Do Yes get the respect that they deserve?
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Topic: Do Yes get the respect that they deserve?
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Do Yes get the respect that they deserve?
Date Posted: November 20 2016 at 18:35
| This might sound like a silly question to post on a forum such as this but I am being serious when I ask this. In my opinion I would say no they don't(not these days at least). And I don't just mean in general but in prog circles too. In fact one of the reasons why I ask this is because even many prog fans either don't like them or aren't that familiar with them. This is especially true for younger fans although most of them know who Pink Floyd, Genesis and Rush are(especially Rush)and countless prog metal bands). Outside of prog circles most people around my age(mid 40's) or older know who they are even if they aren't fans through classic rock and their popularity in the seventies and into the eighties. At some point though Yes lost the plot and I say that as a major fan. They never really transitioned into the kind of band that has respect on another level(like say Rush or Pink Floyd)and they don't even have the hipster approval of say King Crimson. It's a shame because there is something special about them and even lots of magical moments on their albums even after the so called main sequence of their catalog(71-77) which more or less parallels(no pun intended)Genesis' back catalog as far as prog respect goes. There could be many reasons for this and I'm not saying Yes are obscure or aren't a well known band but it just seems that most of their fan base are fans from the old days and that these days they are mostly remembered for a few hits. It used to be they were one of the first prog bands that those new to prog would discover. These days I'm not even so sure about that. I decided to post this topic after seeing that Yes came in at number six on an online poll of the top ten prog bands of all time by Rolling Stone. Ahead of Yes were(in order)King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Genesis, Pink Floyd and Rush. They said Rush had the most votes by far. On the plus side Yes recently made it to number one on a list of top 100 prog bands in PROG magazine. However, my guess is those voting are more hardcore(and possibly much older)than those who voted in the Rolling Stone poll. |
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 20 2016 at 20:53
| I never thought they have lost much popularity. At least not on Prog Archives. They can still win their fair share of polls, and are well represented in the ranking of albums, even the top 10. Mostly people seem to easily get annoyed by Anderson's vocals, or by their weak output since... well, whatever time different people seen to consider they lost their way. At least most agree that they are not doing very well at the moment, and mostly through this decade. Now, a band that really suffers from all those unapreciation things you mentioned at the moment is ELP. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 20 2016 at 21:37
| Well, on the Rolling Stone poll ELP came in at number 7 just one slot behind Yes(Tool, Mars Volta and Dream Theater were the others but I don't remember the order). I agree that ELP are even less respected in prog circles than Yes these days though. Yes music has aged a bit better than ELP I suppose and as a result Yes are a bit more well known. I think if there's one band that even most prog fans seem to think has given prog a bad name it's ELP. However, I've always enjoyed ELP particularly the first few albums. |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 20 2016 at 23:10
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Rolling Stone has much more mainstream sensibilities than any Prog oriented site or mag, so their polling will reflect that. And yes, I am implying that Rush is more mainstream than Yes, which they are. Short songs, hard rocking, that sort of thing. Rush has also been more consistent than Yes over the years. With a band like Yes, who have such a long history and extensive discography, how they are regarded is going to change over time. Nowadays, their past glory is highly regarded - with CTTE listed on PA as the best Prog album ever. It does not seem that that will change. But their newer work is not so highly regarded. As a long time fan, I like everything they have done to one degree or another with the exception of their latest. For they overall output, they are highly regarded, but not for their newer releases. Which Yes are we talking about here? ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Maurstar
Date Posted: November 20 2016 at 23:11
| I usually tend to forget the meaning of the lyrics when they are part of the score. Examples of brouhaha added to music are ageless and a lot of Yes lyrics make no sense at all, but then they make the song a solid piece of music (being owner of a lonely heart a solid piece of crap, tho.) |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 06:22
| I think many bands have see this happening to them. Deep Purple was considered, if not the best, one of the best hard rock bands, way ahead of Led Zepellin, which is now regarded as the greatest hard rock band of all times, though their music was more blues oriented. Jethro Tull is even more ignored by the media than Yes these days, and I really doubt that Rush has nearly the musical quality they had in their early days. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 09:43
| ^When was Deep Purple ever "way ahead" of Led Zeppelin? My guess is if that was true it didn't last long. Maybe that changed after LZ 4? |
Posted By: Watchmaker
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 13:29
I don't want to troll or anything, but I consider Yes the most
overrated prog band ever. I have listened to their best albums and found
them average at worst and very good at best. But number one of all
time? Not even close. Now, I know that that opinion may change
dramatically in the future, but right now this is how it is for me  .
