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Topic: Acid, freak, wyrd folk and related
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Acid, freak, wyrd folk and related
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 12:37
Acid folk and various folk music styles have long been a big part of my musical diet. What are some of your favourites? Feel free to mention anything folky that you like, but I'm hoping to be turned on to some lesser-known stuff.

In PA, I love Comus, Perry Leopold, Spirogra, Catherine Ribeiro + 2 Bis, Vashti Bunyan, Linda Perhacs, Jan Dukes de Grey, Tim Buckley, The Incredible String Band, Pearls Before Swine, The Pentangle, Trees, Forest, I like, but don't love Broselmaschine, and like various music in Indo Prog/ Raga Rock (and psych) that would also count such as Malachi's Holy Music and Third Ear Band. Also Syd Barrett for his psych folk and It's a Beautiful Day.... And Griffin was one of my early musical loves (I think the first album has music that fits such an aesthetic well). You get the idea.

Outside of music in PA, one of my very favourite albums is The Wicker Man soundtrack. I love Exuma and Mark Fry's Dreaming with Alice I like a lot, especially for the song The Witch. I like Hölderlins Traum. And I like Matt Berry's folky music a lot. Charlie Cawood has some nice modern folky music. Lots of stuff I can't remember. I also found myself liking NeoFolk, but not its ideological associations. I also like fairly mainstream folk such as Joan Baez.



So what do you like, and while I've covered quite a bit of ground and perhaps should have tried to be more narrow-focused, what would you recommend for someone into such music?


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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 13:35
Never was a huge acid/psych folk fan, I'm more of the conventional type: Harmonium, Strawbs, Harper, Tull, Steeleye.

Barrett or Spirogyra are always good listens every now and then, par contre.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 13:45
^ I like those ones I hadn't mentioned too, especially Roy Harper's Stormcock.

{And I don't feel like editing my OP, but I meant to say Gryphon (as in the Midnight Mushrumps one). Think I mixed it up in my head with a psych band called Griffin (and there's a heavy metal one of the same name)}

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 14:17
Medieval/Baroque is really my kind of stuff (Gryphon, Renbourn, Malicorne, Motis)


Have you heard 'Conventum' from Québec, Logan?

Style: Hilarious-Folk

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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 14:53
Comus.. goes without saying.

Mr Fox, Mellow Candle, Lal and Mike Waterson ('Bright Phoebus') come rapidly to mind; Its not Acid or Wyrd but Ashley Hutchings' 'Morris On' lps, the Albion country band, Steeleye Span's 'Hark the village waites' and of course Fairport's 'Liege & Lief'

Of a more contemporary nature, Circulus (Michael Tyack) are pretty zany!


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 15:29
I have a plan to get more familiar with Roy Harper.

I am grown up with Cat Steves whom have some folk influence, Tillerman and Teaser are folk rock masterpieces

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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 15:55
For a modern band you could check out The Hare and The Moon:





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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 15:58
^ Edit, thanks. I was originally planning to ask for some modern recommendations since I don't know that large an amount of modern folk stuff. That said, I have come across some Hare and the Moon before (in youtube searches), listening now and enjoying it.

Yep, love Conventum, Barbu. Malicorne is another I like. I also like the Medieval/Baroque kind of stuff, and was into those and Gryphon before I got into the acid folk. In high school, my Creative Writing/ English teacher kept a record collection, and I regularly put on Gryphon. Maybe that's why he gave me A pluses in his classes.

As for some others mentioned that I hadn't mentioned in my first post, I'm also big on Mellow Candle, and I really like Cat Stevens Harold and Maude soundtrack (but then I love the film). "Trouble" from it, which is on the album Mona Bone Jakon, is one of my all-time favourite songs, partially because I found it so poignantly used in the film..

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 16:03


"I was never really a bone fide member of the folk scene," says Harper, whose 1960s and 1970s albums, including Stormcock, Sophisticated Beggar and Flat Baroque and Berserk are now considered classics -- and precursors to today's alternative folk genre. "I was too much of a modernist, really. Just too modern for what was going on in the folk clubs. I wanted to modernize music, but more than that to completely modernize people's attitudes towards life in general. I was involved in trying to bring meat to the folk music, which is a big mistake anyway." Roy Harper

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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 16:08
This may be on the twee side for you, but I also quite like The Moon and The Nightspirit from Hungary:



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 16:36
Not too twee for me, though I don't really like it TBH. For a "Moon", I like TwinSisterMoon:



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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: January 03 2018 at 16:38


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 04 2018 at 11:23
^ That's a good song. I had really liked Jefferson Airplane, and this Kantner album with Grace Slick, David Crosby, Graham Nash, and Jerry Garcia album is something of an ending of an era album. Must say, I hadn't heard any of this album in years.

