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I've always been fond of Satie's Gymnopedies but don't really care for what has come to be known as his 'minimalist' or 'background' music which he termed 'furniture music' A bona fide eccentric by all accounts and a very gifted thinker and writer as well as a musician. Not sure I can discern his influence in much of the classic 1st gen Prog but he clearly left an indelible mark on anyone even tenuously linked with the avant-garde.
Nothing exists in a vacuum. Loads of techniques, styles and sounds emanating from pork rock originated somewhere completely else. Carl Orff, Ligeti, Django Reinhardt, Luc Ferrari and the list literally goes on and on and on with Satie slotted in somewhere.
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
Great music influences music, that's about it. This goes for prog, pop, polka and even p-diddy. Zappa and Area were influenced by doo-wop and Elvis yet also incorporated a bit of avantguarde classical into the mix. I've heard prog bands that sounded like Cocteau Twins and Magma at the same time. Sure some artists end up influencing certain styles more than others - some even being heralded later on as originators of some new sticker (Talk Talk and post-rock fx), but when you talk of niche musicians such as Satie the influences seem rendered to a small group of people who either went through music school or somehow stumbled over him on some intellectual music site. I am not old enough to know but I would still bet my hard earned cash that most upcoming prog musicians don't have a clue about Satie. That goes for the ones starting out in 1969 as well.
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
Great mention there Simon. I have one of their albums buried somewhere deep in the motherload. I cannot for the life of me remember it's name but I do remember the music being very good
I immediately thought of the contemporary band Sonar when I saw this thread.
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Posted: June 23 2017 at 06:48
Guldbamsen wrote:
Nothing exists in a vacuum. Loads of techniques, styles and sounds emanating from pork rock originated somewhere completely else. Carl Orff, Ligeti, Django Reinhardt, Luc Ferrari and the list literally goes on and on and on with Satie slotted in somewhere.
Magma took some cues from Carl Orff
btw, Luc Ferrari is f**king badass, I love his work. Ligeti is one of the Darmstadt greats!
Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
Nothing exists in a vacuum. Loads of techniques, styles and sounds emanating from pork rock originated somewhere completely else. Carl Orff, Ligeti, Django Reinhardt, Luc Ferrari and the list literally goes on and on and on with Satie slotted in somewhere.
Magma took some cues from Carl Orff
btw, Luc Ferrari is f**king badass, I love his work. Ligeti is one of the Darmstadt greats!
He sure is. So much so that one of his students actually made his way onto the archives
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Posted: June 27 2017 at 04:38
Atavachron wrote:
I don't know anyone who isn't in some way fascinated by Satie .
'Blood, Sweat, and Tears' homage to Satie (on their second eponymous album) was a prelude to what could have been with BS&T as a proto-prog group in 1968 - such great stuff (I can listen to it all day...)
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