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Posted: April 19 2015 at 15:58
richardh wrote:
^ I'm really hammering my credit card at the moment BUT I must have this! The Thing is one of my favourite films and Carpenter's soundtrack work is good in that and fact is generally excellent.
Dude, you are going to go nuts over this album! ALL of it is that good! There's also a nice 8-minute track that's proggier than anything I've previously heard from Carpenter. Anyone that is into electronic music, period, should own this album. It's cheap, too!
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Posted: April 19 2015 at 14:47
^ I'm really hammering my credit card at the moment BUT I must have this! The Thing is one of my favourite films and Carpenter's soundtrack work is good in that and fact is generally excellent.
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Posted: April 05 2015 at 10:33
Kati wrote:
Thus Rick Wakeman is not prog either? (Exc. YES Band)
Wakey has recorded some albums I'd definitely include under the banner of EM, like 2000 A.D.–Into The Future, Themes and The Family Album.
The same for Goblin and Claudio Simonetti, who are prog rockers, but the music they composed for Phenomena, Opera, and Il Cartaio is entirely electronic, with the addition of drums here and there.
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Posted: April 05 2015 at 10:30
Vangelis has certainly composed/recorded electronic music, and many EM fans do consider him a part of the genre. I think his reach extends a bit further because he's a multi-instrumentalist and also records with acoustic piano, bass guitar and real drums.
Around 10-15 years ago, rap and hip-hop artists started wising up and using real bands for their instrumental backup — live, at first, then on their albums. I think the Beastie Boys started that trend even further back when they surprised everybody by performing as a rock trio, though they did also continue to use samples and electronics.
richardh wrote:
It certainly does . The synth is a massive part of the genre although like all genres (or sub genres) it gets a bit stale.
That's how I felt at the tail end of the 80s and early 90s when the Yamaha DX-7's, Roland D-50s, Korg M1's and Kawai K1's had run roughshod over the landscape. Of course, it wasn't the fault of the machines, but the fault of their users. While Tangerine Dream had fallen into the trap, Mark Shreeve somehow evaded it. He has great sounds on all his records.
As long as the composition is interesting and the sound don't seem to emanate from the stock soundbank of some cheesy synth, the music will be good. Of course, nowadays even the lowest-priced workstations are equipped with far better quality sounds than the low-enders that Korg, Kawai and Casio peddled in the 80s and 90s.
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Posted: April 05 2015 at 03:26
richardh wrote:
It certainly does . The synth is a massive part of the genre although like all genres (or sub genres) it gets a bit stale. Then you have artists that create their own stuff and defy labels. Annoying buggers!
hahahaha Richardh, true however i.e. pop and hip hop artists they do not necessary make much or any use of synths, most of their music is bass orientated anyway (studio not bass guitar btw) while completely lacking in instrumental band based music. And techno music is equally software made, not by a synthesizer.
Overall synths do play sometimes a major role in prog music
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Posted: April 05 2015 at 03:14
It certainly does . The synth is a massive part of the genre although like all genres (or sub genres) it gets a bit stale. Then you have artists that create their own stuff and defy labels. Annoying buggers!
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Posted: April 05 2015 at 03:03
I personally believe that electronic music belongs in prog, all play part in music, we all know that all notes already have been played/invented anyway, thus all depends now in ingenuity and music arrangements really.
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Posted: April 05 2015 at 03:02
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richardh wrote:
^Vangelis isn't classified as Progressive EM so it would appear no.
I have this vague idea in my head that EM is meant to be music that comes directly from the synth not music that is composed separately and then synths are used instead of an orchestra. So turning on a sequencer and building music around it becomes electronic music. That said I'm not sure that Vangelis Spiral album could not be considered EM.
Thus Rick Wakeman is not prog either? (Exc. YES Band)
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Posted: April 05 2015 at 02:55
richardh wrote:
^Vangelis isn't classified as Progressive EM so it would appear no.
I have this vague idea in my head that EM is meant to be music that comes directly from the synth not music that is composed separately and then synths are used instead of an orchestra. So turning on a sequencer and building music around it becomes electronic music. That said I'm not sure that Vangelis Spiral album could not be considered EM.
Thus Rick Wakeman is not prog either? (Exc. YES Band)
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Posted: April 05 2015 at 02:50
^Vangelis isn't classified as Progressive EM so it would appear no.
I have this vague idea in my head that EM is meant to be music that comes directly from the synth not music that is composed separately and then synths are used instead of an orchestra. So turning on a sequencer and building music around it becomes electronic music. That said I'm not sure that Vangelis Spiral album could not be considered EM.
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Posted: March 25 2015 at 10:22
This thread needs to be bumped (so does the Tangerine Dream thread), and I'll use the opportunity to pass along the word that a new CD reissue of Catspaw, the 1986 album by the US progressive electronic duo Emerald Web (1979-1990), was released this month.
Catpsaw is one of Emerald Web's softer albums, but great music nonetheless. If you enjoy albums like Tangerine Dream's Optical Race and Eddie Jobson's Theme of Secrets, this belongs in your collection. What's really cool about the reissue are the five early '80s bonus tracks, all of which have a different, darker flavor. Emerald Web had a very unique sound, with their synthesizers and sequencers complemented by an array of flutes and Lyricon wind synthesizer (and on certain albums, electric guitar and guitar synthesizer).
Listen to the entire album at this link (you can also order it there, directly from the label):
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Posted: March 07 2015 at 00:17
libertycaps wrote:
So. What do y'all think? I'd say:
Kraftwerk
Cluster
Harmonia
Are 3 stellar & influential bands to start with and go from there...
Klaus Schulze - X Fripp & Eno Cluster - Sowiesoso Constance Demby - Set Free Iasos - Inter-Dimensional Music Kraftwerk Jean-Michel Jarre Edgar Froese - Metropolis
- Music is Life, that's why our hearts have beats -
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 10:41
Guldbamsen wrote:
^The opening cut on that album is brilliant. Berlin school on coffee and amphetamine - in a hurry with frenetic drums and a fiercely paced sequencer. Possibly the fastest moving track of the genre methinks.
Have a listen to those Shreeve tracks. I think you'll like them.
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richardh wrote:
Thus Rick Wakeman is not prog either? 
(Exc. YES Band)