I hope discussion doesn't die out quickly in this thread. Condor, for instance, is very good at asking questions that make threads take off with spirited discussion, but I'm not so adept at setting things off.

I'd like to turn this into a general folk appreciation thread where hopefully many people can banter and discover music that might appeal to their tastes. Maybe I should rename the topic. I'll do a disco one, that might lead to some spirited debate -- although I much prefer dialectic.

I'll do a clip of one of my favourite folk songs (so simple and beautiful to me):



And a different version by Bunyan:



I should keep the embeds down despite my desires since that can cause some people problems accessing the topic.

Cosmic: by the way, I checked out Michael Tyack and enjoyed the music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asaY5Lx0eQk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asaY5Lx0eQk Circulus is wonderful -- I'm on youtube autoplay (fun way to listen to music, I find).



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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 04 2018 at 11:52
Nice idea for a thread Greg. Also happens to be a style of music I highly appreciate.

One of the first albums I thought of was Povl Dissing's Nøgne Øjne. I am not sure whether one needs to be Danish in order to appreciate Dissing's vocals, but it seems to help. The folks who reviewed Burning Red Ivanhoe's 6 Elefantskovcikadeviser (their best album imo and at times does show a lot of the attributes connected to the freak/psych folk scene) certainly didn't care for dear ol Povl. Personally I think he is the danish embodiement of freak folk...often suggested entirely through his mad vocals. I think they are rather beautiful myself.

Also Exuma's selftitled is another winner...even if it does sound like it was recorded inside a tinfoil skip. Caribbean coconut oil smooth like a cactus - or maybe chillax folk cacophony fits better? Brilliant little album though.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 04 2018 at 12:33
Thanks, David. I love that Exuma album, and I like the second a lot too. It's one that everybody into freak folk, and into certainly into Caribbean junkanoo freak folk, should know. ;) One might glibly, and not I'd say accurately, describe Exuma as Comus on coconuts (I've heard that rancid coconuts can cause visions).

My memory is not what it once was, but I seem to recall you mentioning Povl Dissing before. I listened to a track off the album you mentioned on youtube and liked it. I can hear where the vocals in part might be an acquired taste to some, but I acquired the requisite tastes long ago (even if some think my tastes show a lack of taste).

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 04 2018 at 14:59
Tyranosaurus Rex is also a important act in the development of folk. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tU9AbpBc2fA" rel="nofollow - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tU9AbpBc2fA

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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: January 04 2018 at 15:18
A couple of years ago I saw a duo called 'Arch Garrison' in a very small gig; they are Craig Fortnam and James Larcombe both who play in North sea radio orchestra. It wasn't folk exactly but had a very English acoustic vibe with songs about Roman roads, Hill forts and ancient straight tracks across the chalk hills of southern England.

Talking of 'old straight tracks', the Ex Lindisfarne members who formed a band of that name, I fully recommend their first lp..

Not really folk but very folk influenced, 'Sume' from Greenland; their first lp 'Sumut' was released about 73 predominantly Inuit and sung in Greenlandic and definitely worth a listen.


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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: January 08 2018 at 13:55
For some lesser-known but great music check out Faun Fables, Carol of Harvest, Rabbit Rabbit.  

Two of my favorite obscure acid folk albums are both self-titled, Justine who were made up of Americans and Brits, and String Cheese which had connections to It's a Beautiful Day. 

And while I wouldn't consider them acid, freak or wyrd Errobi's 'Ametsaren Bidea' is a pretty killer Basque folk album with some funky sounds.



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 18:40
I knew Carol of Harvest; like it.

Right now I'm on a major Robbie Basho kick.

https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/robbie_basho" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/robbie_basho

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 20:00
Although i consider myself a metalhead, i am quite the folk adventurist as well. Most of the bands you cite as your favorites are high in my world as well. A recent interest in the indo-raga category here has expanded that world exponentially. In regard to the TwinSisterMoon suggested, they are a relativce of Natural Snow Buildings which i recently suggested to prog folk but actually feel they are more post-rock.

