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twalsh
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Topic: Is Camel a metal band? Posted: May 04 2015 at 11:34 |
I went to the local metal music shop here in Vancouver and saw much of what one would expect; everything from old school Iron maiden, Black Sabbath, Burzum, Cinderella and pretty much all metal subgenres including a lot of prog metal. I picked up TesseracT's Altered State, Pain of Salvation's Linoleum, and Riverside's Rapid Eye Movement. The store manager was playing something from Kamelot, I'm not sure which recording, that sounded pretty good as well.
The strange part of this store was the presence of nonmetal prog, some hidden, some not. The Jethro Tull Box set placed in a high visibility spot and bands such as Marillion, Transatlantic and Camel mixed in with the metal, nevermind the advertisement for the Magma show last month. I'm not complaining, as there are few independent music stores that sell CDs I like, but kind of odd!
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More heavy prog, please!
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 11:37 |
Years ago, at the Virgin Megastore in Paris, I found both Transatlantic and Spock's Beard in the Metal section, so I wouldn't be too surprised if also Camel found their way there ...
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twalsh
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 11:41 |
Ha ha. So I'm not alone. I forgot that I also saw Spock's Beard in there. This is an independent store though, so I can only assume the inclusion was intentional rather than ignorance, which I can see more likely in a megastore.
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More heavy prog, please!
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 11:44 |
It hasn't changed. I still find my prog in Paris in Death Metal boxes.
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 11:47 |
If it's not jazz, classical, or pop hits, it's metal. Too many categories can be oh so confusing.
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 12:01 |
We have a local chain down here in Australia called JB Hifi, and although their prog pickings are few and far between, TWICE I've come across Renaissance under heavy metal! Mind you, I've also found Magenta, Kaipa and Mostly Autumn there as well! The `Metal' section is really just a dumping ground for prog artists that don't include the big bands like Yes, Genesis, ELP, King Crimson, etc, which are always under `Popular' One good thing that comes from this - generally all these prog albums sit untouched for months in the metal section, Joe Average has no idea what the albums are, so eventually they're marked down to a fraction of their original price, and I'm more than happy to snap them up, either for my own collection, or to pass on as gifts to friends.
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 12:14 |
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible.
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 12:26 |
Some people think any distorted guitars make it metal.
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Pastmaster
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 12:49 |
I've seen Pink Floyd at the metal store near me, but other then that the rest is all hard rock or obviously metal. Some would argue that King Crimson shouldn't be in there, because I've seen that, but King Crimson certainly had their heavier albums that lean towards hard rock.
Edited by Pastmaster - May 04 2015 at 12:54
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 13:10 |
My record store has a pretty large prog/krautrock section. Curiously they put Yes, ELP, pink floyd, Mike oldfield and a few other big name bands in the 'classic rock' section, but Genesis and Camel still get to sit in the prog section. I'm not sure if there is a method to the madness
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Pastmaster
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 13:23 |
^I think the reasoning for that is you will hear bands like Yes and Pink Floyd on classic rock radio stations. A band can be classic rock and progressive rock at the same time.
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 13:35 |
A camel has hair...so would be categorized as Hair Metal......
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 13:45 |
But Camel is also a cigarette brand, so it also qualifies as death metal
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twalsh
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 14:03 |
Now envisioning a fire-breathing metal snow goose!
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More heavy prog, please!
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 14:29 |
Progosopher wrote:
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible. |
In fairness to Tull, the actual Grammy category was Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, and the look on the faces of Metallica when they lost was well worth the win for whatever category it was.
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Smurph
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 14:46 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
Progosopher wrote:
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible. |
In fairness to Tull, the actual Grammy category was Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, and the look on the faces of Metallica when they lost was well worth the win for whatever category it was. |
1000% agreement
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 14:56 |
Smurph wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
Progosopher wrote:
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible. |
In fairness to Tull, the actual Grammy category was Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, and the look on the faces of Metallica when they lost was well worth the win for whatever category it was. |
1000% agreement |
This, times ten.
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 14:58 |
Progosopher wrote:
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible. |
The subject line sounded insane to me, but you have now put this into perfect context. Thank you
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Pastmaster
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 15:01 |
sublime220 wrote:
Smurph wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
Progosopher wrote:
If Jethro Tull can win the Grammy for best heavy metal album, then anything is possible. |
In fairness to Tull, the actual Grammy category was Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, and the look on the faces of Metallica when they lost was well worth the win for whatever category it was. |
1000% agreement |
This, times ten. |
I don't agree, while it may have been hard rock/heavy metal and I like both Tull and Metallica, I still think Metallica should have won.
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 15:17 |
if only they had been.....
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