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 13:31
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I don't find Yes very good, but the band has been very important to Progressive Rock. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 13:32
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[I don't want to troll or anything] Then don't.
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Posted By: Watchmaker
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 13:37
I know it's a strange opinion to be expressed (especially) in a prog rock forum. More or less I agree with Logan. Is he trolling though ?  |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 13:58
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Nope, I was speaking honestly, and not to inflame or confuse people. When I was new to the web I loved to troll message boards, although I thought of it as creative writing. Sometimes I feel the need to let people know that I'm not trolling or being sarcastic since people often are prone to assumptions and preconceptions. It's funny how a simple difference of opinion or difference in taste can inflame some people. I never would have thought you were trolling, Watchmaker. :) ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 14:02
A bit too much respect...imho.
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Posted By: Watchmaker
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 14:08
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Well, I still can't understand if you are serious or not lol. Anyway, my honest opinion is written above. Feel free to disagree with it. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 14:14
| I believe that Yes get the respect they deserve for a hand full of past albums that include a few masterpieces of prog. I also feel, like dr wu, that they get a bit too much considering the bulk of their work that succeeds "Going For The One". They have produced more than a hand full of turkeys too, including some of their bizarre collaborations like "ABWH", and especially the "Union" album debacle. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 14:24
I was being completely serious, otherwise I would have used ;) instead of :). I knew someone who put Yes at the same level as Beethoven, Bach and Mozart. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Watchmaker wrote:Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 14:35
It depends. If you are stating your honest opinion and not trying to bait anyone or intentionally cause trouble then no that's not trolling. I didn't get the feeling he was trolling. It was actually you who used the word troll not me. It's kind of like when a little kid blurts out that he doesn't want candy. Well, if he really doesn't want it why is he saying that? But no both you were actually quite well behaved.
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 14:36
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Yes are my all-time favorite band so I obviously feel they do not get the respect they deserve. The Yes Album 10/10 Fragile 10/10 Close To The Edge 10/10 Tales From Topographic Oceans 10/10 Relayer 10/10 That's a pretty amazing run of excellence - all within a 45 month time span (February 1971 to November 1974.) Genesis is the only other band who even comes close (IMHO.)
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 14:39
Not sure I would go that far but I do feel they deserve as much respect as Pink Floyd, Rush and King Crimson which they definitely do not seem to get(imo). I kind of feel that if they stopped making albums after Drama(they did in fact break up for a short period of time right after that one)that they would be much more respected by prog fans(or even after BG).
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 14:41
I agree. All great stuff. I would argue that Rush(75-81/82)Gentle Giant(70-76) and King Crimson(69-74)also all come pretty close. I do agree with Genesis too of course. If Van der Graaf Generator didn't have that gap between 71 and 75 I'd include them too.
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Posted By: andreol263
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 16:31
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Yeah,They even get the respect that they don't deserve... ------------- 
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 16:54
Ok, but to be fair, in your opinion, what other prog bands does that statement apply to?
