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Tapfret ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8602 |
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My employer despises giving money to anyone regardless of how hard they work.
So, I guess I get paid sourly.
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21281 |
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This is pretty much entirely my view. I get paid to deliver projects on deadline. My pay is determined by the competitive environment, what the competition pays and therefore what is needed to keep people with my skill set. I work what is needed to deliver against that expectation.
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DeadSouls ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 28 2016 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 4255 |
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Third and first option
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Lucky you didn't make a typo on that one.
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DamoXt7942 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Joined: October 15 2008 Location: Okayama, Japan Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Not sure if the system be good or bad but annually.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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(I love this stuff so please excuse the double posting)
Here's another way of looking at it: Suppose a subcontract job that requires hiring specialist (and expensive) equipment takes 770 manhours to complete and has to be done within 16 days otherwise penalty payments are enforced but if the contractor brings the job in early he gets a small bonus. Let's assume that the hourly rate is $6.66/hr and the plant-hire is $500/day, and lets also add an additional $500/day penalty payment for being late and $500/day bonus for being early. The cost of the job is therefore calculated at 770 x $6.66 +16 x $500 = $5,126 + $8,000 = $13,128 Suppose the contractor has a 5 man team, so assuming a 7 hour day the job will take his team 22 days to complete at a cost of $5,128 in wages but he will incur a 6 day penalty plus 6 days extra plant-hire, and he's $6,000 out of pocket. He could employ an extra two men to work on the contract, so he gets the job done on time and incurs no penalty costs but this sets his wage bill at $5,221 and he is now $93 out of pocket. Now consider what happens when he pays the 5 man team for 3½ hours a day overtime. Now he can get the job done in 15 days with only 14 days overtime, giving a total wage bill of $5944 but it earns him a $500 bonus because he's completed the job a day early, and he's saved another $500 on plant-hire so now the job has cost him $12,944 instead of $13,128 he has $184 left over. |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Whether 'hourly' or 'salary' I suspect the correct answer is 'poorly'. ![]()
You may get paid handsomely for your overtime, as a salaried pen-pusher I get paid handsomely for a 35 hour week which more than compensates for the two or three weeks in the year that I turn in a 48 hour week, not because I need the extra money from overtime each and every week to make a living wage like many hourly-paid staff, nor because my employer is exploitative, but because occasionally the work requires a few extra hours effort to meet a deadline. I take the view that my annual salary is not for 1,820 hours work per year but for something like say 1,860, which is a 2% difference and while 2% of my salary may seem like a lot of money (and I assure you it is until the taxman runs away with 40% of it), it's actually less than 2% of what I take home each year. Sure, getting an extra 12 hours pay in my monthly pay-cheque for working an additional 3 hours each week in that month would be enough spare cash to pay for a slap-up meal in a fancy restaurant for me and my family, even after paying 40% income tax on it, but it's not a life-changing sum of money, nor will it pay for a holiday in the Bahama's. When I first started work my Dad gave me some sage advice, which was "Live within your means and never rely on overtime." He lived by this philosophy all his life, he used any overtime payments for luxuries rather than necessities and even in the 1960s he would rather hold down two jobs to put food on the table than be forced to beg for regular overtime from his employer. This wasn't some whacked-out socialist ideology on his part, (he'd never turn-down overtime), but simple common sense that put him in control of what he earnt rather than rely on the good nature of a supervisor or foreman to dole-out overtime hours like sweeties. Overtime payments are very much like the outmoded and divisive payment of tipping, deliberately paying low wages so employees have to claim welfare benefits and zero hour contracts. They are all means of controlling the workforce, making them work longer hours for less money. Because employers can count on hourly paid staff working those extra hours which they have to pay at time-an'a-half, they set the basic hourly-rate low to account for the extra payment. Consider it this way - you get paid $6.66 for a 35 hour week ($233) but your employer expects you to work 48 hours a week every week. This of course means he pays you $9.99 an hour for those extra 13 hours ($130) which sounds like a real bonus right? Because now your week's pay is 35 x $6.66 + 13 x $9.99 = $363. Yippee! and Handsome! ...except what that really means is your actual hourly rate is $363 ÷ 48 = $7.56. So by paying you 90¢ less each hour he has conned you into working 13 hours longer each week... Remember this: the people who set hourly rates do not pay themselves by the hour.
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21281 |
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Salaried paperpusher & very happy that way that you very much.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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hourly!!!!
only saps and chumps and paperpushers do salary.... if I work overtime.. I get paid handsomely for it.. not have it expected to be part of my 'salaried' position. That is where the big money is.. |
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Barbu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855 |
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13$/gram
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Fee for service.
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Barbu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855 |
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Hahaha
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Each month, I receive a certain amount which grants me the ability to pay the rent and the electricity buy some food, go to concerts and keep a little money so I could face the forthcoming stage of professional life known as: unemployment.
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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As an independent contractor I get paid by the hour, but it's a daily rate based on a maximum of 10 hrs a day. It can be very lucrative if there is a long term contract, but when the work is sporadic the overall benefit is diminished.
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HemispheresOfXanadu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 28 2012 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4339 |
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Hourly for pushing shopping carts, lifting stuff into people's cars, sweeping, running the floor cleaner, merchandising skids and the ends of aisles, watering plants. Also occasionally telling other people in my department what to do. All for the low, low price of minimum wage!
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Celery.
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Every 500 hours I get granted access to another toilet in the restroom.
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My work is its own reward.
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