Phil Collins solo material

Tomorrow Never Knows (a Beatles cover)

I Don't Care Anymore

Do You Know, Do You Care?

Thru These Walls

Inside Out

Colours

I Wish It Would Rain Down (with Clapton)

It always seemed like he needed more chords or the Tony Banks treatment or something. But I think he intentionally wanted them simple. For the kind of drummer he was, I'm surprised he didn't showcase his skills in that department much in his solo stuff, especially with the over-usage of drum machines. Was he really that busy that he couldn't lay down a decent drum track? It also seemed he was more interested in personal stuff, ranging from sappy, syrupy things to songs about his divorces.

For what it's worth, Banks' and Rutherford's non-Genesis 1980s stuff are just as flawed. They both had OK debut solo albums. Maybe Phil should have made one back in the 1970s?

Maybe because the Beatles were like that from the beginning. They never pretended to be anything else. Even when they got experimental, it was still poppy. With Phil, he started out as prog, sprinkled in some jazz, and then went full on pop. It smells of sellout, depending of who you ask.

Now, does that mean that the music sucks? Was he really a sellout? That's a matter of opinion.

I cut my teeth on Abacab and later Genesis so I don't get all indignant about Genesis no longer being hardcore prog after about 1980. However, Phil's solo stuff, especially what came later is not at all to my tastes. Again, it shocks me that a guy who could be in Genesis in the 70s and Brand X could write pop tripe like Against All Odds and Sussudio 

At the core all these 60-70s musicians are pop music lovers, growing up listening to R&B, soul and American pop as well as local pop music. Prog was experimental for them, but it did not pay......Remember even in the mid 70's when Genesis was very popular, their last scheduled Lamb live show was cancelled due to no ticket sales. This was to be the last show with Gabriel, and it did not happen. It was then they realized the last show had already happened with Gabriel, so it was kinda like a dry hump.....