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Posted: August 23 2015 at 00:16

Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Back off Kati NOW man, show some respect. She's a gem.

or what, you'll call the forum police on me. lol gtfoh

Edited by Nickname420 - August 23 2015 at 00:17

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 00:32

Up the Downstair - I remember Burning Sky literally having a different ending. Must have been tripping bad.

That was CRAZY...

I was on acid - the psych Porcupine Tree I listened to during that time was probably the most musically memorable.

Edited by fudgenuts64 - August 23 2015 at 00:32

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 00:56

Try listening to the long track by Curved Air (off the 'Second' album) - Pice Of Mind. Pretty hectic - I'd swear that some wreltchy synth in the background of the manic bit before it mellows out sounded like a big cat roaring - l'll never forget that. Or Tony Banks' ARP solo in Slippermen with his portamento going. Ultra-trippy. Or the mellotron swells in Salmacis.

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 00:58

Nickname420 wrote:

Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Back off Kati NOW man, show some respect. She's a gem.

or what, you'll call the forum police on me. lol gtfoh

talking drugs on a forum always opens a can of worms. Keep it real, mahn. You're supposed to be 'chill', eh ??

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 01:58

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come to think of it - most Prog..........
Try some Zeuhl, but I found it too oppresive and dark.

Yup, I'd even say most 60's & 70's music (not just prog) is excellent to be heard under Mary Jane's influence.

As for Zeuhl, I only find Magma's music oppressive (and even then, mostly only MDK)

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Not meaning to make an apology about marijuana, smoking weeds certainly opened my ears and mind when it came to music (and other activities of life). I'd hate to think about what kind of sickeningly straighto I'd be if I hadn't tried it three or four times before finally "feeling something" (and that first time was kind of brutal, but in such a lovely way).

However, living during the week in The Netherlands for the last 12 years were the stuff is legit , I find that I don't even get the urge to toke anymore. Last time I went toa coffee shop was probably two years ago. I guess I grew out of it.

Can't say that alcohol brings a plus for listening to music.
Outside LSD (with its obvious psychotropic effects), I haven't tried other kinds of drugs enough to be definitive about the interest of listening to music while under the influence.
Certainly, I don't find poppers interesting. Speeders (including coke) in general decrease the attention span and patience in general, so the few times I tried them, I must say it was inconclusive. TBH, I don't find speeders good for me.... or even good for the health (mental or physical)

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That's neat LOL

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 02:29

Nickname420 wrote:

No one cares about your sobriety, we came here for good music to jam to stoned. Not a bunch of pathetic diatribes about how strong willed you are and how your better than those that smoke. Go elsewhere please, leave this for those that can relate you condescending egotists, thinking your so great drinking water with flouride and ingesting god knows what. That's for those littering this thread with irrelevance. Some Caravan, Roy Harper, Uriah Heep, early floyd as Moosehead has mentioned are dope to jam too.

Ok, if I can advocate the entertainment of marijuana influence to isten to music, or even create/compose music, persobally, all the experiences I've had in playing music under influences are very mised.

While it's interesting to jam (sometimes produces interesting ideas), it's relatively counterproductive to actually record music (especially complex music like prog) while very high (a light buzz is OK, though). All to often, the one muso that is high tends to think he was great, but generally the others are generally unimpressed (accuracy issues and stuff) by his performance. I mean sure plenty of albums were recorded under drugs influences, but I'm not sure they couldn't have pulled it off better if they had abstained from it during the actual recording stages. Doing it afterwards during production stages could be interesting again, because f the creative asoects of using the studio as an instrument

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Tom Ozric wrote:

Nickname420 wrote:

Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Back off Kati NOW man, show some respect. She's a gem.

or what, you'll call the forum police on me. lol gtfoh

talking drugs on a forum always opens a can of worms. Keep it real, mahn. You're supposed to be 'chill', eh ??

Just because I'm Canadian does not mean ill tolerate bullsh*t from anyone, especially you cornballs. And my realness speaks for itself. I might be vulgar but I stand by what I say. It opens a can of worms everywhere in life, it wouldn't be so bad if you and everyone else didn't have such distorted views about "drugs" you can't distinguish synthetic drugs from entheogens or stoners from junkies. Get out of your white-washed mentality and smell what's left of the roses, no wonder my generation has to fix your damn mistakes.

Dude, you're not having a good start here.

Tom is right. Back off Kati (or anyone else FTM, with the aggressive behaviour), or it's not going to happen long here for you.

As for being Canadian, I'm kind of surprised that two of them (both newbies that appear to have joined us just for this thread) are being aggressive about dope. Though both of you appear to ,be on opposite ends of the spectrum about use of psychtropics, it doesn't mean you can't be courteous.

