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Weirdamigo
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 13:32 |
Abstrakt wrote:
And please, Stone Temple Pilots are not wannabees/posers/clones or whatever you wanna call them. They didn't even have anything to do with grunge. They are just a great rock band who happened to make it big at the same time that bands like Pearl Jam and Nirvana did. That does not make them Pearl Jam or Nirvana clones.
Listen to "Where the River Goes" from the "Core" album, and then tell me that they're no good!
To me, that song is like the "Kashmir" or "Stargazer" of the 90's! |
Stone Temple Pilots are a great band in my book . Although you have to say "plush" is a grunge song, at least to my ears. "Core" as a whole is more grunge than all of their later albums.
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Abstrakt
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 15:06 |
I wouldn't call "plush" grunge. The only song on CORE that is kinda grunge to me is "Sex Type Thing".
And yes, mother love bone are amazing! Like a mix of early Pearl Jam, Jane's Addiction & Guns n Roses. Am i wrong?
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 22:14 |
Abstrakt wrote:
I wouldn't call "plush" grunge. The only song on CORE that is kinda grunge to me is "Sex Type Thing".
And yes, mother love bone are amazing! Like a mix of early Pearl Jam, Jane's Addiction & Guns n Roses. Am i wrong? |
That's how I would sum up Mother Love Bone also. They are a real hidden treasure.
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The Truth
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 23:08 |
This is shrangi-la....
Old fav of mine.
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Abstrakt
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Posted: February 27 2011 at 06:14 |
Such a damn shame that Andrew Wood died. They would've made it big time in a year or two!
"Stardog Champion" & "Bone China" are my favorites
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DanthraX
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Posted: March 04 2011 at 18:43 |
I'm so happy that I found this poll! My two favourites Rock sub-genre... Love all those bands, except for Nirvana...
For me, Pearl Jam, Alice and Soundgarden!
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DaydreamNation
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Posted: March 05 2011 at 00:46 |
I dont know about being progressive, but when it came down to loud distorted guitars, dissonance, an aloof punkish attitude and cryptic lyrics, the pillars grunge was based on, the not mentioned sonic youth was the best of them (hint my screne name). I would say they were pretty progressive in an avant garde noise sort of way.
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MillsLayne
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Posted: March 05 2011 at 13:31 |
I went with Soundgarden in this one. They seem the proggiest of all the choices, then I'd say probably Chains. Soundgarden started out with a punk/heavy metal sound, but with parts of Badmotorfinger all the way through to Down On The Upside, major prog elements started to trickle in. Odd time signatures, longer songs, crazy "filler" instrumentals and some songs lacking any type of a typical song structure.
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davidk
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Posted: April 08 2011 at 20:54 |
The Quiet One wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Grunge is the genre that killed music.
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That's not in the options.
Grunge, for me, was a great revival of 70's hard rock with 80's metal influences. A great relief from weak metal genres like Power Metal and Glam Metal, and it's good to know that these were popular unlike other 90's stuff that was complete crap.
Though I know you just are an unshamed post-eighties-phobic. |
I agree with you! I think so many people try to act like grunge killed music, but it was stupid people trying to copy grunge and turn it into pop like Seether, and Nickelback that came later, and tried to make soft music with sh*t lyrics to appeal to poplovers, and in their opinion rock lovers at the same time. That however is not Grunge's fault. I once heard some idiot post on an Iron Maiden video that they saw in an interview Lady Gaga stating Iron Maiden was her favorite band in the whole world, so are we to blame such a good band as Iron Maiden for her? Hell no! Grunge may have some punk influences, but to me it is very much progressive. The whole idea of grunge was to have odd time signatures, and Soundgarden took it even further with experimenting a lot. Chris Cornell is also quite the amazing vocalist!
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stevotwain123
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Posted: April 20 2011 at 11:07 |
Have you guys heard of this band, www.shermanburns.bandcamp.com ? Definitely grunge oriented, but with obvious prog influences, they definitely don't have any reservations about showing it. I think the album is name your own price too. Or at least it was...
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digdug
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Posted: April 20 2011 at 11:34 |
love Soundgarden and Pearl Jam
STP and Nirvana are also pretty kool
Soundgarden would be the one that heads in the prog direction the most of the lot
but they are a long ways from prog to me
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: April 20 2011 at 12:10 |
Grunge is not a genre anyway.
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Posted: April 22 2011 at 23:56 |
Abstrakt wrote:
Such a damn shame that Andrew Wood died. They would've made it big time in a year or two!
"Stardog Champion" & "Bone China" are my favorites |
I agree, his death was a huge loss to the Seattle music scene. I was not even in kindergarten when those guys came out with "Apple," but that album resonates with me like few albums ever have. It is definitely one of my desert-island records, and totally essential for any collection as far as I'm concerned. I love all the songs they wrote, but my favorite would have to be "Stargazer." Just beautiful.
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Andy Webb
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Posted: April 23 2011 at 00:14 |
King's X, but from the list, Pearl Jam
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A B Negative
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Posted: May 05 2011 at 14:31 |
octopus-4 wrote:
Black Hole Sun is prog, IMO.
I don't think that Soundgarden are suitable for inclusion, but some of their songs are prog. |
Only Cat Butt are pure grunge.
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Posted: September 02 2011 at 10:22 |
Has everyone forgotten Screaming Trees? PJ if often proggy and the best.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: September 02 2011 at 10:32 |
I´m gonna say Nirvana. Kurt was obviously a very imaginative soul, and I think he would have pushed the boundaries, especially when you count in the fact what Dave Grohl has developed into - you´d be facing something completely different, if they had overcome their drug issues and kept playing that is. Reason to this is perhaps the odd cello usage in Live unplugged, Kurt´s all over the place riffing - yet somehow still sounding in tune, In Utero album - and furthermore those two other guys were into art and whatnot as well. The other groups mentioned here dwell more in the rock field, and I basically think that Nirvana would have surprised us, if we´d only have had the chance to see them do so.
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Necrotica
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Posted: December 09 2015 at 22:43 |
Andy Webb wrote:
King's X, but from the list, Pearl Jam |
Agreed about King's X, but I'd replace PJ with Soundgarden. I feel they may be suitable for inclusion to the site someday as "prog-related," if mainly because of Badmotorfinger and Superunknown.
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Cristi
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Posted: December 10 2015 at 00:38 |
King's X are NOT grunge.
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dr wu23
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Posted: December 10 2015 at 06:48 |
Cristi wrote:
King's X are NOT grunge.
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I agree......more like alternative prog metal....if that genre even exists.
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