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 17:10
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perhaps in a the larger world .... where even non-prog fan knows this group was f**king great... but definitely not on this forum. Some clowns here think bands like Genesis are even half as good as they were ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 17:37
Personally I hold Yes in higher regard than Rush and lower than King Crimson, but that's my bias. I've always had some difficulty thinking of Pink Floyd as a Prog proper band even though they have made music that I consider to be Prog (the Prog quotient does not make me like a band more as I listen mostly to music that is on the outskirts of Prog). You may be right, but then Genesis is highly regarded and here and yet they made some later albums that are not highly regarded in Prog circles. Maybe they'd both be more highly regarded still if they stopped releasing album in the 1970s. While I an personally not a big fan of Yes' music, they were clearly highly influential and significant to Progressive Rock (I think they're more important than Rush even if Rush inspired a lot of Prog Metal, in fact I'm quite sure Yes was a big inspiration for Rush). Like Rush, and VdGG, as well as a a multitude of other bands, quite a few people don't like Yes because of the singing. I happen to like Jon Anderson, but am not keen on Geddy Lee's vocals. At one time Fragile was my favourite rock album, though these days I prefer the Yes Album and I happen to like Time and A word very much. Relayer I also liked, but I never really got into Close to the Edge. It's a pretty good album to my ears, but it never had any real impact on me. There is more adventurous, nuanced, textured and harmonically complex Prog out there (not that music need be adventurous or complex for me to enjoy it). I actually respect Yes a lot for their contribution to music even if I don't appreciate their music nearly as much as the Yes fanbase does. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 17:52
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I too don't care much for Yes. Apart from Close to the Edge, I find them terribly cluttered and too "up" all the time. It's exhausting. The other day I decided to give TFTO a try again. I had an idea for my review, but it doesn't meet the word count threshold". It would be simply Busy Busy Busy But I admit I like my prog simpler, so I normally don't diss yes in public here, and I appreciate all they have done and their influence. I'm willing to admit that the problem is with me and not yes. Which is more than I will say about Supertramp
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Posted By: andreol263
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 17:57
I've found Marillion, Camel and others highly overrated too, Yes it's actually very good(i love Relayer and Tales), but it's really overrated compared to what King Crimson and Magma did to the style. -------------
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 18:40
But Yes are very different than Magma. King Crimson are very different to Magma. Other than the bands they influenced such as Eskaton(and Zuehl in general)I really can't think of any band from the seventies similar to Magma.  I say this as a fan of Magma too. I've seen them three times with a show earlier this year being the most recent. I guess I got confused when you said "style." I suppose you meant genre since their styles are obviously different. ;)
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Posted By: thepurplepiper
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 19:57
| Amongst prog circles they certainly do, and even on websites that don't cater to prog rock Yes are generally one of the most popular artists of the genre. It's a shame they haven't entered the rock and roll Hall of Fame, though. |
Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 20:10
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Yes gets the respect it deserves amongst proggers, for sure. Of course, you all know there are little kids who come here in order to rig the poll votes because "OMG, Porcupine Tree is losing against some old dudes called Yes. I must fix this". They also mess with the album rankings...but, hey, that's life. The really bad thing about non-proggers who listen to Pink Floyd, Tool, Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, etc. is that they come here in order to talk crap all the time and you can tell they don't know a thing or two about prog. The good thing is some of them might change their ways and become proggers...who knows. ^^ Back in 2002 I used to think Dream Theater was the best band ever XD So....Don't worry, YES is still great. ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 20:21
I think this post is the closest I have seen so far to what I am thinking. I know Yes are respected among most of the older proggers but the younger folks who get into the genre through Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree and Rush(who you forgot to mention ;) )are the ones I'm worried about. Plus they are the ones who voted in droves in that Rolling Stone poll apparently. Who's to say they are prog fans or not. Who's to say what a prog fan even is anymore these days.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 22:58
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Yes. ------------- |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 23:08
| Also, I'm not talking about 1976 but 2016. ;) |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 21 2016 at 23:26
| Of course YES deserve all the respect they have - for their body of work from '69-'80 Now, I really enjoy their last offering with Heaven And Earth. Is it the Swansong they want to be remembered by ?? I respect Roger Dean for decorating a mostly AOR album with superb artwork. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 22 2016 at 00:02
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Oh I think so. Sales, however, are another matter. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: November 23 2016 at 08:55
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Yes are amazing band when great players are in the band---Fragile line-up---Tales line-up---Relayer line-up So 6 amazing albums---a few good ones---Problem with Yes is after 1979 they are so mediocre with no seriously great essential music----that's a long time for any band to be mediocre. Unlike other bands like Genesis or Pink Floyd or KC---they were careless with who they let in the band and the direction of the music. I still think Keys has some great new music----and Mag had In the Presence of....as proper prog songs---but the AOR sound of a lot of their stuff isn't my thing.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 23 2016 at 10:02
