Is erik satie an influence on prog music
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Topic: Is erik satie an influence on prog music
Posted By: fatcat
Subject: Is erik satie an influence on prog music
Date Posted: June 22 2017 at 00:45
| I heard he is a precursor to minimal music.erik satie is an influence on brian eno of roxy music |
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 22 2017 at 00:59
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I don't know anyone who isn't in some way fascinated by Satie . ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 22 2017 at 01:00
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I've always been fond of Satie's Gymnopedies but don't really care for what has come to be known as his 'minimalist' or 'background' music which he termed 'furniture music' A bona fide eccentric by all accounts and a very gifted thinker and writer as well as a musician. Not sure I can discern his influence in much of the classic 1st gen Prog but he clearly left an indelible mark on anyone even tenuously linked with the avant-garde. ------------- 
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Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: June 22 2017 at 02:21
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Not particularly no ------------- Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV. https://www.soundcloud.com/user-322914325 |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 22 2017 at 02:31
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Nothing exists in a vacuum. Loads of techniques, styles and sounds emanating from pork rock originated somewhere completely else. Carl Orff, Ligeti, Django Reinhardt, Luc Ferrari and the list literally goes on and on and on with Satie slotted in somewhere. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: June 23 2017 at 02:02
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You can hear Satie in a lot of prog but mainly at the outer edges - Residents to Aphex Twin although Steve Hackett provided a notable tribute. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 23 2017 at 04:43
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Great music influences music, that's about it. This goes for prog, pop, polka and even p-diddy. Zappa and Area were influenced by doo-wop and Elvis yet also incorporated a bit of avantguarde classical into the mix. I've heard prog bands that sounded like Cocteau Twins and Magma at the same time. Sure some artists end up influencing certain styles more than others - some even being heralded later on as originators of some new sticker (Talk Talk and post-rock fx), but when you talk of niche musicians such as Satie the influences seem rendered to a small group of people who either went through music school or somehow stumbled over him on some intellectual music site. I am not old enough to know but I would still bet my hard earned cash that most upcoming prog musicians don't have a clue about Satie. That goes for the ones starting out in 1969 as well. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: June 23 2017 at 04:59
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French avant-prog outfit ZNR were sometimes said to be Satie-esque. And I can hear that on some of their tracks, e.g. For those interested, there's a CD box set reissue of their albums coming out on RER Megacorp this Summer. Very good stuff IMO.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 23 2017 at 05:29
Great mention there Simon. I have one of their albums buried somewhere deep in the motherload. I cannot for the life of me remember it's name but I do remember the music being very good I immediately thought of the contemporary band Sonar when I saw this thread. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: June 23 2017 at 06:04
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^ Yeah, I can imagine Satie digging Sonar Though he'd probably encourage them to do more pieces that last 18 hours.
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Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: June 23 2017 at 06:45
The Residents is definitely Harry Partch Zappa is Stravinsky (melodically), Varese (rhythmically) ------------- Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV. https://www.soundcloud.com/user-322914325 |
Flight123 wrote:Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: June 23 2017 at 06:48
Magma took some cues from Carl Orff btw, Luc Ferrari is f**king badass, I love his work. Ligeti is one of the Darmstadt greats!  ------------- Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV. https://www.soundcloud.com/user-322914325 |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 23 2017 at 14:15
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 07:53
He sure is. So much so that one of his students actually made his way onto the archives  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: June 27 2017 at 04:38
'Blood, Sweat, and Tears' homage to Satie (on their second eponymous album) was a prelude to what could have been with BS&T as a proto-prog group in 1968 - such great stuff (I can listen to it all day...) |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 27 2017 at 07:37
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Yes, he is. So was Thomas Edison's recording of Mary Had a Little Lamb. All were prog pioneers. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 27 2017 at 07:58
Did Mary's lie down though?  -------------
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