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Kati 
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 Posted: November 11 2015 at 11:38 |
 dr wu23 wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
but I dislike the overall sound of prog metal. it is too clean. where is the dirt that is in my opinion necessary to make an album really heavy?
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Now.....what kind of 'dirt' are you referring to..? |
hahahaha! that wink alone lol Dr. Wu hahaha!!! 
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dr wu23
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Posted: November 11 2015 at 11:45 |
Kati wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
but I dislike the overall sound of prog metal. it is too clean. where is the dirt that is in my opinion necessary to make an album really heavy?
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Now.....what kind of 'dirt' are you referring to..? |
hahahaha! that wink alone lol Dr. Wu hahaha!!! |
Well...there are many kinds of dirt.  But I knew what she meant and I agree. People I know used to say that the Stones would sound better if their earlier stuff wasn't so dirty sounding . And I always responded that that was their charm and the muddy production sound was what made their rock n roll interesting and their trademark so to speak. For me the death growl vocals and the chug chug guitar sound are not pleasing to my ear but other types of prog metal especially the more melodic stuff is ok with me.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: November 11 2015 at 17:47 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Kati wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
but I dislike the overall sound of prog metal. it is too clean. where is the dirt that is in my opinion necessary to make an album really heavy?
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Now.....what kind of 'dirt' are you referring to..? |
hahahaha! that wink alone lol Dr. Wu hahaha!!! |
Well...there are many kinds of dirt. But I knew what she meant and I agree. People I know used to say that the Stones would sound better if their earlier stuff wasn't so dirty sounding . And I always responded that that was their charm and the muddy production sound was what made their rock n roll interesting and their trademark so to speak. For me the death growl vocals and the chug chug guitar sound are not pleasing to my ear but other types of prog metal especially the more melodic stuff is ok with me. |
I agree with ol' man Wu.
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TeleStrat
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Posted: November 11 2015 at 18:20 |
I do not like the death growl vocals but at the same time I want the vocals to be as heavy and gritty as possible. To me, there's no place for honey coated vocals in hard rock/metal, even on the ballads. I also prefer the screaming limited to occasional accent or emphasis. I never get tired of vocalist like Pepper Keenan from C.O.C./Down or James Hetfield.
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Pastmaster
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Posted: November 11 2015 at 22:58 |
TeleStrat wrote:
I do not like the death growl vocals but at the same time I want the vocals to be as heavy and gritty as possible. To me, there's no place for honey coated vocals in hard rock/metal, even on the ballads.I also prefer the screaming limited to occasional accent or emphasis. I never get tired of vocalist like Pepper Keenan from C.O.C./Down or James Hetfield. |
Both excellent singers! 
I like some prog metal bands, but I agree that it can sound too clean. Prog metal in a sense is like the new hair metal, it loses some of the grit that is part of the listening experience to a heavy band. Imagine a Black Sabbath album or a Slayer album with a squeaky clean production, wouldn't sound too good would it?
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Skalla-Grim
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Posted: November 12 2015 at 03:49 |
BaldJean wrote:
but I dislike the overall sound of prog metal. it is too clean. where is the dirt that is in my opinion necessary to make an album really heavy? |
I think I feel the same ... it often sounds too technically perfect, as if the smallest inaccuracy was corrected in post production. I wish the sound was more raw and crunchy.
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Rednight
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Posted: November 12 2015 at 10:43 |
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Because the term includes the word "metal." Also, to my ear, there's little subtlety. There's little to recommend it either although I've heard a few standout numbers. I'm sorry. I came up as a teenager during the '70s.
Edited by Rednight - November 12 2015 at 10:46
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condor
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Posted: November 12 2015 at 11:52 |
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Because they're wimps.
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Rednight
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Posted: November 12 2015 at 13:42 |
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Oh, that explains things.
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Opinions on why some don't like prog metal?