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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2016 at 20:06
I prefer the record version of Living in the Past by Jethro Tull to the CD version, aside from the great band pictures there are songs on the album which do not appear on the CD.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2016 at 20:30
This is really a case by case dilemna. There are LPs that rule above their CD counterparts and vice versa. I wish all LPs ever created were available in the CD format so we could have this discussion about all music ever recorded but not such the case. THere are surely CDs that pale in comparison to their original recordings, CDs that far surpass and those that stand on equal grounds in no need of remastering because they were so deftly done in the first place. Too many examples to cite at the moment but many, many ,  many
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2016 at 02:53
like most of yous here I have a mix of vinyl`s/cd`s there are the pros and cons for both! but I prefer vinyl this maybe because through out my teenage years you only had Tapes, 8tracks or vinyl... 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2016 at 03:47
Originally posted by The misanthrope The misanthrope wrote:

I prefer the record version of Living in the Past by Jethro Tull to the CD version, aside from the great band pictures there are songs on the album which do not appear on the CD.


Actually there is the converse situation - as well as the above.

My LITP is the Jap replica LP version - very nice - and complete - sounds ok to me as well. There is, as you said the CD with omissions - recommend to avoid this. Now there is the CD version that is complete. I saw the latest vinyl version - it's complete but with only a standard slip type (CD replica... ha!) cover.

BTW the original CD of Songs From The Wood sounded like it was set in glue. The remaster is heaven. Tape dumped straight to CD is the bane of the CD experience. This is what is so often behind the cause of so much dissension, discussion and debate.

Likely scenario - a 2 DVD, 2 CD Steven Wilson remaster of LITP. The the rest of the Carnegie Hall material can get issued.

Caveat emptor as always.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2016 at 10:54
The CD and redbook will not get any better than what it is now. Within the audio world, there is no work being done to develop a better sounding CD, remember it is 16bit/redbook format, it will never get any better. Where the focus is on is high resolution files like 24bit and higher, DSD and the new MQA format.

Click on the MQA link if you like for a basic explanation......At the end of the day with some of these new/other formats you are looking at re buying your catalog, that is my main problem and why I will stick to records. I have not heard any MQA files yet, not sure when I will.

It has been a disappointment to me that digital audio has not been the end to all things music, there are so many issues still for the music listener and consumer with digital, let alone the CD itself....
Interesting if you are into audio gear......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2016 at 20:54
Makes me think.
You see, every track on Tales from the topographic oceans is a side-long track. The first track was originally 28 minutes long, but they had to cut 6 minutes from it because of the limitations of the LP format.
Kamasi Washington's debut album has a vinyl version. And Wikipedia says that the last side is 30 minutes long. Maybe it's one of those special vinyl record types created by Jack White, I don't know how did they manage to do that.
Even the CD comes with limitations. The Flaming Lips released a track called "I found a star on the ground", and that song is 6 hours long. The song was inside a memory stick. The band also released another track called "7 Skies H3", which is 24 hours long, they decided to put that song on a web stream, but the stream is dead now (I think) That song also was inside flash drives encased in real human skulls.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2016 at 07:02
In the late 90s I did a 'remaster' my self using a program called Pristine Sounds.
I had a really good audio card and a pretty nippy PC.
The program allowed you to visually edit .wav files. You could erase clicks and pops with the mouse.
Then you could do a low level noise reduction and finally Expand the dynamic range.
The results were pretty good.
So after spending hours 'remastering' my "Tales From Topographic Oceans", I was quite pleased.
About a month later I bought "Tales From Topographic Oceans" Remastered for about £5 in a record store.

The comparison was interesting......no different!
My 'remaster' was as good as theirs.

I now have a 24/192 HD copy of the album and its amazing!Embarrassed Good by 16BIT recordings.

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