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Posted: October 30 2015 at 14:25

If your name was Maynard you'd be annoyed too.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 14:18

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Well, I have no idea what your claim to fame is, but it seems like you deserve your fanboys.

Did I say something to piss you off? I was only stating my experience with fanboys. If you can give me examples of nice fanboys, I'll be glad to change my opinion.

No, you didn't piss me off. I was merely saying that I didn't know what was the cause of your fans, fanboys and any other admirers, but that you probably deserve them.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 13:55

FWIW the prog rock groups with the most aggressive fans are in my experience Gentle Giant and Henry Cow, but in those cases it's coming from both groups being seen as never having reached the kind of audience they deserved. Also, that in Henry Cow's case there's the entire ideological aspect of the "Rock In Opposition" movement.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 13:23

The only fanboy I've met that sort of meets the criteria I've heard about regarding Tool's more obsessive fans is my sister. Back in the early 2000's I went to visit her after not seeing her for a few years, and she picked me up in her car and proceeded to blast Lateralus while explaining to me all this stuff about Keenan's interest in spirals and crap about about spiral religions and other mumbo-jumbo. Most of it I could hardly hear anyways since she was cranking the CD so loud. I liked the band too, but she almost ruined them for me for good that night. She had seen them well over ten times in concert, and A Perfect Circle in the double digits too.

Funny enough I had only seen Tool once, in early 1994 at a club in Boston, and my sister was brutally jealous about that once she became a rabid fan of them a few years later.

She never mentions MJK's other projects these days and her interest in Tool has certainly waned with the years going by with nothing new on the horizon.

Edited by Prog Sothoth - October 30 2015 at 13:25

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 13:22

People love Maynard and Tool for their "pretentiousness" until it finally bites them. He's been a charismatic jerk since day one. That said, his side projects aren't too good, and Tool have thrown away the past decade for reasons which have never been totally clear. Want people to stop asking about Tool? Then stop leading everyone on, telling people that this amount of a new album is finished - the "epic" is done...album should be out by January...how about a tour with no new material? How about five more over the next 7 years...we're writing like crazy...we're having legal problems. You guys are insufferable! Leave us alone! It's easy. Break up, shut up, or be a band again.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 13:16

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Same thing with belligerent fans of Dream Theater and Radiohead.

You should be banned for putting Radiohead in the same sentence with that abomination.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 13:05

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Well, I have no idea what your claim to fame is, but it seems like you deserve your fanboys.

Did I say something to piss you off? I was only stating my experience with fanboys. If you can give me examples of nice fanboys, I'll be glad to change my opinion.

You are entirely entitled to your opinion. Isn't that what this forum is all about? I enjoyed your post .It was nice to meet a fan as opposed to a fanboy. I'm a fan but not quite as big of one as you. I find Tool's appeal in their rhythmic instrumentation as opposed to MJK's sardonic wit.

Yup, everyone has their own opinion. Thanks, I really enjoy their rhythmic instrumentation as well, I love the bouncing ball effect made by the drums in 'Disposition'. Smile

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 13:01

I don't run into anywhere as many Tool fanboys/fangirls as I used to, so I'm sometimes mystified by people complaining about them. I still think it was probably more of a thing in the 1990s and 2000s.

Same thing with belligerent fans of Dream Theater and Radiohead.

Edited by Toaster Mantis - October 30 2015 at 13:03

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 12:39

Pastmaster wrote:

SteveG wrote:

Well, I have no idea what your claim to fame is, but it seems like you deserve your fanboys.

Did I say something to piss you off? I was only stating my experience with fanboys. If you can give me examples of nice fanboys, I'll be glad to change my opinion.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 12:21

SteveG wrote:

Well, I have no idea what your claim to fame is, but it seems like you deserve your fanboys.

Did I say something to piss you off? I was only stating my experience with fanboys. If you can give me examples of nice fanboys, I'll be glad to change my opinion.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 12:17

IIRC he just doesn't like the seriousness attached to the band.

He wants listeners to just enjoy themselves and listen to the band's music. He believes the humor that is in the band is completely ignored and gets drowned out by the darkness, dreary, seriousness by the fans and it has annoyed him over time.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 12:17

Well, I have no idea what your claim to fame is, but it seems like you deserve your fanboys.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 12:11

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Fanboys are over enthusiastic fans. Does that make them retards and insufferable? This is not Beatle mania that we are talking about.

It makes them insufferable, I've had many fanboys insult me for having different tastes and especially prog fanboys say how less complex music sucks. I think the definition of insufferable sums up fanboys pretty well. Out of the music world, Nintendo fanboys are probably the worst of the lot, insulting anything that isn't made by Nintendo.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 12:05

Fanboys are over enthusiastic fans. Does that make them retards and insufferable? This is not Beatle mania that we are talking about.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 11:54

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You forgot to mention when he called the fanboys retards and insufferable.

Fanboys are insufferable, it's simply a fact.

Anyways, I love Tool, they are one of my favorite bands, but I completely understand how the band could get annoyed. Sure, I want a new Tool album, but Maynard's other projects are also really enjoyable for me. After all, whining will get you nowhere, if anything fans whining will just prolong the album.

Also, being a fan is completely different from being a fanboy.

Edited by Pastmaster - October 30 2015 at 12:04

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 11:51

I guess the fanboys are like women who prefer men that abuse them. LOL!

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 11:50

Maybe if his other projects were as good as Tool people might prefer them as he does. His fans may annoy him but I'm sure their $$$$$ doesn't. He strikes me as being quite egotistical and conceited. Obviously, I'm no fanboy but I do have Lateralus and 10,000 days in my collection. I've seen them live at what is now the Santander arena in Reading, Pa. and they were good. I have since sold off the rest of my Tool collection along with other items in order to help finance acquiring a mobile fidelity recording of "Close to the Edge".

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 11:48

^Oh yeah, that too.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 11:46

You forgot to mention when he called the fanboys retards and insufferable.

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Posted: October 30 2015 at 11:20

Well, Tool do seem to be a bit full of themselves. I read where they gave a performance in a small venue and that no one in this audience was allowed to enter with cellphones or cameras, as the band was 'tired of being distracted' by them.

Edited by SteveG - October 30 2015 at 11:21