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Joined: May 25 2011
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Posted: March 19 2015 at 12:01
Davesax1965 wrote:
"You're making an assumption that there was no rock music of any kind in the 1930's "
Yes, a common assumption here on Planet Earth. I believe Rocket 88 came out in March 1951 and is regarded as the first rock and roll song by some....... R&B, really.
I thought it was still debatable when rock n' roll started. Don't we have a history of progressive evolution of the genre over time ?
Joined: January 18 2014
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Posted: March 19 2015 at 14:43
Dayvenkirq wrote:
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Davesax1965 wrote:
"</span><span style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;">You're making an assumption that there was no rock music of any kind in the 1930's "</span><div style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;"><span style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;"> </span><div style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;"><span style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;">Yes, a common assumption here on Planet Earth. I believe Rocket 88 came out in March 1951 and is regarded as the first rock and roll song by some....... R&B, really.</span><span style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;">
I thought it was still debatable when rock n' roll started. Don't we have a history of progressive evolution of the genre over time ?</span>
JACKIE BRENSTON & HIS DELTA CATS: "rocket 88", 1951 ...
Joined: July 31 2014
Location: Australia
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Posted: March 19 2015 at 19:57
Love Rush .. I think of Peart us a drum God ... same as Portnoy .. but I fully believe it was Phil Ehart (Kansas) that put the "true" rock beat in Prog music best. ... now debate me
Joined: July 20 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ USA
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Posted: March 19 2015 at 23:40
This was amazing 70's prog drumming....Pat Mastelotto, Gavin Harrison, and Bill Rieflin with King Crimson's last tour. I saw Bruford with LTIA era KC, these guys had it nailed! (It took three drummers to equal one Broof, and some Jamie Miur!)
Joined: November 07 2014
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Posted: March 20 2015 at 03:23
cstack3 wrote:
This was amazing 70's prog drumming....Pat Mastelotto, Gavin Harrison, and Bill Rieflin with King Crimson's last tour. I saw Bruford with LTIA era KC, these guys had it nailed! (It took three drummers to equal one Broof, and some Jamie Miur!)
Indeed. Initially, I was skeptical that 3 drummers might possibly be 'gimmicky.' But trust
was rewarded. Their interplay, at least in the Los Angeles shows, was like telepathy and choreography. A singular experience, as was Bruford in the '80s. I give Fripp a lot of credit as arranger to make this trio shine.
Joined: May 23 2013
Location: UK
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Posted: March 22 2015 at 12:15
RLRR LRLL
I shall commit heresy. I find Neil Peart very fast and accurate, but pretty staid.
Compared to Ian Paice.
The 40 rudiments of drumming are here, by the way. Triple ratamacue, anyone ? (Not me ! :-) )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drum_rudiment
Trouble is, a LOT of kids just buy a drum kit. They learn a few rudiments and then just go thuddy thud thud thud thud thuddy crash. There are some good modern drummers to be seen here and there, but the general standard is pretty bad.
I do hope a lot of younger musicians start to really listen to the masters of old. Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa et al. Here's something to get your ears around - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu1teeixmpw
Joined: March 19 2015
Location: Canada
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Posted: March 22 2015 at 21:22
As good? That's a tough one to qualify. How do you define good? It's too subjective for there to be an accurate answer, but one thing is common to all good musicianship: that what is played is appropriate and complements the material around it. One of the things that makes Peart do great is that despite his great creativity and inventiveness, nothing ever sounds like it doesn't fit in. Same can be said for Geddy's bass playing - busy as hell, but always perfect for the song.
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