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Posted: August 10 2010 at 17:15
JLocke wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
Also Sprach Zarathustra, Blue Danube, 5th Beethoven Symphony (The Destiny), Orff´s O Fortuna (Carmina Burana) and many others popular classic pieces appears in lot of movies, advertisments and every key-signatures. Does it signify that these opuses are more commercial or less valuable than the others?
I never said anything of the sort. I simply said I can't stand Johann Strauss II as a composer. Why is everybody assuming that there must be some other factor? Why aren't I allowed to think that Johann Strauss II wrote crappy music? Is Classical music some kind of sacred thing that nobody is allowed to criticize on certain points?
I love Rock music, but that doesn't mean I have to adore every Rock band that ever existed. Sheesh.
I agree. Hate and irratation are, for the most part, emotional and irrational. Of course it's nice to provide some arguments on a forum, but that's never really been the point of this thread. Noone is obliged to like every single composer.
Johann Strauss II is the only composer that I really dislike. Practically all his compositions irritate me: I don't like the melodies, I find his music shallow, unemotional, and whatnot. Believe me, even the most perfect Strauss performance won't change that.
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 17:30
Damn. I never expected to see a thread about classical music turn int the atheist/theist thread...
By the way, please stop saying Also Sprach Zarathustra is "also known" as 2001:Space Odyssey. The work's ral and only name is Also Sprach Zarathustra, a tone poem composed by Richard Strauss. 2001: A Space Odyssey is a movie directed by Stanley Kubrick. Whoever knows a little about cinema and/or music will never refer to the music that opens the symphonic poem as "2001".
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 17:50
The T wrote:
Damn. I never expected to see a thread about classical music turn int the atheist/theist thread...
By the way, please stop saying Also Sprach Zarathustra is "also known" as 2001:Space Odyssey. The work's ral and only name is Also Sprach Zarathustra, a tone poem composed by Richard Strauss. 2001: A Space Odyssey is a movie directed by Stanley Kubrick. Whoever knows a little about cinema and/or music will never refer to the music that opens the symphonic poem as "2001".
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 18:47
Snow Dog wrote:
The T wrote:
Damn. I never expected to see a thread about classical music turn int the atheist/theist thread...
By the way, please stop saying Also Sprach Zarathustra is "also known" as 2001:Space Odyssey. The work's ral and only name is Also Sprach Zarathustra, a tone poem composed by Richard Strauss. 2001: A Space Odyssey is a movie directed by Stanley Kubrick. Whoever knows a little about cinema and/or music will never refer to the music that opens the symphonic poem as "2001".
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Posted: August 10 2010 at 22:08
The T wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
The T wrote:
Damn. I never expected to see a thread about classical music turn int the atheist/theist thread...
By the way, please stop saying Also Sprach Zarathustra is "also known" as 2001:Space Odyssey. The work's ral and only name is Also Sprach Zarathustra, a tone poem composed by Richard Strauss. 2001: A Space Odyssey is a movie directed by Stanley Kubrick. Whoever knows a little about cinema and/or music will never refer to the music that opens the symphonic poem as "2001".
Thank you.
Much obliged.
Hey, I'm not saying I think it should be called 2001, it's just that some people who aren't too knowledgable on music or cinema do.
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Posted: October 28 2015 at 19:31
I don't get the point of Webern at all. I mean some of the stuff I've heard (string quartets) have had their good moments, but overall it all feels very inconsequential and doesn't add up to much.
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Posted: October 29 2015 at 03:04
I know next to nothing on Classical composers - but the sheer pompousness of Carmina Burana choral work wants to make me puke - yet I love Magma, yet I have had a tough time for 20+ years accepting MDK as a 'masterpiece'........but I've heard about 17.5 seconds each of any of these historical composers...........
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Posted: October 29 2015 at 11:04
Ozark Soundscape wrote:
Schoenberg tests my patience, definitely, but out of his string quartets I've enjoyed a fair amount of it. Second quartet is pretty good imo.
I'll have to give that a listen. With Webern there are a lot of subtle things going on sonically. With Berg there were moments of tonality that made the atonal parts more bleak. I'm just not quite sure what Schoenberg was going for. I do have yet to listen to his Quartets though.
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Posted: October 29 2015 at 11:38
I don't hate any classical composer but most of Mozart's music is not really my cup of tea. It sounds kind of empty and meaningless to me. I think many like Mozart's music for its serenity but I find that rather in Beethoven's and Schubert's early symphonies. I like Mozart's Requiem and Magic Flute, though.
For example this music is often compared to Mozart, but unlike Mozart is has so much warmth and life in it.
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Posted: October 29 2015 at 11:46
Ozark Soundscape wrote:
I don't get the point of Webern at all.
I don't understand - he was a core of the Second Viennese School and had significant influence on a lot of 20th century avant-garde composers. Now, if you don't like his stuff, no problem, but he very much "had a point".
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