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Topic: Hourly or Salary?
Posted By: infocat
Subject: Hourly or Salary?
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 20:46
Which?

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 20:54
Depends on the job, doesn't it? I've had salary positions where I had to work 60 hours a week (no overtime, of course), and another where I worked maybe 45 hours per and it paid quite nicely. Hourly? Only if you're in the UAW or Teamsters and have been there 20+ years, or a plumber.

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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 21:01
How about voting based on your current employment status.


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Posted By: Ozark Soundscape
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 23:05
10 bucks a week


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 00:01
Hourly. At this current job I rather be salaried.

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 06:13
10$/gram

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 06:19
My work is its own reward.


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 08:55
Every 500 hours I get granted access to another toilet in the restroom.

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 10:06
Celery.

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Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 10:11
Hourly for pushing shopping carts, lifting stuff into people's cars, sweeping, running the floor cleaner, merchandising skids and the ends of aisles, watering plants. Also occasionally telling other people in my department what to do. All for the low, low price of minimum wage!

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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 17:47
As an independent contractor I get paid by the hour, but it's a daily rate based on a maximum of 10 hrs a day. It can be very lucrative if there is a long term contract, but when the work is sporadic the overall benefit is diminished. 


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 31 2016 at 04:42
Each month, I receive a certain amount which grants me the ability to pay the rent and the electricity buy some food, go to concerts and keep a little money so I could face the forthcoming stage of professional life known as: unemployment.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 31 2016 at 08:58
Hahaha

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Posted By: Wirebender
Date Posted: December 16 2016 at 11:32
Fee for service.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: December 16 2016 at 13:07
13$/gram

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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: December 16 2016 at 20:01
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

13$/gram
End of year raise?


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 17 2016 at 07:45
hourly!!!!

only saps and chumps and paperpushers do salary....   if I work overtime.. I get paid handsomely for it.. not have it expected to be part of my 'salaried' position.  That is where the big money is..


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 17 2016 at 08:30
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hourly!!!!

only saps and chumps and paperpushers do salary....   if I work overtime.. I get paid handsomely for it.. not have it expected to be part of my 'salaried' position.  That is where the big money is..


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 17 2016 at 09:35
Salaried paperpusher & very happy that way that you very much.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 18 2016 at 00:35
Whether 'hourly' or 'salary' I suspect the correct answer is 'poorly'. LOL

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hourly!!!!

only saps and chumps and paperpushers do salary....   if I work overtime.. I get paid handsomely for it.. not have it expected to be part of my 'salaried' position.  That is where the big money is..
You may get paid handsomely for your overtime, as a salaried pen-pusher I get paid handsomely for a 35 hour week which more than compensates for the two or three weeks in the year that I turn in a 48 hour week, not because I need the extra money from overtime each and every week to make a living wage like many hourly-paid staff, nor because my employer is exploitative, but because occasionally the work requires a few extra hours effort to meet a deadline. 

I take the view that my annual salary is not for 1,820 hours work per year but for something like say 1,860, which is a 2% difference and while 2% of my salary may seem like a lot of money (and I assure you it is until the taxman runs away with 40% of it), it's actually less than 2% of what I take home each year. Sure, getting an extra 12 hours pay in my monthly pay-cheque for working an additional 3 hours each week in that month would be enough spare cash to pay for a slap-up meal in a fancy restaurant for me and my family, even after paying 40% income tax on it, but it's not a life-changing sum of money, nor will it pay for a holiday in the Bahama's.

When I first started work my Dad gave me some sage advice, which was "Live within your means and never rely on overtime." He lived by this philosophy all his life, he used any overtime payments for luxuries rather than necessities and even in the 1960s he would rather hold down two jobs to put food on the table than be forced to beg for regular overtime from his employer. This wasn't some whacked-out socialist ideology on his part, (he'd never turn-down overtime), but simple common sense that put him in control of what he earnt rather than rely on the good nature of a supervisor or foreman to dole-out overtime hours like sweeties.

Overtime payments are very much like the outmoded and divisive payment of tipping, deliberately paying low wages so employees have to claim welfare benefits and zero hour contracts. They are all means of controlling the workforce, making them work longer hours for less money. Because employers can count on hourly paid staff working those extra hours which they have to pay at time-an'a-half, they set the basic hourly-rate low to account for the extra payment. 

Consider it this way - you get paid $6.66 for a 35 hour week ($233) but your employer expects you to work 48 hours a week every week. This of course means he pays you $9.99 an hour for those extra 13 hours ($130) which sounds like a real bonus right? Because now your week's pay is 35 x $6.66 + 13 x $9.99 = $363. Yippee! and Handsome! ...except what that really means is your actual hourly rate is $363 ÷ 48 = $7.56. So by paying you 90¢ less each hour he has conned you into working 13 hours longer each week... 

Remember this: the people who set hourly rates do not pay themselves by the hour.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 18 2016 at 03:02
(I love this stuff so please excuse the double posting)

Here's another way of looking at it:

Suppose a subcontract job that requires hiring specialist (and expensive) equipment takes 770 manhours to complete and has to be done within 16 days otherwise penalty payments are enforced but if the contractor brings the job in early he gets a small bonus. 

Let's assume that the hourly rate is $6.66/hr and the plant-hire is $500/day, and lets also add an additional $500/day penalty payment for being late and $500/day bonus for being early.

The cost of the job is therefore calculated at 770 x $6.66 +16 x $500 = $5,126 + $8,000 = $13,128

Suppose the contractor has a 5 man team, so assuming a 7 hour day the job will take his team 22 days to complete at a cost of $5,128 in wages but he will incur a 6 day penalty plus 6 days extra plant-hire, and he's $6,000 out of pocket. 

He could employ an extra two men to work on the contract, so he gets the job done on time and incurs no penalty costs but this sets his wage bill at $5,221 and he is now $93 out of pocket.

Now consider what happens when he pays the 5 man team for 3½ hours a day overtime. Now he can get the job done in 15 days with only 14 days overtime, giving a total wage bill of $5944 but it earns him a $500 bonus because he's completed the job a day early, and he's saved another $500 on plant-hire so now the job has cost him $12,944 instead of $13,128 he has $184 left over.



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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: December 18 2016 at 04:06
Not sure if the system be good or bad but annually.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 18 2016 at 04:26
Lucky you didn't make a typo on that one. 

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Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: December 18 2016 at 07:30
Third and first option


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 18 2016 at 07:43
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Whether 'hourly' or 'salary' I suspect the correct answer is 'poorly'. LOL

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hourly!!!!

only saps and chumps and paperpushers do salary....   if I work overtime.. I get paid handsomely for it.. not have it expected to be part of my 'salaried' position.  That is where the big money is..
You may get paid handsomely for your overtime, as a salaried pen-pusher I get paid handsomely for a 35 hour week which more than compensates for the two or three weeks in the year that I turn in a 48 hour week, not because I need the extra money from overtime each and every week to make a living wage like many hourly-paid staff, nor because my employer is exploitative, but because occasionally the work requires a few extra hours effort to meet a deadline. 


This is pretty much entirely my view. I get paid to deliver projects on deadline. My pay is determined by the competitive environment, what the competition pays and therefore what is needed to keep people with my skill set. I work what is needed to deliver against that expectation. 


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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 22 2016 at 12:44
My employer despises giving money to anyone regardless of how hard they work.

So, I guess I get paid sourly.


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