looking at their (not-so) recent history , I didn't know Yes deserved any kind of respect 
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 23 2016 at 10:17
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^ Ah, but it's well known that showing respect has never been one of your strenght, Hugues. ------------- |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 24 2016 at 01:51
I don't understand this line of thinking. People like what they like simples. I know a lot of folks into prog but not into Yes and vice versa. I do not particularly enjoy Jon's vocals....but I can appreciate the influence the music of Yes had and still has. Yes are practically prog deity and are treated as such...meaning only the really big ones garner a serious backlashing audience just like Dream Theater and Steven Wilson have nowadays. Take it as a huge compliment. Oh and btw do Yes really deserve anything else than a wet willy and a snake in a handbag for their most recent output? I think not. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 24 2016 at 01:57
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^ What I don't get is that when I was a teen, I liked the old stuff as much as what was contemporary. More, actually. But I guess we were a bunch of retro daydreamers. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Warthur
Date Posted: November 24 2016 at 05:18
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I think Yes may suffer a bit because it's been a good while since they really managed to capture the zeitgeist. 90125 was one of the more reasonably successful transitions of a prog band from prog to pop which we saw in the 1980s, but it's dated badly, the followup tanked, and Genesis did the "prog goes pop" thing far more successfully (at least in terms of record sales and radio time), which rather overshadowed them. Meanwhile, King Crimson very successfully reinvented themselves in the 1980s, and then managed a mini-resurgence in the 1990s, and Rush have been great survivors. And of course you had a fresh crop of new acts coming in. That isn't to say that Yes haven't produced any good material since the early 1980s (though... well, the most diplomatic thing I can say here is that if they have, I haven't heard it). But they certainly haven't produced anything which actually put them back on the cultural radar the way their classic run of albums did in the 1970s and the way they momentarily managed with 90125. That said, I don't think they get less respect than they deserve. They're still cited as an influence by lots of folks, and lots of prog fans my age (34) and younger seem to love them despite missing out on their original run. But their reputation seems to be of a band whose best days are behind them and whose discography has become cluttered with less worthy releases over time... and to be fair, that seems to be precisely the reputation they deserve, provided it comes with the caveat that their best days were absolutely incredible.
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Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: November 24 2016 at 07:42
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Yes will always get respect in prog circles, but branching out a bit in the rock scene where vocals and lyrics play a bigger role, they become very polarizing. There's no shortage of folks who aren't down with Jon's prose, written off as new-age fluffy nonsensical drivel. Floyd's lyrics starting with DSotM were dark themed and comprehensive, Tull's were "smart" and cynical, Crimson's were weird yet had a darker vibe, and as odd as Genesis were in the 70's, the lyrics could be followed as narratives. Mags like Rolling Stone aren't going to appreciate the hopeful yet obtuse ramblings of Jon, and singing "Wish You Were Here" by the campfire isn't going to come across as corny as even the most played of Yes' tunes on rock radio such as "I've Seen All the Good People". Jon's voice is less of an issue but still an issue. Other higher pitched vocalists were big (Robert Plant) but Jon's were particularly "light" which, while suitable for the lyrics, lack that manly rock star image. I have to say if I were to form a Yes cover band, it would be easier to just go for a female vocalist...
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: November 24 2016 at 07:48
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If they broke up after Relayer I would have more respect for them... ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Warthur
Date Posted: November 24 2016 at 08:49
Can we compromise and have them break up after Going For the One, but still get the "Drama" album under a different band name?
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: November 24 2016 at 09:11
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^No, I don't like Going For Number Two. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: November 24 2016 at 12:32
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But, after all, does Yes deserve any respect at all? Are not they the cause of nothing but awkward embarassment for every prog fan? Can't we agree that this band had brought us only shame, guilt, fear, emptiness and despair?  |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 24 2016 at 13:07
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^ Ton coté sarcastique atteint de nouveaux sommets, mon ami. ------------- |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: November 24 2016 at 20:32
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Yes was an amazing band---when they had the 5 best guys in England playing with them--an explosion of creative music. Very few groups have reinvented their sound like Yes-- from--The Yes Album---to Fragile/CTTE----to Tales---to Relayer---the shear artistry of sound from album to album is amazing and very few prog bands were as adventurous with their music.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 25 2016 at 17:39