Outside of what has already been suggested, i'm a huge Buffy Saint-Marie fan. She was wyrd when Simon & Garfunkel were hip. Her lyrical screams of pain affect me deeply every time i dare play her albums. 

I find the French band Ripaille's "La Vielle Que L'on Brûla" to be somewhat freaky folky as well although it is uneven, it still has an overall vibe.

Personally i feel nobody did it better than Comus on "First Utterance." It simply doesn't get any better for freak folk. That was downloaded from the god-force, whatever that may be.

Exuma's first album is really pretty excellent as well.

If you extend the "folk" term globally then there are many excellent folk musicians. Some of my favorite comes from the Slavic countiries with Gypsy influence but i'm game for any style really no matter where. It's just that most of the time it's not weird enough for me to be OMG excellent! 

A quick question. Why did Catherine Ribeiro move to psychedelic rock from prog folk? I think she belongs where she was myself.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 20:32
I liked Ripaille a lot -- haven't heard that album in quite a few years.

As for Catherine Ribeiro, I classify the music as Progressive Acid Folk (aka Psyche Folk) so would have it in Folk, but I guess, say, Paix is more rock then her earlier ones (but that is still folky, so I don't know). I do not know the later albums. I don't remember the cases now, but there has been more than one Acid Folk act in Psyche that I would sooner have put in Folk as a Progressive Acid Folk act but was placed in Psych as I recall. Don't know why the move was made.

Such a shame we don't have multi-genre album tagging.

Edit: By the way, one of my favourites.



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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 20:53
Many of my favorites have already been mentioned ......but for moody atmospheric psychy folk try  ''Espers'.
I think someone mentioned 'Circulus' also.



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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 21:00
Moonkyte....Count Me Out....1971...not sure why this isn't on PA..... proggy psych folk imho.....and a nice fun album on several levels.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8a8cutYP7foOZw-ts7-F07ZOvQdz7weH


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 21:04
One of my favorite discovers of the last few years has been the Polish band ATMAN.

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 21:09
Erica Pomerance's "You Used To Think" is a pretty cool early freaky folky album as well. Sitting somewhere between Jefferson Airplane and Linda Perhacs. Not as freaky as i'd like but pretty cool for its time :)




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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 21:09
Fresh Maggots .....excellent album.
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2558


Fuchsia......another great one from 1971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt6vYF4ZxZQ


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 10 2018 at 21:17
Same for Nico's "The Marble Index"




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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 11 2018 at 09:53
I will check out all of those mentioned: that Erica is quite something and I;m loving that Nico album. The only Nico one I have is The Velvet Underground & Nico. Some like Fuschia and Fresh Maggots I've heard music from before but don't yet own album by. Awesome suggestions.

I'm going to try to remember the name of a Jesus freak folk album.

Another early one that I really like (Mary-Anne):



And a pleasant modern one by The Dry Spells: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S3xE9dJbos" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S3xE9dJbos

Edit: Changed my Dry Spells one to a url, since I don't find it as transcendent or highlight-worthy as the Mary-Anne one, which I would rather be the focus of my picks for this post.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 11 2018 at 10:46
One of my favorite wyrd psych folk things....Espers doing Flaming Telepaths by BOC.....10 min long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhsh3Xql1i4




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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 11 2018 at 10:47


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 11 2018 at 11:57
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Neutral Milk Hotel....




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Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: February 11 2018 at 15:20
Current 93.

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 13 2018 at 14:07
Buffy Saint-Marie's Illuminations was some really good experimental folk for its day. Maybe not psychedelic enough, it certainly was a pioneering album in mixing electronica to folk




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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 13 2018 at 14:25
More good suggestions.

Noticed that I neglected to mention one of my particular favourites in my OP (was recommended to me at this site quite a few years ago) -- Extradition's Hush.



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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 13 2018 at 16:56
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I find the French band Ripaille's "La Vielle Que L'on Brûla" to be somewhat freaky folky as well although it is uneven, it still has an overall vibe.

This was completely new to me but I just checked it out on Youtube after seeing your review - I like it quite a bit. Thanks for the tip.

Staying in France, but with a Breton folk-rock vibe, I'm also a fan of the Dan ar Braz album Douar Nevez. Another record with a consistent vibe.


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Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: February 13 2018 at 20:11
Secret Path by Gord Downie. No really! Sort of... ambient folk? I'm having trouble explaining why I recommend it but I do recommend it. Also thankful I don't have to explain who he is.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 14 2018 at 07:00
Originally posted by Junges Junges wrote:

Current 93.

