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Cristi 
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Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 43545 |
 Posted: October 13 2016 at 14:09 |
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^ I am quite surprised and sometimes shocked at some of the things I've read in those 2 threads as well.
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Mascodagama
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
Posted: October 13 2016 at 14:22 |
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On the whole, I think this is unfair to masturbation.
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CPicard
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Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Lā, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
Posted: October 13 2016 at 14:33 |
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Dream Theater, musical masturbation? I may have stopped listening to them nearly a dozen years ago, but I don't remember their style as "masturbatory": "Pull Me Under" or "6:00" are really good songs (and I insist that I stopped listening to them a long time ago, because their music was a bit too much "clean" and mainstream for me).
If you want musical masturbation, go listen to Behold The Arctopus or Upsilon Acrux (there are also some noise-rock and math-rock bands which are guilty of such behaviours). |
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Son.of.Tiresias
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Joined: October 23 2014 Location: Northern Hemisp Status: Offline Points: 441 |
Posted: October 16 2016 at 05:36 |
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Hmm, you are right. Masturbation is a holy ritual. So did I actually praise Dream Theater ? Anyway, masturbation is everyoneīs dream theater really, in the end. LMOA
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You may see a smile on Tony Banksī face but thatīs unlikely.
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Cristi
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Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 43545 |
Posted: October 16 2016 at 05:40 |
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^ I wonder what have you heard from DT to make such a statement
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micky
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Posted: October 16 2016 at 05:48 |
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 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=117496 |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Cristi
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Posted: October 16 2016 at 05:54 |
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Try listening to instrumental shred albums, I dare you or albums that Malmsteen released after 1996. I don't think anyone would complain about DT that much anymore.
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Son.of.Tiresias
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Joined: October 23 2014 Location: Northern Hemisp Status: Offline Points: 441 |
Posted: October 16 2016 at 05:55 |
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I really donīt understand you and your humour. Hmm... maybe you live in a parallel universe  That would explain alot. Because your DT differs from mine. Btw, how many suns have you there ? Are you talking about Öystein Malmsteen ? Honestly, I donīcare of any Malmsteen. And as for instrumental "shredding" I know many artists more interesting and better than DT. Have a great day there.
Edited by Son.of.Tiresias - October 16 2016 at 06:06 |
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You may see a smile on Tony Banksī face but thatīs unlikely.
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Cristi
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Posted: October 16 2016 at 06:05 |
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I'm not trying to be funny. If you don't like DT, that's fine, but calling it "masturbation", why? Simple question.
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Son.of.Tiresias
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Posted: October 16 2016 at 06:11 |
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And you donīt have any "masturbation" artists ? You donīt fool me. Say it loud. Simple question.
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Cristi
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Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 43545 |
Posted: October 16 2016 at 06:18 |
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Answering my question with a question... Nice! |
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micky
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Posted: October 16 2016 at 06:20 |
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yeah... I'd enjoy it just as much as I would sticking my dick into the meat grinder that is DT... the problems is you don't have fanboys of calling that particular brand of sadistic masturbation.. high musical art... it is the kind of sh*t that pimply faced pre-teens masturbate to before they discover the red heads of the musical world that will leave you a shrivled soulless husk of a man... yet leaving you begging for more.... |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Son.of.Tiresias
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Joined: October 23 2014 Location: Northern Hemisp Status: Offline Points: 441 |
Posted: October 16 2016 at 06:26 |
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You already know my opinion about. But you simple cannot answer mine. You must live in another world I wonīt waste my time with you anymore.
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You may see a smile on Tony Banksī face but thatīs unlikely.
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Cristi
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Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 43545 |
Posted: October 16 2016 at 06:35 |
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wow, I don't know what to do: laugh or feel insulted. Laugh it is.
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micky
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Posted: October 16 2016 at 06:40 |
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oh yes... the eternal PA's conundrum... laugh it off or pull out a gun....
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Son.of.Tiresias
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Joined: October 23 2014 Location: Northern Hemisp Status: Offline Points: 441 |
Posted: October 16 2016 at 06:49 |
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Metropolis is DTīs most mature and interesting work for sure. I donīt actually listen it anymore. Believe or not I once owned all the best DT albums (CDs and DVDs) recommended by a very good friend way back circa 15 years ago. DT was his "best" ever band. I really tried to get their thing/music but never did. Because of their neverending soloing, from ALL players who ALL are VIRTUOSOS as such, technically but NOT MUSICALLY IMO. Even the bass player gets soloing all the time, the bassist should concentrate on basic in music, the low notes that cement rhythm, for goodness sake ! And that bassist is not Chris Squire, not even close ! Music is much more than endless soloing. I sold all my DT albums and havenīt looked back ever since. I have three thousand albums so I wonīt waste my time anymore. Life is short.
Btw, Iīm NOT REALLY insulting anyone here on PA and I never get insulted. But sometimes man has to defend himself from direct hostility, hasnīt he. In general I mean. I just say what I really think. Like we all do, I think ? This is just music, no more no less. And for othersī opinions about music, art, social issues, politics, religions... I really donīt give a damn. Why on earth should I, especially when the other is totally opposite ?? It very seldom leads anywhere and is not constructive. And the singer, I just couldnīt stand his voice at all. All that dream theater hassle... what a bloody waste of time
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Cristi
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Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 43545 |
Posted: October 16 2016 at 06:59 |
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^ thanks for explaining I don't get it how you thought I was hostile; also, no one should find insulting when someone ask for an argument for their statements. Is asking someone to explain why they dislike a band such a big deal? Two DT albums I hardly ever listen to anymore are Systematic Chaos and Six Degrees (and it's usually the short ones, not the epic). SC is like an endless show-off. Still calling it "masturbation" is exaggerated IMO. Their last album was a huge disappointment, if they continue on this path, I'm kinda done with them. I will always love the Kevin Moore albums, for me they never got old. They never topped those albums if you ask me (unpopular opinion, I bet
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micky
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Posted: October 16 2016 at 07:04 |
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unpopular perhaps... but still the right one. No one should ever mistake the herd mentality for the correct one ...
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Son.of.Tiresias
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Joined: October 23 2014 Location: Northern Hemisp Status: Offline Points: 441 |
Posted: October 16 2016 at 11:01 |
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Wrong. I felt nothing hostile from you. Just get bored. You canīt threaten me because I donīt fear cats. On the contrary, cats are funny yet strange
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Cristi
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Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 43545 |
Posted: October 16 2016 at 11:08 |
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threaten? was never my intention.  |
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Son.of.Tiresias wrote:
LMAO - couldnīt have said it better