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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2017 at 11:19
I get somewhat depressed when I am suddenly reminded of a case of suffering in myself or another living thing, that is unable to be averted or fixed. Suffering sucks, but I guess we learn through pain, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2017 at 11:29
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

that Mental Health Hotline video

Not as funny as the dude who doesn't eat during the week but gain 200 pounds on Sundays but it was indeed excellent, Greg. I suspect many fellows here have a great sense of humour but sadly not a lot shows it. Why? I have a theory about it but I think it's better I keep this to myself.

Originally posted by HemispheresOfXanadu HemispheresOfXanadu wrote:

Totally out of the blue @Logan but whenever I see a post by you I read the whole thing. I don't often reply because frankly to sound half as knowledgeable as you I'd have to spend an hour researching whatever the subject might be. Greatly enjoy learning from your posts. Also us Canucks have to stick together (supposedly). =)

The Frog agrees...and I'll add that The Logan Man is surely one of most appreciated dude around, always interesting and witty.

Edited by Barbu - September 15 2017 at 11:57
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2017 at 13:57
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The Frog agrees...and I'll add that The Logan Man is surely one of most appreciated dude around, always interesting and witty. [/QUOTE]

ClapThumbs Up The Devon tractor driver agrees also!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2017 at 15:43
Thanks guys, it's really appreciated. And yes, Barbu, The Butterfield Diet one is funny. That's from a TV show call the Peter Serafinowicz Show... More recently he's made something of a name for himself as Sassy Trump, Sophisticated Trump, Racist Trump, Liberace Trump, Bitchy trump, Gay Trump and Compassionate Trump. And I was surprised in a Matt Berry song when I first heard Paul McCartney singing (but it was Peter S.). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E7r7vlJ_tU

"...Set a good example to us human beings
And stop behaving like Japanese
There are lots of apples on the trees
There are many fishes in the seas..."


Originally posted by mechanicalflattery mechanicalflattery wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

 it also depresses me that nobody found that Mental Health Hotline video funny, or commented on it. That which we find funny is that which we tend to identify with. As I always tell myself, try to live without expectations of others, but have expectations for oneself.


I actually found that video hysterical; ended up watching it three or four times. The "depressive" bit got me each time. There's never a guarantee of what kind of impact we've made. Sometimes I wish a given post of mine (or an action made in real life, for that matter) had garnered more of a reaction, but there's no telling the unseen consequences. Personally, I worry too much about whether a given post of mine will be "edifying" enough, and I delete one or two drafted posts for every time I actually comment on here. Perhaps sometimes it's acceptable to merely say, "nice job" or "neat video". That'd probably help me out in personal conversations as well, I've always been horrible at small talk, but of course it's hard to graduate to "real" conversations without palavering a little beforehand. 

I see what you mean about the paradox of expecting warmth without exhibiting it firsthand. Most of my affection or appreciation for others goes unexpressed, or layered behind sardonic, narcissistic jokes. Lately, I've made an effort to nod or wave to acquantances, to offer at least the slightest hint of recognition and respect. So it it makes any difference, I frequently gain a great deal from your posts *collapses*

Well I wrote other, more revealing things, before removing them. So that wraps up this edition of Therapy: The Progarchives Approach. Thanks for joing us, folks!


I'm not good at small talk either, and I know that I don't show as much appreciation as I think I should -- especially to my kids. I'm very grateful for all the things I have, and shouldn't need to grasp for more.

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

I get somewhat depressed when I am suddenly reminded of a case of suffering in myself or another living thing, that is unable to be averted or fixed. Suffering sucks, but I guess we learn through pain, though.


That which doesn't kill us makes us stronger, or leaves us hopelessly crippled.

Going Buddhist:

“When we direct our attention toward our suffering, we see our potential for happiness. We see the nature of suffering and the way out. That is why the Buddha called suffering a holy truth. When we use the word “suffering” in Buddhism, we mean the kind of suffering that can show us the way out.”
― Thich Nhat Hanh, The Heart of the Buddha's Teaching

Edited by Logan - September 15 2017 at 15:45
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2017 at 03:38
^Happiness can have a different meaning for another individual , and imply completely diverse ways of pursuing it. I personally reckon that there couldn't be nothing better or greater than get to make other people happy.

The overwhelming amount of information on a daily basis restrains people from rewinding the news record archives to refresh their memories...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2017 at 04:37
Posting something quickly without thinking it through and offending someone. Unhappy

Edited by SteveG - September 16 2017 at 04:38
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2017 at 08:35
Originally posted by Tillerman88 Tillerman88 wrote:

^Happiness can have a different meaning for another individual , and imply completely diverse ways of pursuing it. I personally reckon that there couldn't be nothing better or greater than get to make other people happy.



Yes, I agree with that. Being unselfish, giving and kind goes a long way towards happiness, and such people often lead longer and happier lives (read numerous studies on this). I'm not good at it in practice as I'm something of a lazy selfish prick. I think a balance of introspection (inner directed observation) and a looking outwards care/ thoughtfulness for others would work best for me. I believe that my own depression, and social anxiety certainly, has been symptomatic of too much selfishness (worrying more about myself and others perception of me than acting to help others and thinking about them).

On a tangential note, influenced in part by psychologist Paul Bloom, I favour rational compassion to certain types of empathy. I am an empathetic individual, and empathy can be great and is useful, but feeling other people's pain overmuch, or I should say one's perception of that person's pain as it's a type of self-identification, can stop one from helping others as it can become overwhelming and burn one out. Peter Singer is very interesting when it comes to effective altruism, and if you don't know him, I think you'd find him interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2017 at 08:36
what makes me depressed...  hmmmm...

I've come to terms with my past and the things I've done so that doesn't really do it anymore..

so it is isn't the past.... could it be the future?  Nah..  I plan to be dead well before I find myself pissing and drooling on myself while min wage morons are smoking dope instead of cleaning my up or generally caring for me.. old age and me will hopefully never intersect. The thought of it DOES depress the hell out of me.

so out with past I came to terms with and a future I have no plans to see.. so that would leave the present?

nah... life is too good to ever let the idiocy and ignorance of the present day really get me down.
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