No problem Tim, I can throw the destruction of bicameralism onto the pile.

I'll read the book Tim, but it's another theory that no one can prove.

Tim, critique and criticism of Janyes's theory  will go on long after we're dead. When Jayne's theory becomes a fact, I will acknowledge it.

Edited by SteveG - October 26 2015 at 15:12

All theories are valid to me, Tim. Unfortunately, that's what you don't understand.

Absolute belief in one theory makes as much sense to me as a belief in one true deity, one true religion, one universal truth...are you enlightened yet?

An absolute belief in a single theory or idea is what causes wars, kills countless thousands, etc. etc. etc.

Perhaps, if you hold both our government, religion, sport steam and your government, religion and sports team to be equally scrutinized and not take either one at face value as being better or believed in, as you put it, this would not be a problem.

Most likely but would not any strategy be a belief 

timothy leary wrote: Most likely but would not any strategy be a belief

Yes, not believing could be construed as a belief. But what I'm referring to is not trusting, which is different from belief. I seek empirical data to support a claim, not an argument to support a belief in a claim.

Edited by SteveG - October 26 2015 at 16:37

Once upon a time in a land far, far away, a wise person or persons whose identity(ies) is (are) lost to the ravages of time came up with an explanation for the who, what, how, and why of our existence.  This explanation of a diety or dieties to explain the way things worked which might have begun as early as the days of the caves has been passed on through the travails of time in many forms and formats resulting in a number of different surviving beliefs.  Whilst any of the beliefs throughout time are as valid or as invalid as any others, the ones that have survived until modern day are those that were held by the conquerors; as it is the conquerors who get to write the account of history.  Maybe it was God's will that these were the conquerors or maybe it was dumb luck.  Either way, what exists to this day is what exists.  The "beauty" of it is that until such diety or dieties reveal themselves to us as proof that they do exist it can neither be proved nor disproved that he/they don't exist.   You either have faith or you don't.  And to this day, it is still an answer to the who, what, how, and why of our existence....for those who choose to accept it.