Yes, I was about to mention David Tibet and cohorts. Thunder Perfect Mind fits this thread like the proverbial glove.

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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: February 15 2018 at 03:24
In the last year or so I have really got into Welsh band from the 90s-early 2000s, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.

They put out 9 albums from 1992-2003 and then disbanded. Extremely eclectic; very folk acid tinged at times with a pop sensibility. But they were very , very eclectic...sort of Syd Barrett type acid-freak but then again not...it's hard to explain!

Euros Childs was their front man and IMHO is a genius. I am slowing buying his solo output...he's extremely good IMHO. But I love Gorky's and Childs' folk leaning tracks.....Childs is a big Richard Thompson appreciator. So you can definitely get RT's vibe in certain songs especially his solo stuff. But it's so varied it's mind boggling. Gorky's and Childs are both worth a listen.

Here's 2 from Gorky's and one from Childs. The first, Lladd Eich Gwraig, sung in Welsh is from 1992, the next Meirion Wyllt, which is mainly an instrumental from 1997 and the last by Childs, Farm-Hand Murder is from 2008. Have a listen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNQVllzbWGQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNQVllzbWGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l0_6YP0ysA&t=39s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l0_6YP0ysA&t=39s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BceFFb2abGs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BceFFb2abGs





Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: February 15 2018 at 13:51
^ Really like Gorky's; got hear of them through Super Furry Animals, Gorwel Owen who produced and played keyboards on some the early SFA stuff also worked with GZM. I saw them at a tiny free festival in mid Wales in 1996 and they were great, a little shambolic in places but very charming and very influenced by Kevin Ayres!

Gruff Rhys' solo lps are very much in a similar vein, particularly 'Candylion'.. also worth watching are the documentary films by Gruff Rhys 'Separado' and 'American interior'. 

The two compilation lps 'Welsh Rarebit vols 1 & 2' which are compilations of Welsh language psych, folk and proto-prog from the Welsh 1970 label 'Sain' partly curated by Gruff Rhys.. which then brings me to Meic Stevens, the 'Welsh Bob Dylan' who was a good mate of Syd Barrett..


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Posted By: doompaul
Date Posted: February 15 2018 at 15:30
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by Junges Junges wrote:

Current 93.

Yes, I was about to mention David Tibet and cohorts. Thunder Perfect Mind fits this thread like the proverbial glove.
I just turned on to them. Fantastic stuff.


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 16:40
I've been meaning to drop this on the thread for a while:






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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 22:42
From here mentioned I really like Comus, Pearls Before Swine, Incredible String Band, Tim Buckley and Roy Harper. Have to mention here UK Kaleidoscope, although it might be more fairytale psych pop, really great anyway. Also Finnish band Pihasoittajat has made really great album "Kontaten Kotia" which has also some prog mystic sounds.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 23 2018 at 02:28
Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

For some lesser-known but great music check out Faun Fables, Carol of Harvest, Rabbit Rabbit.  

Two of my favorite obscure acid folk albums are both self-titled, Justine who were made up of Americans and Brits, and String Cheese which had connections to It's a Beautiful Day. 

And while I wouldn't consider them acid, freak or wyrd Errobi's 'Ametsaren Bidea' is a pretty killer Basque folk album with some funky sounds.



Wheeeewwwww... thanks for saving our collective arses Clem, for neither Ken and I had spotted this thread...EmbarrassedOuchLOL

well, I guess we educated them enough that such a thread can happen without us, now Approve

I'll counter Clem's Justine with another UK/US duo called Subway


Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

From here mentioned I really like Comus, Pearls Before Swine, Incredible String Band, Tim Buckley and Roy Harper.


Just so you know, Tom Rapp : RIP three weeks ago Cry

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In terms of modern acid/psych/prog folk(-rock) (the wave that was called Wyrd folk), I can suggest the first two albums of PG Six (PG is for Pat Gubler), the whole of Espers (prefer Espers I and II, though) and a couple of early Tunng. I think only the latter is still active/touring as an act, though (fun concerts too). The Espers members are involved in their solo projects.





Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 07:01
Another one i really love that isn't on PA is Grizzly Bear. It was an acquired taste but they have some really bizarre compisitional styles.

