Do Yes get the respect that they deserve?

andreol263 wrote: Yeah,They even get the respect that they don't deserve...

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Logan wrote: Watchmaker wrote: Well, I still can't understand if you are serious or not lol. Anyway, my honest opinion is written above. Feel free to disagree with it. I was being completely serious, otherwise I would have used ;) instead of :). I knew someone who put Yes at the same level as Beethoven, Bach and Mozart. Not sure I would go that far but I do feel they deserve as much respect as Pink Floyd, Rush and King Crimson which they definitely do not seem to get(imo). I kind of feel that if they stopped making albums after Drama(they did in fact break up for a short period of time right after that one)that they would be much more respected by prog fans(or even after BG).

Personally I hold Yes in higher regard than Rush and lower than King Crimson, but that's my bias. I've always had some difficulty thinking of Pink Floyd as a Prog proper band even though they have made music that I consider to be Prog (the Prog quotient does not make me like a band more as I listen mostly to music that is on the outskirts of Prog). You may be right, but then Genesis is highly regarded and here and yet they made some later albums that are not highly regarded in Prog circles. Maybe they'd both be more highly regarded still if they stopped releasing album in the 1970s.

While I an personally not a big fan of Yes' music, they were clearly highly influential and significant to Progressive Rock (I think they're more important than Rush even if Rush inspired a lot of Prog Metal, in fact I'm quite sure Yes was a big inspiration for Rush).

Like Rush, and VdGG, as well as a a multitude of other bands, quite a few people don't like Yes because of the singing. I happen to like Jon Anderson, but am not keen on Geddy Lee's vocals.

At one time Fragile was my favourite rock album, though these days I prefer the Yes Album and I happen to like Time and A word very much. Relayer I also liked, but I never really got into Close to the Edge. It's a pretty good album to my ears, but it never had any real impact on me. There is more adventurous, nuanced, textured and harmonically complex Prog out there (not that music need be adventurous or complex for me to enjoy it).

I actually respect Yes a lot for their contribution to music even if I don't appreciate their music nearly as much as the Yes fanbase does.

Edited by Logan - November 21 2016 at 17:41

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: andreol263 wrote: Yeah,They even get the respect that they don't deserve... Ok, but to be fair, in your opinion, what other prog bands does that statement apply to?

Amongst prog circles they certainly do, and even on websites that don't cater to prog rock Yes are generally one of the most popular artists of the genre. It's a shame they haven't entered the rock and roll Hall of Fame, though.

Upbeat Tango Monday wrote: Yes gets the respect it deserves amongst proggers, for sure. Of course, you all know there are little kids who come here in order to rig the poll votes because "OMG, Porcupine Tree is losing against some old dudes called Yes. I must fix this". They also mess with the album rankings...but, hey, that's life. The really bad thing about non-proggers who listen to Pink Floyd, Tool, Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, etc. is that they come here in order to talk crap all the time and you can tell they don't know a thing or two about prog. The good thing is some of them might change their ways and become proggers...who knows. ^^ Back in 2002 I used to think Dream Theater was the best band ever XD So....Don't worry, YES is still great.

Also, I'm not talking about 1976 but 2016. ;)

Oh I think so.   Sales, however, are another matter.

looking at their (not-so) recent history , I didn't know Yes deserved any kind of respect

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Upbeat Tango Monday wrote: Yes gets the respect it deserves amongst proggers, for sure. Of course, you all know there are little kids who come here in order to rig the poll votes because "OMG, Porcupine Tree is losing against some old dudes called Yes. I must fix this". They also mess with the album rankings...but, hey, that's life. The really bad thing about non-proggers who listen to Pink Floyd, Tool, Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, etc. is that they come here in order to talk crap all the time and you can tell they don't know a thing or two about prog. The good thing is some of them might change their ways and become proggers...who knows. ^^ Back in 2002 I used to think Dream Theater was the best band ever XD So....Don't worry, YES is still great. I think this post is the closest I have seen so far to what I am thinking. I know Yes are respected among most of the older proggers but the younger folks who get into the genre through Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree and Rush(who you forgot to mention ;) )are the ones I'm worried about. Plus they are the ones who voted in droves in that Rolling Stone poll apparently. Who's to say they are prog fans or not. Who's to say what a prog fan even is anymore these days.

I don't understand this line of thinking. People like what they like simples. I know a lot of folks into prog but not into Yes and vice versa. I do not particularly enjoy Jon's vocals....but I can appreciate the influence the music of Yes had and still has.
Yes are practically prog deity and are treated as such...meaning only the really big ones garner a serious backlashing audience just like Dream Theater and Steven Wilson have nowadays. Take it as a huge compliment.
Oh and btw do Yes really deserve anything else than a wet willy and a snake in a handbag for their most recent output? I think not.

I think Yes may suffer a bit because it's been a good while since they really managed to capture the zeitgeist. 90125 was one of the more reasonably successful transitions of a prog band from prog to pop which we saw in the 1980s, but it's dated badly, the followup tanked, and Genesis did the "prog goes pop" thing far more successfully (at least in terms of record sales and radio time), which rather overshadowed them.