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Mr Smith
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Joined: September 27 2016
Location: NYC
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Points: 31
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Posted: October 06 2016 at 14:39 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Let's see. I find these to be the most overrated:
1 Karn Evil 9 - I was forced to listen to it once. The longest half an hour so far in my life. 2 - ... nothing comes close, not even more ELP Saperlipopette!]
im with you here, I think KE9 is overrated as a tune and ELP as a whole, I just don't get the attraction to this band I mean the musicians are good I just find the music tedious and soulless I don't even like lakes singing with KC and I'm a fan!
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Ne Plus Ultra
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Rednight
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Joined: January 18 2014
Location: Mar Vista, CA
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Points: 4807
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Posted: October 06 2016 at 14:50 |
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Devoncir
Forum Groupie
Joined: June 26 2016
Location: Brazil
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Points: 89
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Posted: October 08 2016 at 21:43 |
Dream Theater - infinite directionless "music" masturbation. Camel - sorry, canīt get into it, Itīs just OK like hundreds of OK bands. In the Court of Crimson King - Love KC, but donīt love this album, itīs just OK.
Edited by Devoncir - October 08 2016 at 21:47
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Son.of.Tiresias
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Joined: October 23 2014
Location: Northern Hemisp
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Points: 441
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Posted: October 12 2016 at 12:17 |
Devoncir wrote:
Dream Theater - infinite directionless "music" masturbation.
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LMAO - couldnīt have said it better
Edited by Son.of.Tiresias - October 12 2016 at 12:22
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You may see a smile on Tony Banksī face but thatīs unlikely.
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Cristi
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Crossover / Prog Metal Teams
Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
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Points: 43679
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Posted: October 12 2016 at 12:20 |
^ that's harsh
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CPicard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Lā, sui monti.
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Points: 10841
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Posted: October 12 2016 at 15:33 |
- Yes' CTTE is an ugly patchwork of so-so songs that the musicians thought to make it better by sticking them together. - King Crimson can't even record ONE song. I mean, you can't seriously call their pieces of noise "songs"? - Jethro Tull was a mediocre blues band and, all of a sudden, they tried to write progressive songs. And they failed. - ELP's best songs are on Pictures At An Exhibition. - Genesis? Don't hurt yourselves: go listen to the Beatles instead. - VdGG don't produce songs: their tracks are nothing but the soundtrack to Hammill's owl vocals.
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Magnum Vaeltaja
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Joined: July 01 2015
Location: Out East
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Posted: October 12 2016 at 20:37 |
CPicard wrote:
- Yes' CTTE is an ugly patchwork of so-so songs that the musicians thought to make it better by sticking them together. - King Crimson can't even record ONE song. I mean, you can't seriously call their pieces of noise "songs"? - Jethro Tull was a mediocre blues band and, all of a sudden, they tried to write progressive songs. And they failed. - ELP's best songs are on Pictures At An Exhibition. - Genesis? Don't hurt yourselves: go listen to the Beatles instead. - VdGG don't produce songs: their tracks are nothing but the soundtrack to Hammill's owl vocals.
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I can understand someone feeling that way about 21st Century Schizoid Man or Larks' Tongues In Aspic, but I'm not sure how one could possibly conflate I Talk To The Wind, Cadence And Cascade, Lady of The Dancing Water, Song of The Gulls, Islands, Book of Saturdays or Exiles as noise...
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when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents
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mechanicalflattery
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 08 2016
Location: Seattle
Status: Offline
Points: 1056
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Posted: October 12 2016 at 20:55 |
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
CPicard wrote:
- Yes' CTTE is an ugly patchwork of so-so songs that the musicians thought to make it better by sticking them together. - King Crimson can't even record ONE song. I mean, you can't seriously call their pieces of noise "songs"? - Jethro Tull was a mediocre blues band and, all of a sudden, they tried to write progressive songs. And they failed. - ELP's best songs are on Pictures At An Exhibition. - Genesis? Don't hurt yourselves: go listen to the Beatles instead. - VdGG don't produce songs: their tracks are nothing but the soundtrack to Hammill's owl vocals.
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I can understand someone feeling that way about 21st Century Schizoid Man or Larks' Tongues In Aspic, but I'm not sure how one could possibly conflate I Talk To The Wind, Cadence And Cascade, Lady of The Dancing Water, Song of The Gulls, Islands, Book of Saturdays or Exiles as noise... | Get him to listen to some musique concrete or japanoise and he'll be begging for the tight, focused songwriting of Moonchild or Providence
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Son.of.Tiresias
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 23 2014
Location: Northern Hemisp
Status: Offline
Points: 441
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Posted: October 13 2016 at 03:59 |
CPicard wrote:
- Yes' CTTE is an ugly patchwork of so-so songs that the musicians thought to make it better by sticking them together. - King Crimson can't even record ONE song. I mean, you can't seriously call their pieces of noise "songs"? - Jethro Tull was a mediocre blues band and, all of a sudden, they tried to write progressive songs. And they failed. - ELP's best songs are on Pictures At An Exhibition. - Genesis? Don't hurt yourselves: go listen to the Beatles instead. - VdGG don't produce songs: their tracks are nothing but the soundtrack to Hammill's owl vocals.