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Posted By: doompaul
Date Posted: April 08 2018 at 15:56
wow. Thanks for this thread. I have a lot to catch up on. The only Acid Folk I really know is Comus and I love them. Looking forward to checking out some others listed here.


Posted By: ALotOfBottle
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 01:08
Have to recommend the self-titled EP by Księżyc - it's a Polish freak-folk cult classic. 




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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 01:57
Originally posted by ALotOfBottle ALotOfBottle wrote:

Have to recommend the self-titled EP by Księżyc - it's a Polish freak-folk cult classic. 



A fantastic album (which has had a fairly recent CD reissue). A reformed Księżyc put out a second album, Rabbit Eclipse, in 2015 that is just as good IMO.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 08:30
Been listening to this a lot lately.....very atmospheric.....well known here I'm sure.






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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 08:32
Thanks for posting the Ksiezyc......new for me and definitely strange and wonderful wyrd folk.

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 13 2018 at 20:59
Here's another an RYM buddy turned me onto.

Bruce Palmer of Buffalo Springfield released this one psychedelic folk ablum in 1971. Pretty cool!




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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 07:19
Thanks for posting that Palmer lp.....never knew it existed and I'm a fan of Buffalo Springfield and their offshoots.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 07:24
didn't either Doc..  and yeah huge fan of Stills, to a lesser extent Young, even am of  Ritchies and Messiana's later stuff.. but lost Palmer and that album. I'll have to take a listen to that clip later.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 07:48
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:



"I was never really a bone fide member of the folk scene," says Harper, whose 1960s and 1970s albums, including Stormcock, Sophisticated Beggar and Flat Baroque and Berserk are now considered classics -- and precursors to today's alternative folk genre. "I was too much of a modernist, really. Just too modern for what was going on in the folk clubs. I wanted to modernize music, but more than that to completely modernize people's attitudes towards life in general. I was involved in trying to bring meat to the folk music, which is a big mistake anyway." Roy Harper

Hi,

To me, this is the biggest issue with some folk clubs around here. It is ALL about kissing as* to a bunch of traditional songs, and you will be damned if you don't have a Farina, or some other oddball song in there. You CAN NOT, in America, create an original song, because no one will listen to it, and will instead go play "Annie got My Gun" ... totally ignoring the work of someone like Roy Harper, and many others along the way.

These days, trying to keep track of some big names in the old days, like Baez, Dylan, and so many others, it's hard to believe that the only one not doing a traditional song is actually Bob Dylan, and he was deep fried for taking things electric, which is where it went, but in a club or two around here or up and down the coast, it is ELECTRIC, but it is not loud ... it has to be soft, so it stays with the theme/idea of "FOLK". But here, the applause is only for a "known" song ... so you trying to bring something else to the table, you will be lucky to have your groupie applauding your effort and everyone else leaving the room!

It is just a sad thing to see, how commercialized and totally brainwashed by the media so many of these clubs are, and I get scared every time I visit many of these clubs around here. And FOLK music is not the only one with the problem ... rock'n'roll's thing is even worse!


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 08:17
Not as weird as other stuff i've posted but FAUN FABLES has had some really good stuff. Albums are usually uneven but great tracks contained. Generally they utillize catchy folk songs with touches of psychedelia. They are on PA




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Posted By: mahargznaj
Date Posted: August 11 2018 at 14:17
I'm trying to find an audience for an album I recently finished. A ProgArchives member suggested in another forum that it belongs to the neo-folk/wyrd folk genre. Maybe some of you would like to give it a listen. You might hear influences coming from Leonard Cohen, Peter Hammill, A Silver Mount Zion, among others. I hope you like it!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 14 2018 at 09:31
^ Nice music -- I'd just call it folk. Not sure why it's being pigeonholed as of the Neofolk or Wyrd Folk genres (that said, I haven't listened to the whole thing yet).

I've been listening to These Trails quite a bit of late:





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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 14 2018 at 11:17
A favourite of mine.

Nick Drake's "Riverman":





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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 14 2018 at 11:58
Been meaning to post here several times but every time I try my head either explodes with too much at once... or its just empty. Ok I love love











Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: August 14 2018 at 12:15
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

A favourite of mine.

Nick Drake's "Riverman":



A perfect song IMO. The combination of Drake's guitar and voice, the brilliant Robert Kirby string arrangement and that unfathomable lyric...true greatness.