I'm not sure how in recent years debates about ths issue went, but in the early years (ten years ago), they were heated as well, and threads were a regular occurence. sure things got heated, but if nausayers (it's their absolute right to be so) can't advocate it and discuss it intelligently, they should abstain from entering the debate. Apparently you're not a naysayer, so why get upset here??

Having lived almost 20 years in Canada (from age 10 to 29, during the 70's & 80's), that's where I personally got into drugs, and I had a bloody good time at it, and can only thank Canada for that excellent experience in general.

Edited by Sean Trane - August 23 2015 at 03:09

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 02:38

Great post Hugues.

(Although weed isn't drugs!)

“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 03:07

Guldbamsen wrote:

Great post Hugues.

(Although weed isn't drugs!)

men to that!! LOL

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 03:23

Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Back off Kati NOW man, show some respect. She's a gem.

Yes. Kati is worth 10 of almost anyone else on this forum because she's unfailingly kind and polite.

I HATE drugs. I've seen the damage they do - they absolutely devastated a friend of mine - I've never taken them and never would. I have too much respect for my health. I don't even drink much any more; just a few pints of real ale every now and then.

If you know and accept the risks and decide to use, that's fine by me, so long as you don't drive under the influence. It's a free world. But don't be so rude as to criticise those who choose not to.

To answer the question: Hawkwind, early Floyd, Caravan and The Enid.

A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life.

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 03:26

Nickname420 wrote:

Tom Ozric wrote:

Nickname420 wrote:

Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Back off Kati NOW man, show some respect. She's a gem.

or what, you'll call the forum police on me. lol gtfoh

talking drugs on a forum always opens a can of worms. Keep it real, mahn. You're supposed to be 'chill', eh ??

I've always likes the Canadians I've met, but you seem like an exception: a very rude, arrogant young man.

I suspect you'll be attracting the attention of the moderators soon and I would not be unhappy if you were removed.

Grow up.

Edited by Hercules - August 23 2015 at 03:27

A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life.

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 04:11

Hercules wrote:

Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Back off Kati NOW man, show some respect. She's a gem.

But don't be so rude as to criticise those who choose not to.

Exactly my point, They do effect other people badly. I know personally but please this type of stuff is killing the buzz of the thread. 'I HATE DRUGS', don't you hear yourself. Caffeine is a drug, tobacco is a drug, We get our medicine from the DRUG store, you are all hypocrites. I get you guys are older but we all have our roads to go through. I am only arrogant because you guys have set such a bad example for the children growing up in this dysfunctional society. I am not criticizing those that choose not too, big difference. I'm criticizing those that insist on promoting their sobriety to feel superior. Just because you smoke does not make you weak, just like being too fat or skinny.

Edited by Nickname420 - August 23 2015 at 04:12

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 04:21

^ But dude, we're not promoting sobriety/superior AT ALL. What some of us are saying is that we've moved on from that. You probably will too. Like yourself, I used to think my sh*t doesn't stink, but I've 'grown up'. This thread is about MUSIC. Progressive (and otherwise) - sure many folks steer clear of drugs, but no-one is saying you're douche for doing whatever it is you do. Just enjoy your 'self', and let others enjoy them 'selves'. Oh, and MUSIC. It's all about the MUSIC.
Have a nice day

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 04:33

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This isn't the first forum I've been on but damn you guys are old and emotional. Can someone stay on topic or come up with a logical and constructive argument. I only mentioned I was Canadian because the last guy was possibly implying I was Canadian. I don't care who you are, I don't take sh*t from anyone. I'm not here to make new friends, I have a life outside the internet. It's just sad and funny to see you guys get so emotional this, I'm not attacking anyone directly. In my books respect is not demanded, it is earned and so far I have no respect just like you guys have shown which make you no better.

We're talking about decency and respect for other people's views, something soo basic ant two that you apparently have no idea about both concepts.

another basic fact you've got wrong, is that as a stranger, initially you've got my respect (almost automatically), so you can only lose it. And you've done a pretty fast job of losing it (some five hours after after you've joined). Only Wallace (your friend maybe) has managed to do that quicker.

I bet you have no idea about recent cannabis debates because it is corrupted like everything in this fake world or else you would have a more profound outlook. At this point in society were not rebelling the system, we need to change it all together. Now we have Monsanto as the face of "marijuana legalization", but that is no where close to what the problem actually is. At least you guys got to live out your "hippie ages" because it's gone and overrated to us. Smoking herb does not stop your day unless you stop your day. Many use herb as a crutch to be lazy and act out the caricatures of being high. It's more psychological then a physical addiction like opiates. Don't lecture me about this or spread propaganda. Like we should keep it, can we stay on topic and not be judged or lectured and let the people that like listening to music while smoking herb talk about that. I'm not upset, I'm just pushing it because you guys get hurt so fast and you're unbelievable ignorance, if your gonna spew bullsh*t expect to be criticized.

