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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2015 at 12:45
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Please update you demagogie, Steve.
The world you're struggling to spell and convey is Demagogue. The definition for it is as follows:
 
dem·a·gogue
[ˈdeməˌgäg]

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  1. a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.
    synonyms: rabble-rouser · agitator

 
It's ironic that you don't understand the one word that describes yourself perfectly. If you're not dense enough, or appalled, please take a long look at yourself in a mirror. You will easily see a person who also can't comprehend what a rational argument is.

He could also be trying to spell Demagoguery, which is an appeal to people that plays on their emotions and prejudices rather than on their rational side.

But frankly, chimpanzees pounding their knuckles into the keyboard can misspell all manner of words.
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Diddn't read the thread, voted for Gurdjieff.
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Points: 13626 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2015 at 12:51
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Please update you d<span id="result_" lang="de" ="short_text"=""><span ="hps"="">emagogie, Steve.</span></span>

The world you're struggling to spell and convey is Demagogue. The definition for it is as follows:
 <div ="b_focustextmedium="" dc_truncate="" b_clearfix"="">dem·a·gogue<div ="dc_prn"=""><div ="b_hpanel"=""><span>[ˈdeməˌgäg]</span><span><div id="DictAudioD1">[URL=javascript:void%280%29" rel="nofollow]<div ="sw_play="" cipa="" vat"="" -="audioplay]<span style="display: none;]<audio controls="]</audio></span>[/URL]</span><div ="dc_pds"="">
<div ="dc_st"=""><h4>NOUN</h4>
<span ="dc_bld"=""><div ="dc_pd"=""><ol ="b_dlist="" b_indent"="">
  • <div ="dc_nml"=""><div ="dc_pm"=""><div ="dc_mn"="">a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.<div ="b_factrow"=""><div ="dc_synb"=""><span ="cbl="" b_lower"="">synonyms:</span> [URL=http://www.bing.com/search?q=define+rabble-rouser" rel="nofollow]rabble-rouser[/URL] · [URL=http://www.bing.com/search?q=define+agitator" rel="nofollow]agitator[/URL]
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    <div ="dc_pm"=""><div ="b_factrow"=""><div ="dc_synb"=""> <div ="dc_synb"="">It's ironic that you don't understand the one word that describes yourself perfectly. If you're not dense enough, or appalled, please take a long look at yourself in a mirror. You will easily see a person who also can't comprehend what a rational argument is.

    </span>

    He could also be trying to spell Demagoguery, which is an appeal to people that plays on their emotions and prejudices rather than on their rational side.

    But frankly, chimpanzees pounding their knuckles into the keyboard can misspell all manner of words.


    If I were said chimpanzee, I would, right now, be contacting Messrs Sue, Grabbit, and Runne to sue you for the most appalling piece of libel ever witnessed on the intertit.

    Quite honestly, an amoeba pissed as a fart would have more political acumen than our Serbian comrade.

    On that note, I am off to a party now. I very much hope to be as pissed as said amoeba by the time I am finished later. A newt will do, though
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    Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

    Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

    Please update you d<span id="result_" lang="de" ="short_text"=""><span ="hps"="">emagogie, Steve.</span></span>

    The world you're struggling to spell and convey is Demagogue. The definition for it is as follows:
     <div ="b_focustextmedium="" dc_truncate="" b_clearfix"="">dem·a·gogue<div ="dc_prn"=""><div ="b_hpanel"=""><span>[ˈdeməˌgäg]</span><span><div id="DictAudioD1">[URL=javascript:void%280%29" rel="nofollow]<div ="sw_play="" cipa="" vat"="" -="audioplay]<span style="display: none;]<audio controls="]</audio></span>[/URL]</span><div ="dc_pds"="">
    <div ="dc_st"=""><h4>NOUN</h4>
    <span ="dc_bld"=""><div ="dc_pd"=""><ol ="b_dlist="" b_indent"="">
  • <div ="dc_nml"=""><div ="dc_pm"=""><div ="dc_mn"="">a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.<div ="b_factrow"=""><div ="dc_synb"=""><span ="cbl="" b_lower"="">synonyms:</span> rabble-rouser · agitator
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    <div ="dc_pm"=""><div ="b_factrow"=""><div ="dc_synb"=""> <div ="dc_synb"="">It's ironic that you don't understand the one word that describes yourself perfectly. If you're not dense enough, or appalled, please take a long look at yourself in a mirror. You will easily see a person who also can't comprehend what a rational argument is.

    </span>



    that about sums up the thread.. 
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    Points: 2223     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2015 at 13:02
    ^ it does sum up the thread, but it's been a fun rollercoaster ride while it lasted.
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    Points: 10213     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2015 at 13:03
    Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

    Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

    Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

    Communism didn't existed yet, Evil Socialism is destroyed, but who cares? The fruits of that export of Democracy you can see everywhere now...
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Quote Wikileaks has obtained and decrypted this previously unreleased video footage from a US Apache helicopter in 2007. It shows Reuters journalist Namir Noor-Eldeen, driver Saeed Chmagh, and several others as the Apache shoots and kills them in a public square in Eastern Baghdad. They are apparently assumed to be insurgents. After the initial shooting, an unarmed group of adults and children in a minivan arrives on the scene and attempts to transport the wounded. They are fired upon as well. The official statement on this incident initially listed all adults as insurgents and claimed the US military did not know how the deaths ocurred. Wikileaks released this video with transcripts and a package of supporting documents on April 5th 2010 on http://collateralmurder.com 
    In what bleeding universe do two wrongs make a right? Evil is Evil. Killing is Killing.
    One evil is not better than another! Do you understand this?
     