I was pretty much obsessed with Nick Drake for a couple of years in my late teens.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 14 2018 at 12:26
Starts a little amateurish but charming I think but the full album is a dreamlike fairytale-trip


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 15 2018 at 08:01
^ I had chance, Saperlipopette!,to listen to all of those, at least in part, and lovely and charming music.

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

A favourite of mine.

Nick Drake's "Riverman":



A perfect song IMO. The combination of Drake's guitar and voice, the brilliant Robert Kirby string arrangement and that unfathomable lyric...true greatness.

I was pretty much obsessed with Nick Drake for a couple of years in my late teens.


River Man is sublime. I so wish things had turned out differently for him. His life was far too short. His struggle is one that I can relate to, and that makes his music all the more meaningful to me.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 15 2018 at 11:26
^ I'm also a big fan of Drake........never considered him wyrd or strange  folk  but he was one of the best at doing those subtle folk rock things.
Haunting stuff.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 16 2018 at 15:08
I was thinking that "River Man" would be "related" enough for this topic as the "chamber folk" qualities would be likely to appeal to quite a few who are into various Acid Folk acts (such as Perry Leopold, Spirogyra, the also haunting Comus' The Herald, Linda Perhacs etc.), as well as to a wider folk music audience.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 13:11
I know I did another folk thread focusing on fragile, melancholic, gentle suggestions (some may remember it ;) ) and one will see some overlap with this topic, but I wanted to revive this topic to get more into the discussion of psych folk, freak, wyrd folk and related music that you may feel not intrinsically to be any of those, but you think would be likely to appeal to people into such music.

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 17:10
It doesn't get any pscyhier, freakiery or wyrder folk than COMUS' First Utterance. 




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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 17:31
One of the least known that I know are the great original folk/electronic duo Solarference from Bristol that should have far more fans.



Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 17:59
I like a fair amount of leftfield folk, including a lot of names in this thread, but here are a few more recent ones I haven't seen mentioned:

Richard Dawson immediately comes to mind as a successor of Comus, Spirogyra, Incredible String Band, with his album Peasant incorporating neo-medieval influences to his off-kilter English-traditional-folk-inspired sound:

Kim Myhr is one of my favorite guitarists active. The things he can do with an acoustic guitar boggle my mind. He comes from more of an avant-garde/New Music background, but his music should please many free folk and chamber folk enthusiasts. 

Crescent is most known for their brand of melancholy indie rock and post-rock, but, in 2003, they released By the Roads and the Fields, featuring psychedelic acoustic guitar led songs that fall into a particular twilit crevice in the mind that few pieces of music occupy. Lots of influence from Zen in the lyrics, it seems:

Gjallarhorn is traditional Nordic Folk with a... digeridoo. And sometimes mandolin. Even though it's heavily rooted in Nordic Folk traditions it reaches to other traditions, much like ISB does, and fills a certain pagan folk void that much of the psych stuff doesn't:



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 18:34
I like that Gjallarhorn a lot...Sounds like a nyckelharpa there.  Haven't had a chance to look them up for their instrumentation.  Pretty cool traditional stuff.  There is a big resurgence of interest in Nordic folk music amongst the trad folk of late.  Just looked them up, it's a Hardanger fiddle.  Cool sound.  Almost electric sounding, like a hurdy gurdy sounds almost plugged in.



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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 23:54
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

A favourite of mine.

Nick Drake's "Riverman":



A perfect song IMO. The combination of Drake's guitar and voice, the brilliant Robert Kirby string arrangement and that unfathomable lyric...true greatness.

I was pretty much obsessed with Nick Drake for a couple of years in my late teens.
 

Unlike the other songs on Five Leaves Left, this brilliant string arrangement was not by Robert Kirby, but by Harry Robertson.



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 21 2019 at 06:40
^^^ Tony (Polymorphia), that is an awesome post, thank you so much (beautifully presented). That Richard Dawson can be so off-kilter, and with interesting contrasts, in such a unique and I find truly engaging way. I had caught some music of his before, and I want to get his Peasant album now. I'm now tempted to do a Peasant vs. The Pheasant poll. ;)



I enjoyed all of that very much

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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: February 22 2019 at 18:05
^Thanks, Greg. Was big into stuff like this when I joined the site and my interested in it returned in the past couple of years, so I definitely have more to post. Speaking of:

I mentioned Mount Eerie in the other thread. Phil Elverum has flirted with and gone all the way with, at times, avant-folk and pysch folk both as Mount Eerie and in his former band The Microphones. The album Mount Eerie by the Microphones (confusing, I know) is a good example. He kind of sits between Sufjan Stevens and David Tibet (even having Tibet's darkness and atmosphere at the beginning of this decade with Wind's Poem, Ocean's Roar, and Clear Moon).