If I spoke about no idea about how recent debates about drugs went, I meant this for ProgArchives' case, because until recently, I was mostly away for a couple of years from this forum, so I didn't follow what was said here.

I tend to agree with you when it comes to pot. It can only hurt you if you let it hurt you. I never had such good grades in as in Uni (overall average of 80% >> despite only having only 60% in Calculus >> damn Fourrier series and Laplace transformations), and I was a total smokehead at the time. We used to toke during our blocus time, studying for each term's exams... and man, that was much better than those sickly amphets others took just to stay awake. If you apply yourself while stoned, one can produce little wonders. So yeah, most naysayers have no idea of what they talk about, simply because they've never tried it.

BUT, that does not excuse your tone and temper. Apparently, you joined this ship only to partake this debate, most likely, you won't go much further IF you keep going in this direction

Edited by Sean Trane - August 23 2015 at 04:53

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 04:35

Tom Ozric wrote:

You probably will too. Like yourself, I used to think my sh*t doesn't stink, but I've 'grown up'.
Have a nice day

C'mon bud, you might be old but definitely not grown up. We all learn everyday. I know my sh*t stinks, but the stench is nothing to how bad this world smells. I wish I can live in ignorance but I refuse to lose hope. for now if no BS I can move on to other business.

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 04:39

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We're talking about decency and respect for other people's views, something soo basic ant two that you apparently have no idea about both concepts.

another basic fact you've got wrong, is that as a stranger, initially you've got my respect (almost automatically), so you can only lose it. And you've done a pretty fast job oflosing it (some five hours after after you've joined). Only Wallace (your friend maybe) has managed to do that quicker.

Leave my bud out of this, he has nothing to do with what I said. Again stop assuming.

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 04:43

Nickname420 wrote:

Sean Trane wrote:

We're talking about decency and respect for other people's views, something soo basic ant two that you apparently have no idea about both concepts.

another basic fact you've got wrong, is that as a stranger, initially you've got my respect (almost automatically), so you can only lose it. And you've done a pretty fast job oflosing it (some five hours after after you've joined). Only Wallace (your friend maybe) has managed to do that quicker.

Leave my bud moosehead out of this, he has nothing to do with what I said. Again stop assuming.

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 04:56

Nickname420 wrote:

Sean Trane wrote:

We're talking about decency and respect for other people's views, something soo basic ant two that you apparently have no idea about both concepts.

another basic fact you've got wrong, is that as a stranger, initially you've got my respect (almost automatically), so you can only lose it. And you've done a pretty fast job oflosing it (some five hours after after you've joined). Only Wallace (your friend maybe) has managed to do that quicker.

Leave my bud out of this, he has nothing to do with what I said. Again stop assuming.

Sooooo, Wallace is your buddy!?!?

Not assuming anything here, just reading what you wrote

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 05:04

Sean Trane should've eased Nickname's gripe, he appealed to both sides.

He gave his views and experience with weed (which I certainly do agree on the majority of it). While listening to music is a satisfying experience, writing/recording music under the influence is another story. It's an irritating process, because ideas come and go so quickly, that anything comprehensive just... doesn't come!

Good post Trane Thumbs Up

And Nickname.. You may have not come here to make friends, but don't completely eliminate it as a possibility!!

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 05:23

For the clever folks on this thread - nice job derailing the topic from music suggestions to a drugs debate. You know who you are. Bravo

Now, in-keeping with the topic, try Landberk or Dungen. Even though I listen to them with a clear mind, I wish they were around back in the day.

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Posted: August 23 2015 at 05:26

Sean Trane wrote:

Nickname420 wrote:

Sean Trane wrote:

We're talking about decency and respect for other people's views, something soo basic ant two that you apparently have no idea about both concepts.

another basic fact you've got wrong, is that as a stranger, initially you've got my respect (almost automatically), so you can only lose it. And you've done a pretty fast job oflosing it (some five hours after after you've joined). Only Wallace (your friend maybe) has managed to do that quicker.

Leave my bud out of this, he has nothing to do with what I said. Again stop assuming.

Sooooo, Wallace is your buddy!?!?

Not assuming anything here, just reading what you wrote

Nay, i don't know who he is. Just moosehead.

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