    Please update your demagogy, Steve.
    Oh Steve, sorry for terribly misspelled word.
    But you understand my point, do ya?
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    Points: 2223     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2015 at 13:09
    ^ no. you have no point.
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    ^ LOL



    Edited by dr wu23 - September 19 2015 at 13:17
    One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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    Points: 10213     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2015 at 13:19
    Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

    ^ no. you have no point.
    Oh, Steve hired another lawyer.
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    Clap dr. wu!
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    Points: 2223     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2015 at 13:20
    Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

    Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

    ^ no. you have no point.
    Oh, Steve hired another lawyer.
     
    Steve does not employ me or direct my actions. I am quite happy to insult you for free and under my own initiative.
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    Points: 10213     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2015 at 13:40
    Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

    (...)




    Ouch

    The last ones are the only dangerous.
    Les mascotas del Capitalismo?


    Edited by Svetonio - September 19 2015 at 13:40
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    Points: 19535     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2015 at 14:31
    Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

    Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

    (...)




    Ouch

    The last ones are the only dangerous.
    Les mascotas del Capitalismo?

    We are pets of nobody 

    We have some lunatics as anywhere.

    BTW: Since when is Nazism related with capitalism?

    I have proved here that Nazism is a left wing movement.

    Here you can read some of the 25-point Program of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei 

    10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all. Consequently we demand:

    11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.

    12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

    13. We demand the Nationalization  of all (previous) associated industries (trusts)

    14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

    17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

    20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbürgerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

    22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army


    But this one is eye opening

    25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the Landers The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.

    Change Landers for Soviets, and you have the Communist manifesto





    Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - September 19 2015 at 14:43
                
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    Points: 24429     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2015 at 14:46
    Ivan, being left-wing does not mean being in support of totalitarianism, genocide and other such things. Remember that there are substantial differences between Europe (where I am from) and the Americas, especially South America. No left-wing movement in modern Europe (unless we are talking about minority outliers) is anywhere in favour of any of the things listed in the Nazi manifesto.

    One thing, however, is true: far-right movements in Europe, in terms of economic policies, are much more similar to the far left than to laissez-faire capitalism (which they abhor). Where they diverge is in terms of social policies, especially regarding immigrants and gays - and, of course, in their ingrained anti-Semitism.


    Edited by Raff - September 19 2015 at 14:46
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    "Left" and "right" are almost as meaningless descriptors as "liberal" and "conservative" nowadays.
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    Points: 18016     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2015 at 14:55
    Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

    and, of course, in their ingrained anti-Semitism.


    Antisemitism is nowhere near as prominent as Israel/ADF/UN/etc would like everybody to believe, anywhere in world except maybe the middle east and some parts of Asia and continental Africa.

    Also I have yet to see a valid argument for why anti-immigration stances are supposed to be a bad thing.  The economic reasons alone are significant, not even getting into e.g. crime statistics or demographic replacement.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

    Edited by Triceratopsoil - September 19 2015 at 14:57
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    Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

    Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

    Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

    Please update you demagogie, Steve.
    The world you're struggling to spell and convey is Demagogue. The definition for it is as follows:
     
    dem·a·gogue
    [ˈdeməˌgäg]

    NOUN

    1. a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.
      synonyms: rabble-rouser · agitator

     
    It's ironic that you don't understand the one word that describes yourself perfectly. If you're not dense enough, or appalled, please take a long look at yourself in a mirror. You will easily see a person who also can't comprehend what a rational argument is.

    He could also be trying to spell Demagoguery, which is an appeal to people that plays on their emotions and prejudices rather than on their rational side.

    But frankly, chimpanzees pounding their knuckles into the keyboard can misspell all manner of words.
    Yes, I was thinking of listing both definitions but I thought his head might explode from too much information. 
    Hmm. Perhaps that was a mistake. Ermm
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    Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

    Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

    and, of course, in their ingrained anti-Semitism.


    Antisemitism is nowhere near as prominent as Israel/ADF/UN/etc would like everybody to believe, anywhere in world except maybe the middle east and some parts of Asia and continental Africa.

    Also I have yet to see a valid argument for why anti-immigration stances are supposed to be a bad thing.  The economic reasons alone are significant, not even getting into e.g. crime statistics or demographic replacement.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
     
    Actually, there was a discussion on NPR this morning that stated that economists, for the most part, agree that immigration has a positive effect on the economy.
     
     
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    Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

    Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

    and, of course, in their ingrained anti-Semitism.


    Antisemitism is nowhere near as prominent as Israel/ADF/UN/etc would like everybody to believe, anywhere in world except maybe the middle east and some parts of Asia and continental Africa.

    Also I have yet to see a valid argument for why anti-immigration stances are supposed to be a bad thing.  The economic reasons alone are significant, not even getting into e.g. crime statistics or demographic replacement.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
    In my opinion it was wrong of us to gas 6 billion jews so it's only fair we make up for it by helping them deal with the infidels.
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    Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

    ^ LOL

    An absolute classic! LOLClap
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