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dr wu23 
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 Posted: September 13 2015 at 16:41 |
Hmm...from some of the comments here about what the PE members have said it seems they are even more prog rock snobs than us. I get a sense of fun and all manner of interesting threads here and not just about prog only. From perusing PE it seems a bit uptight to me and kind of self important. Or am I missing the vibe there..?
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Sean Trane
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 02:36 |
 dr wu23 wrote:
Hmm...from some of the comments here about what the PE members have said it seems they are even more prog rock snobs than us.I get a sense of fun and all manner of interesting threads here and not just about prog only. From perusing PE it seems a bit uptight to me and kind of self important. Or am I missing the vibe there..? |
Agreed with the first part... Part jokingly, of course, but PE'ers love to joke about themselves being the snob's snob in the knighthood of progginess.
As said before, the vibe is different over there, but uptight is really not a word I'd use to describe PE's.
Self-importance is another matter, however: the general answer on the "Is Prog better due to PA/PE?" (started by PE owner Sean, after seeing the question posed here) have certainly more assertive (positive) than here, but maybe they didn't catch the subtlety or "loadedness" of the question
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Kati
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 02:49 |
Sean Trane wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Hmm...from some of the comments here about what the PE members have said it seems they are even more prog rock snobs than us.I get a sense of fun and all manner of interesting threads here and not just about prog only. From perusing PE it seems a bit uptight to me and kind of self important. Or am I missing the vibe there..? |
Agreed with the first part... Part jokingly, of course, but PE'ers love to joke about themselves being the snob's snob in the knighthood of progginess.
As said before, the vibe is different over there, but uptight is really not a word I'd use to describe PE's.
Self-importance is another matter, however: the general answer on the "Is Prog better due to PA/PE?" (started by PE owner Sean, after seeing the question posed here) have certainly more assertive (positive) than here, but maybe they didn't catch the subtlety or "loadedness" of the question
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I have not posted much on PE forum, however I did often frequent their radio chatroom, 2 years ago, while we all listened Gagliarchives :) I honestly never took anything personal and once people get used to you they are really nice even to me with all my flaws. On PE they do have a good sense of humour and seem to always be able receive it right back from me thus I have no complaints, I have to say that my experience at start was less dodgy compared to on here at PA (I am completely at home here now and more than PE btw). Anyway, I do like PE a lot, also like all the members I have encountered so far on there too. Hugs to you all  .
Edited by Kati - September 14 2015 at 02:53
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UMUR
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 06:48 |
BrufordFreak wrote:
. Just got tired of always feeling as if members were treating me and my inferior knowledge with impatience, intolerance, and sarcasm.
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Exactly why I donīt visit PA that much anymore. So I guess itīs not only PE that has that problem...
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Kati
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 06:53 |
UMUR wrote:
BrufordFreak wrote:
. Just got tired of always feeling as if members were treating me and my inferior knowledge with impatience, intolerance, and sarcasm.
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Exactly why I donīt visit PA that much anymore. So I guess itīs not only PE that has that problem... |
I think you both are misunderstood and also misunderstand others. People are grumpy by nature this is a fact, but either way you two should not give up, I didn't and God knows I was completely misunderstood here on PA, PE not so much to be honest although I did not frequent it very much, thus PA can be very grumpy too. I simply ignore that and actually started to like the grumpies even more than other members lol they very so funny and witty lol  Any this topic is about PE, and I like PE.
Edited by Kati - September 14 2015 at 06:54
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verslibre
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 10:20 |
Kati wrote:
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Sounds like a rap group. 
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Kati
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 10:23 |
verslibre wrote:
Kati wrote:
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Sounds like a rap group. |
hahaha yes Versible, so funny hahahaha now you reminded me of that 80's rap band Naughty by Nature
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Kati
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 10:40 |
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hahahaha I love those wobbly goats they make me smile everytime I see one of your posts lol hahagha I love them Nogbad_The_Bad, hahaha you made me laugh now hahaha big hug to you
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Kati
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 10:46 |
PESean wrote:
Hey all!