| I kind of get the OP's point. Over a period of time Yes has come to be regarded as more of a gateway prog band. It is diminished now, but this forum had a strong Avant-bias just a few years back so in the eyes of Avant centric fans Yes was just melodic fluff. But they are also by far one of the most important and influential bands of the genre and that ought to outweigh hipster approval. Personally I really like them if not as much as hardcore Yes fans mainly because I find it too cheerful too much of the time. No, this isn't me saying "Bro, Avant rocks because it's so dark". I am interested in a deeper concept, that of soul. You can find soul on a Stevie Wonder album but harder to find in a Yes album (at least for me). |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 25 2016 at 18:40
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Yes would have gained far more respect if it hadn't selected a monosyllabic affirmative as a band name. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: November 26 2016 at 04:14
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Mainstream wise I think most people think oh, he's the guy who sings Owner Of A Lonely Heart. Bit like those idiots who think Led Zeppelin is the guy who sang Stairway To Heaven. But no, social intelligence reduction. Oops, sorry - dumbing down - and the acceptance of taking what's served up (still with the TOP 20 mentality kids?) means that something such as Yes is knocked for being "old" which I understand is a Bad Thing. Not to forget web trained attention spans means things have gone from being Quickened - as observed by Queensryche - to shortened as observed by your truly and others. You Tube clips of comedy means that episodes of Blackadder seem endless to the children in whom we place our futura. I was watching and listening to the Lugano DVD with the Tsongas set. And You And I is, as ever a masterwork that is outstanding. But the surprise is the detail and craft Steve Howe gives Owner Of A Lonely Heart. A slightly different identity and giving it a more er, Yes type sound than the streamlined sounds of Trevor Rabin. So, no is the answer. So long as the intelligence aspect of music forsaken in place of cultural identity or blind and bland ague emotion then anything that requires using the little grey cells going to be disregarded. Jeeznis, it's not that difficult. Yes have sublime melodies and when you get past the immediacy there's a lot to be heard. Put on The Yes Album first thing... |
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: November 26 2016 at 04:37
| I would have more respect for Yes had they called it quits in the late 70s. That is not to say, some of the individual members have continued to make some great music. Of these, I would list Jon Anderson, Bill Bruford and to some extent Rick Wakeman. (Which means that AWBH was one of the few notable 'Yes' projects beyond the 70s). Howe allowed himself to be seduced by the ghastly Asia (and GTR), Squire seemed to spend his time trying to resurrect Yes in whatever form with White going along with him. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 27 2016 at 04:26
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Yes kinda fizzed out for me after Drama. I gave them a break with 90210, I got back on with Union. I streamed Fly From Here but not enough to buy it. No problems if Yes carries on beyond any original members but there is so much great vital new prog going on out there and only 24 hours in the day... ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 27 2016 at 09:56
I believe indeed that after Going for the One they lost the spark they had with their classic albums and all. Yet, I would be missing some really wonderful individual songs if they had called it quits after that album. Things like "Machine Messiah", "Owner of a Lonely Heart" itself (though for many that song is a reason for not liking post 70's Yes) and "Hold On", "The More we Live", "Endless Dream", "Be the One", parts of "Mind Drive" (how I wish they would release an edit of that song leaving only the XYZ written segment with the Steve Howe acoustic intro, but taking out what I understand are the Anderson parts), "In the Presence of", plus a few other great songs from Magnification, and yes, even the trio of main songs that form the suposed "epic" of "Fly from Here". |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 27 2016 at 13:26
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No more recent music of any band makes their older music invalid, so I don't see why it should diminish my respect for a band that from some point onwards they did stuff that I don't like. Had they stopped at that point, I wouldn't be better off by an inch, so why deny them respect for moving on? |
Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: November 27 2016 at 14:12
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They don't get my respect.
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: November 27 2016 at 15:29
I agree and you can't get a more diverse run of sounds than on those Yes albums---I like GFTO too---although not as perfect as the one's you mentioned. If you like classic prog most would agree there are about 10 important bands----Yes and Genesis are one and two---even if you don't appreciate all of them.
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Posted By: EddieRUKiddingVarese
Date Posted: November 27 2016 at 15:38
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Yes and No ------------- "Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits! |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 27 2016 at 21:24
Perfectly said. Most bands have their period of excellence and then loose the spark... and most of them aren't able to capture that spark, or a new one, as brightly again. In such a case, we would be stuck listening only to music by new artists. |
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: November 28 2016 at 02:29
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The point I was trying to make is that some of the individual members went on to produce some great music without the need to resurrect 'Yes' - particularly Jon Anderson and Bill Bruford. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 28 2016 at 07:21
For those who are too lazy to do the french/english transaltion on google ;): Anyway, someone said they get respect in prog circles. Well, not on here. It seems they are polarizing everywhere although maybe not as much as say Gentle Giant, Magma, VDGG or neo prog. |
Posted By: lostrom
Date Posted: November 28 2016 at 11:45
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Not outside the prog community. ------------- lostrom |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 28 2016 at 12:43
| ^And apparently sometimes not even inside the prog community. However, maybe those in this thread who say they don't like Yes at least still respect them. |