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Most is rubbish. Beatles are nursery GENESIS and "Moonchild" is all they could possibly dream of not only vocally. Greg Lake is one of the best vocalists in Rock. "Starless" and its crushing beauty is totally beyond their wildest dreams. Their stopped to perform for audiences already in 1966, I read. How stupid is that. They became a joke. And Martin Lancelot Barre can play the electric guitar and Ian Anderson plays both the acoustic guitar ans the flute brilliantly, he also sings well in his younger days (grin). Beatles never learned to play guitar solos, did they ?
CttE is very overrated, and I partly agree with that. My 7th or so fav Yes album btw.
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You may see a smile on Tony Banksī face but thatīs unlikely.
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CPicard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Lā, sui monti.
Status: Offline
Points: 10841
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Posted: October 13 2016 at 05:44 |
Wait, I have only begun! Stay tuned to read me complain about the songwriting of: Soft Machine; Caravan; Henry Cow; Mike Oldfield; Pink Floyd; Gentle Giant... Negativity has just started!
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Son.of.Tiresias
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 23 2014
Location: Northern Hemisp
Status: Offline
Points: 441
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Posted: October 13 2016 at 09:05 |
Lewian wrote:
doompaul wrote:
Golf Girl - Caravan |
Now appeared twice here already. Is there even anyone who takes this song seriously? I think it's fun; that's probably as high a rating as it gets.
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A very nice song, and brings very happy memories for me . She was such a lovely girl, but how can I forget her...
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You may see a smile on Tony Banksī face but thatīs unlikely.
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BaldJean
Prog Reviewer
Joined: May 28 2005
Location: Germany
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Points: 10387
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Posted: October 13 2016 at 09:23 |
anything by Rush
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Saperlipopette!
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 20 2010
Location: Tomorrowland
Status: Online
Points: 11632
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Posted: October 13 2016 at 11:46 |
CPicard wrote:
Wait, I have only begun! Stay tuned to read me complain about the songwriting of: Soft Machine; Caravan; Henry Cow; Mike Oldfield; Pink Floyd; Gentle Giant... Negativity has just started!
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As you've already written more than enough to both make a complete fool of yourself and made sure never to to be taken seriously again - there's really no need.
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rushfan4
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Joined: May 22 2007
Location: Michigan, U.S.
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Points: 66264
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Posted: October 13 2016 at 12:09 |
Anything in the Krautrock category.
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BaldJean
Prog Reviewer
Joined: May 28 2005
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 10387
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Posted: October 13 2016 at 12:18 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Anything in the Krautrock category.
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Krautrock and Rush really don't go along; you can either love one or the other
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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andreol263
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 28 2014
Location: Terra de Cabral
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Points: 790
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Posted: October 13 2016 at 12:34 |
I know some people may kill me for this...., but Camel is EXTREMELY BORING!, really, i can't get a count on how many times i tried to listen to the debut,Mirage, Snow Gnose and fall asleep, for me, the most interesting is the debut from these three. And other thing, yeah, i really like Hemispheres, 2112, Moving Pictures and some of their early works, but for me, the best album by them is Permanent Waves, and yes, it's not so progressive like Hemispheres or Farewell to the Kings and it can even be a little chessy(everything turns chessy with Lee's singing, oh god, i hate this man voice), but musically, it's the one that i like the most.
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mechanicalflattery
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 08 2016
Location: Seattle
Status: Offline
Points: 1056
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Posted: October 13 2016 at 12:40 |
CPicard wrote:
Wait, I have only begun! Stay tuned to read me complain about the songwriting of: Soft Machine; Caravan; Henry Cow; Mike Oldfield; Pink Floyd; Gentle Giant... Negativity has just started!
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So.... what prog groups do you actually like (given you're on a prog forum)?
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CPicard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Lā, sui monti.
Status: Offline
Points: 10841
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Posted: October 13 2016 at 12:49 |
mechanicalflattery wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Wait, I have only begun! Stay tuned to read me complain about the songwriting of: Soft Machine; Caravan; Henry Cow; Mike Oldfield; Pink Floyd; Gentle Giant... Negativity has just started!
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So.... what prog groups do you actually like (given you're on a prog forum)? |
ABBA and the Bee Gees. And ELO (who is superior to ELP).
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Cristi
Special Collaborator
Crossover / Prog Metal Teams
Joined: July 27 2006
Location: wonderland
Status: Offline
Points: 43679
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Posted: October 13 2016 at 13:29 |
^ you're having so much fun trolling
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CPicard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Lā, sui monti.
Status: Offline
Points: 10841
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Posted: October 13 2016 at 13:55 |
Cristi wrote:
^ you're having so much fun trolling |
Actually, not so much. In fact, I do that trolling thing only when I'm really, really angry, trigerred, irritated and ready to yell funny names to people writing "unpopular opinions" about "overrated songs". For a few days, I've read some declarations which baffle me and make me wonder if the whole forum isn't polluted with trolls more subtle than I. Since I can't and don't feel like going berserk about musical tastes discussions, I try to shut my big mouth and not say depreciative answers filled with uncouth words. But, as I still need to release some steam before I explode, I try to do it by trolling (and in a really poor way). Maybe I should show my true colours, but it would be the colours of a True Prog Fondamentalist saying to the forumites: "Thou shalt not speak bad about Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, ELP and the other Great Sacred Names of Progressive Rock or be ready to be stoned!"
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