Robbie Basho is known most as John Fahey's Hindustani-influenced American Primitivist compadre, but imo he fits in like a glove here. Also, his guitar work is to die for. 

James Blakeshaw, of course, deserves a mention, being heavily influenced by Basho and also being on Current 93 records.

And to end with another traditional-not-traditional rec, you have Kíla, a Celtic folk band from Ireland who uses more progressive structures and draws from other traditional folk musics aside from Celtic and is one of the few folk bands I've heard rival Comus in intensity. The title track of Luna Park is one of my favorite tracks period. 




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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 22 2019 at 18:30
More listening for the growing lists....Am familiar with Robbie Basho, but many of these look intriguing!



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 23 2019 at 05:59
I know Robbie Basho very well, and very worth mentioning (I mentioned him briefly in the thread before, but I had no links to his music) (I'd known music of his for longer, but I was on a big Basho kick about a year ago). Of the others, I really like Cross.

Some of these might have been mentioned already, I'm just waking up.

A favourite of mine (terry Callier's Occasional Rain from 1972):



Akron - Family



Cul de Sac “Portland Cement Factory at Monolith, California”





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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 25 2019 at 04:27
Admirals Hard
Arch Garrison
Stars in Battledress
The Unthanks
Circulus
Kate Rusby
Lady Maisery


The only old name I will mention is that of the sadly now largely forgotten  Anne Briggs. For some, I need say no more. For others, Google and Spotify. The purest voice you will ever hear, still gives me goosebumps.  She started singing and gigging as a teen in the late 50s. She recorded a total of about 30 songs. But she came to hate recording and hated the sound of her own voice. Then in 1971 aged only 27 she stopped and kind of became a recluse. She was the influence for so many other female folk singers back in the day.





Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: February 25 2019 at 14:40
Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Admirals Hard
Arch Garrison
Stars in Battledress
The Unthanks
Circulus
Kate Rusby
Lady Maisery


The only old name I will mention is that of the sadly now largely forgotten  Anne Briggs. For some, I need say no more. For others, Google and Spotify. The purest voice you will ever hear, still gives me goosebumps.  She started singing and gigging as a teen in the late 50s. She recorded a total of about 30 songs. But she came to hate recording and hated the sound of her own voice. Then in 1971 aged only 27 she stopped and kind of became a recluse. She was the influence for so many other female folk singers back in the day.





Apparently Anne Briggs is the basis for the Richard Thompson song Beeswing below..beautiful track one of RT's best





Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 25 2019 at 14:46
And coincidentally that is the only RT album I own.  


Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 13:40
I know Akron/Family. Been meaning to revisit them. That Fahey tribute album is one I should check out. I have long known and loved the Sujfan track on there. 

Last year, David Garland released a 4-hour electroacoustic chamber folk mammoth Verdancy. It strikes me as sort of a folk version of Jim O'Rourke's Eureka. It can be a bit sweet at times, but there's not a moment on the record that isn't crafted with care, and the moments that venture into more experimental territory are exhilerating. I'm mainly posting "Periodicity" for length's sake, but the best tracks are the lengthier ones which make use of his "modified guitar" in which "electronics... provoke the vibration of wire and wood," producing resonant tones and feedback which give his performances a droning ambient feel. 

Of course, you have Natural Snow Buildings and TwinSisterMoon (a member of NSB) who create a special kind of lo-fi drone avant-folk. I prefer TwinSisterMoon's solo work, so I will post this song from The Hollowed Mountain: 

Then there's Spires That in The Sunset Rise, who get even stranger than NSB, evoking some of the "witchiness" 

You also have Greg Malcolm and his album Some Other Time, full of highly experimental semi-improvisatory drone folk:



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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: May 08 2019 at 18:27
Has Changes been mentioned yet? Predecessor to neofolk (first album was released in the 90s, but recorded in the late 60s/70s)

And then there's this gem:

People interested in this category should check out this RYM list:
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 16 2019 at 12:59
^^ I have TwinSisterMoon's The Hollow Mountain, like it very much. Love "Periodicity", the Greg Malcollm, and well, all great, enjoyable for me stuff you've mentioned.

