Zeppelin and the Occult

"Modern music is a sick puppy."
Frank Zappa

DallasBryan wrote: Dont have to prove my point, I know that it was done during the late 70s and I assume early 80s when digital recording was in its infancy. There are many other possible occurrances where studio equipment seemed to be affected by electrical power surges or something. Give me a break. THat makes no sense. A power surge. If that were the case they would do a retake not release it.    Iron Butterfly still claims that they were saying In the Garden of Eden, not Inna Godda diva, who knows. True, but that is not what we are talking about.  THat is all frontwards not backwards.  Stairway to Heaven and the Beatles are other instances. Who knows, Planted backmasking is used on Queens - Another One Bites the Dust, and others I think, its been 20 years ago. ELO has backmask on one of their famous radio songs, I can hear it in the intro, it was after Eldorado, which may have backmask in it? Yes El Derado has one in it. Frontwards he says "I'll sail away on a voyage of no return, to see if eternal life is meant to be." Backwards you hear "he's the nasty one, Christ your infernal." Listen to the way he is singing frontwards it's eerie to say the least. Like I said I'll be waiting for you to come up with anything that makes sense frontwards and backwards. I have a feeling I'll be waiting a very long time. I am not talking about 1 word, but a whole phrase. The odds are astronimical that you will be able to come up with anything, and for them to be commentary on each other (like stairway to heaven/satan ELO Eternal Life/Christ infernal) are a zillion to 1. I'll be waiting though. Also I have heard one from Rush during a live (that's right a live) production. The song was Anthem, which is based on Ann Rands work and forwards is pretty much the esccence of what satanism is all about. Guess what books Anton LeVay based the Satanic Bible- Ann Rand and "Might is Right."  Coincendence? you be the judge.     Tangerine Dream - Force Majuere uses backmasking. Forgot what it says. Haven't heard that one. There is alot of hyped crap and artist even used it to play little "see you found the backmask" games. Your still missing the point. Planted backmasking is easy to hear. Slayer used it in Hell awaits, as did Venom and many others. Your completing ignoring just how incredible it is to sing somthing in just the right manner to get a message backwards.   In the 70s music was the main media to get to a young mind and those who were sell outs either found it as a possible tool or a little laugh. But its nice to know in the 21st century you have your PC for this medium, music doesnt need to say sh*t and guess what, it doesnt! or maybe, only Ouija boards, Runes and Tarot cards are allowed to be used in spiritual warfare. Maybe stated in the Treaty of 2537 BC, who knows? I didn't follow any of that. sorry. Belladonna, chickens feet, saffron are OK, but vinyl and plastic are off limits, you cheaters! WAKE UP AMERICA goin down, goin down down

Dont have to prove my point, I know that it was done
during the late 70s and I assume early 80s when
digital recording was in its infancy.
There are many other possible occurrances where
studio equipment seemed to be affected by electrical
power surges or something. Iron Butterfly still claims
that they were saying In the Garden of Eden, not Inna
Godda diva, who knows. Stairway to Heaven and the
Beatles are other instances. Who knows,
Planted backmasking is used on Queens - Another
One Bites the Dust, and others I think, its been 20
years ago. ELO has backmask on one of their
famous radio songs, I can hear it in the intro, it was
after Eldorado, which may have backmask in it?
Tangerine Dream - Force Majuere uses
backmasking. Forgot what it says.
There is alot of hyped crap and artist even used it to
play little "see you found the backmask" games.

In the 70s music was the main media to get to a
young mind and those who were sell outs either
found it as a possible tool or a little laugh.

But its nice to know in the 21st century you have your
PC for this medium, music doesnt need to say sh*t
and guess what, it doesnt!

or maybe, only Ouija boards, Runes and Tarot cards
are allowed to be used in spiritual warfare. Maybe
stated in the Treaty of 2537 BC, who knows?

Belladonna, chickens feet, saffron are OK, but vinyl
and plastic are off limits, you cheaters!

WAKE UP AMERICA
goin down, goin down down


Edited by DallasBryan

Dismissing this extraordinary, accurate backwards message as nothing seems wrong to me, and I'm glad I have some support for that, but the bottom line is that it's a great song. Maybe the message is intentional but only created out of interest i the supernatural, and not because of some sort of Satanic beliefs held by Rob Plant. Still what gets me is the toolshed reference. Damn thought provoking song though.

[QUOTE=goose]Led Zeppelin don't try and make that much sense with the words forwards, so I hardly see them putting in the effort of writing something backwards!

PS I'm fairly certain no two people would be able to hear exactly the same message when it was played backwards.

Ok then why don't we all listen and write down what we heard and compare notes?

 

PPS why does it matter? I doubt our subconcious is going to pick up messages backwards and influence our actions.

Why does it matter? I don't know why does chemistry matter?

PPPS I'm fairly sure at least some of those samples have been edited at least slightly (not the Stairway one, but I've heard similar things on other sites where the message sounds much less clear). The last two I'll believe, because they're not meant to say anything forwards and they're pretty blatant too.)

Not edited when I did it on my own with a record and with the computer.

But then again maybe I am a liar right?

Michael

 

I'll second that!

Come on, now. It would take years of dedication just to speak backwards with any intelligibility. Micheal J. Anderson had to attend a school just to learn to speak his dozen or so lines as the 'man from another place' (or, more familiarly, the 'dancing midget') in "Twin Peaks", and the results are barely satisfactory...they still had to include subtitles. And they were only barely understandable words in one direction, not both!

And does anyone really have any concern or fear of occult power? The only thing that Satanism or Black Magic has ever been responsible for is making people act like fools...and that doesn't require any demonic dark power. I'm as big a fan of spookiness as anyone, but whatever mysterious forces exist out there are not making themselves known via a blues-rock band.

I've also read some sort of Evangelicist thing, saying that Stairway to heaven is a pro God song, and the backwards message is a warning against Satan.

DallasBryan wrote: easily done with digital processing.

Digital processing didn't exist in the 70's. Recordings were done on analog tape.

Reed Lover wrote: mikedevilsfan wrote: DallasBryan wrote: easily done with digital processing. dont go into the REDRUM!!! where The Shining meets Pulp Fiction. see Queen - Flick of the Wrist, Fight From the Inside, lyrics for details. Lets see you do it if its so easy. Ever hear Zep say "natas" in a song- no. I would love to see you sing something that makes sense forwards and backwards. And if you are so smart and its so easy, top Zeppelin and make the forward something anti- biblical like  "there still time to change the road your on" I'll be waitng for this easy task to be done. Michael MDF----- Way to go!

Thanks RL. 

Listen, I respect the fact that some people don't believe in anything spiritual, or evil or holy etc. That is their perogotive. But simply shrugging of something that is quite extroidanary in nature and nearly imposible to do is another thing all together.

And yes I am a Christian for tose who wonder. I can't prove anything about my faith. I am glad that tradiational prog has many ties to  Christianity though. I will be intersted to hear some intentional backwards masking.

Oh an by the way- Zeppelin used analog not digital computers.

Nor did Queen anothor one bites the dust/decide to smoke marajiuana.

Michael

DallasBryan wrote: easily done with digital processing. dont go into the REDRUM!!! where The Shining meets Pulp Fiction. see Queen - Flick of the Wrist, Fight From the Inside, lyrics for details.

Lets see you do it if its so easy. Ever hear Zep say "natas" in a song- no.

I would love to see you sing something that makes sense forwards and backwards. And if you are so smart and its so easy, top Zeppelin and make the forward something anti- biblical like  "there still time to change the road your on"

I'll be waitng for this easy task to be done.

Michael