Who is your favourite revolutionary?

Dean wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: Nothing says revolutionary like abandoning your own family and country to collect welfare somewhere else And your proof of this is?

The United Nations Refugee Agency reported last week there were 72 per cent men, 13 per cent women, and just 15 per cent children making the trip to Europe. This was out of a total of 381,412 people, meaning that 274,616 of those making the trip were men, with just 49,583 women, and  57,211 children.
Updated numbers now show 69% men, though these numbers of course suffer from the problem I mention below - they are based on accepted asylum-seekers, not total migrants. 

Eurostat report showed 75% of migrants are male, 80% under 35 years old.

Of the migrants living in the tent city in Dresden, for instance (erected over a bulldozed city park, btw), 79.3-per-cent are men, 12.4-per-cent are women, and 8.3-per-cent are children.

Eurostat reports only 1/5 migrants are from Syria - i.e. most are not refugees.  The UN numbers are intentionally misleading (as mentioned above), they only give demographics for people accepted for asylum (which are 54% Syrians).

Top 5 nationalities crossing Mediterranean into Europe

German authorities report that most asylum seekers claim to be from Syria, but many of those are not.  Same with Greece and Serbia.

Harder to find specific welfare & govt assistance statistics because leftist governments would rather keep it hushed up, but here are some from the Netherlands by country of origin.  In Sweden the 15.1% made up by immigrants make up 60.5% of the entire welfare costs for the nation, according to statistics published by The Swedish Social Insurance Agency and The National Board of Health and Welfare (sorry lost the link, should be google-able)

Migrants leave Denmark in favour of Sweden, because the former "doesn't give them enough benefits"
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Migrants consider Austria and Hungary unsuitable because they don't get free food, education, and houses like in Germany

Many migrants drawn by welfare in Northern Europe

After 10 years, only 60% of immigrants to Sweden are employed.  The corresponding figure for native-born Swedes is 85%.






Edited by Triceratopsoil - September 23 2015 at 16:26

Triceratopsoil wrote: Harder to find specific welfare & govt assistance statistics because leftist governments would rather keep it hushed up, but here are some from the Netherlands by country of origin.  In Sweden the 15.1% made up by immigrants make up 60.5% of the entire welfare costs for the nation, according to statistics published by The Swedish Social Insurance Agency and The National Board of Health and Welfare (sorry lost the link, should be google-able)

Except that if you look at second generation non-western immigrants in the NL, they actually receive less welfare than the average 'original'(can't think of the proper word right now) Dutchman.

You may say they're not immigrants but they're at least mostly a direct, evidently positive, consequence of immigrants, your opinion is comparable to getting bags of money smacked into your face before you get to take them home, and you quit because you don't want your face to hurt.

In the way that according to the numbers, they very likely do more work than they demand in income from the state, even compared to the average inhabitant, besides the fact that cultural diversity is simply fun and the fact that we have used our wealth to actually improve the world beyond our own borders by helping those who are less fortunate, which satisfies our moral.

Well a culture is never pure, it's just a collection of jokes characterizing people from the same social and natural environments, so no egg yolks are being torn open, it's really just one basic drink mixing with another.

Oh, well if you say so...

A number of points: young men are probably the most mobile, therefore the most likely to try and immigrate beyond the borders of the countries they are fleeing (trying the same trip with small children is very much more difficult). I haven't seen the figures myself, but it is not surprising if most of the migrants are male and under 35%.

10 generations.  My Scottish side has been here longer than Canada was a nation.

"Xenophobia" is a leftist canard to shut down discussion. Tribalism is natural behavior that has deep roots in evolutionary psychology; it is only not allowed if you live in a first-world country, apparently

Triceratopsoil wrote: 10 generations.  My Scottish side has been here longer than Canada was a nation. "Xenophobia" is a leftist canard to shut down discussion. Tribalism is natural behavior that has deep roots in evolutionary psychology; it is only not allowed if you live in a first-world country, apparently.

Triceratopsoil wrote: What impact do you think millions of muslim and catholic imports from 3rd-world nations will have on western values like, for instance, freedom of speech & women's rights?