Sean from PE here. I was searching for some old stuff about PE
on Google today and ran across this fresh stuff so I thought I would sign up
for the first time and say Hi! I want to thank any and
all of you that take the time to frequent PE.
I have always felt it was a good prog two-fer with PA and I am glad many
of you agree. And for those of you that
dont, I can totally understand and I wish you the best regardless! It amazes me that PE & PA continue to endure these days despite the likes of other social networks like FB, Twitter, etc. It shows that people still need places to go deep with subjects rather than spit out short little bits like you do on those sorts of sites. Glad we can still be a part of your lives some 15+ years on even in this social network dominated world.
-Sean/Founder
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Hello Sean, It is great to see your post above here on PA, it is really awesome :) in terms of PA as a site too. Thank for all you said, loved it, you are so lovely and a big hug to you xxxx
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 12:52 |
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Personally I think that groups that have been together for extended periods of time develop methods of communication that can appear to be rude & condescending to those outside the group. Over the years everyone gets familiar with each other, and in the case of PE a lot of us have met face to face at festivals, what looks hostile in plain text on a website is in fact friendly back and forth. All it takes is time and patience and you are soon in the middle of the muck and bullets with the rest of the members. I personally think that's true of both sites but maybe more so for PE given its smaller and older demographic of regular posters.
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progrockdeepcuts
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 14:03 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Personally I think that groups that have been together for extended periods of time develop methods of communication that can appear to be rude & condescending to those outside the group. Over the years everyone gets familiar with each other, and in the case of PE a lot of us have met face to face at festivals, what looks hostile in plain text on a website is in fact friendly back and forth. All it takes is time and patience and you are soon in the middle of the muck and bullets with the rest of the members. I personally think that's true of both sites but maybe more so for PE given its smaller and older demographic of regular posters. |
For the life of me, I still can't figure out what about PE is cliquish. Maybe that's just a sign I'm hopelessly a member of the clique.
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SteveG
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 14:06 |
Hmm..could be...could be. 
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dr wu23
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 14:07 |
Well....I need to read through more threads there but I find these at PA to be more ....fun. Maybe I'm missing something there.
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SteveG
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 14:10 |
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Actually all I've seen so far are their threads with members bashing PA. I also need to look deeper.
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Raff
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 14:19 |
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It would be nice if there were more women on PE. There used to be a few in the past, but they seem to have dropped off the radar. Now the forums are overwhelmingly masculine, and often not in a good way.
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progrockdeepcuts
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 14:35 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Well....I need to read through more threads there but I find these at PA to be more ....fun.
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Okay, with that in mind - I find the threads on PE to generally be of greater interest to me, whereas there are more threads here that seem kind of 'fluff'. Not to imply there aren't 'fluff' threads on PE (there are), there just seem to be less of them. Also, it's been awhile - but it seems when I start a thread, or anyone starts a thread, on a modern band here that isn't well known, the thread sinks, while at least on PE you can expect a page / page and a half before it succumbs to the Genesis threads! 
Raff wrote:
It would be nice if there were more women on PE. There used
to be a few in the past, but they seem to have dropped off the radar.
Now the forums are overwhelmingly masculine, and often not in a good
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Perhaps you should come out from the shadows and represent!! 
Edited by progrockdeepcuts - September 14 2015 at 14:36
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 14:44 |
Raff wrote:
It would be nice if there were more women on PE. There used to be a few in the past, but they seem to have dropped off the radar. Now the forums are overwhelmingly masculine, and often not in a good way.
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Fewer than PA? wow.
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SteveG
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 14:46 |
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^Hmm. Seriously, it's not easy for someone to step into a lions den alone, if that's how he or she views the site. That's why there's always strength in numbers.
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rushfan4
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 14:47 |
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Are you calling the ladies' restroom a lions' den?
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SteveG
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Posted: September 14 2015 at 14:49 |
Ahh, it may be those kinds of jokes that put raff off from PE.
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