And thanks for the RYM "folk horror in music" list. That should be a good resource. I'm a big fan of folk horror film and TV (especially The Wicker Man in film and Children of the Stones in TV), and had made a long poll some months back which took me a long time to compile which I lost to Captcha (neglected to save my work properly).

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 17 2019 at 06:19
Meg Baird:



More Buffy Sainte-Marie:



Oh, and also off Buffy Sainte-Marie's 1967 album Fire & Fleet & Candlelight, I want to mention "Reynardine - A Vampire Legend" from the original Buffy the Vampire Slayer, if only to make such a poor joke.



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 09 2019 at 07:25
Just been listening to Paul Roland & The Hellfire Club's album A Cabinet of Curiosities album again, which is not to confused with the Cabinet of Natural Curosities posted a few posts up:


And while I mentioned Exuma in my first post, don't think I mentioned Dr. John, the Night Tripper's Gris-Gris (maybe someone did); it has freak folk qualities.

Did a poll comparing these two acts and used these samples some time back, but it wasn't considered interesting enough to get responses, still mention them here.






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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 09 2019 at 09:46
This is my kind of music, as you probably guessed from my Prog-Folk poll. Smile
 
I don't think I've heard anyone mention Loudest Whisper so far - they were a rare Prog-Folk/Psych-Folk band from Ireland. Their LP "The Children of Lir" only had 500 pressings and the album was only sold in Ireland, although I was lucky enough to buy it on CD from Amazon. This is the opening track from the album...
 


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 09 2019 at 10:19
As you're Psychedelic Paul, your folk poll seemed surprisingly light on the psych to me to be honest (course a lot of great acid pysch is not really "prog" per se). Anyway, love that Loudest Whisper. I had heard it before, but not for quite a long time. Thanks.

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 09 2019 at 10:51
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

As you're Psychedelic Paul, your folk poll seemed surprisingly light on the psych to me to be honest (course a lot of great acid pysch is not really "prog" per se). Anyway, love that Loudest Whisper. I had heard it before, but not for quite a long time. Thanks.
 
Not to worry, it's early days yet - I have a new Folk poll coming up soon which WILL feature lots of Acid/Psych-Folk artists, including many of those "wyrd" and wonderful artists you mentioned in my Prog-Folk thread. Smile
 
I never get tired of listening to that amazing Loudest Whisper album. It's just one of the many hidden treasures of YouTube where I never would have discovered that rare and long-lost album without the help of the Internet.
 
One of the rarest Folk albums of all time is Susan Christie's "Paint a Lady" album from 1970. There were only three pressings of the album ever made!
 
 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 09 2019 at 12:27
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



I'd like to turn this into a general folk appreciation thread where hopefully many people can banter and discover music that might appeal to their tastes. Maybe I should rename the topic. I'll do a disco one, that might lead to some spirited debate -- although I much prefer dialectic.


I'm looking forward to your Disco topic. Thumbs Up


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 09 2019 at 18:49
There's a lot of great psych folk hidden under the guise of Krautrock as well. This is just one such case that may not technically be completely folk but has a lot of it




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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 09 2019 at 21:49
I know and like that Broselmaschine, good one.

Plenty of good psych folk in Krautrock and lots I love in Indo-Prog/ Raga Rock.

Mentioned him already, but Sergius Golowin, listed in Krautrock, is a particular favourite. Emtidi's Saat is one of my fave FolKraut (Folk Kraut) ones -- (listed in folk here). I like Emma Myldenberger's Tour de France (listed in Krautrock here).











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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 09 2019 at 21:59
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



I'd like to turn this into a general folk appreciation thread where hopefully many people can banter and discover music that might appeal to their tastes. Maybe I should rename the topic. I'll do a disco one, that might lead to some spirited debate -- although I much prefer dialectic.



I'm looking forward to your Disco topic. Thumbs Up


I did make a "The Disco Appreciation Thread!!!"
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=112593" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=112593

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 10 2019 at 01:18
[QUOTE=Logan]

I did make a "The Disco Appreciation Thread!!!"
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=112593%5b/QUOTE" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=112593[/QUOTE ]
 
Thanks for the link. When you mentioned Disco,  Giorgio Moroder and Donna Summer's "I Feel Love" was the first song that came to mind, and purely by coincidence, I noticed you mentioned Giorgio Moroder in the first line of your thread. Smile
 



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