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Posted: January 30 2015 at 09:25
My avatar says something i guess. Metal is a huge genre in itself. I've seen some people here who r like, "i'll vote against every metal band i come across on the forum." Maybe they cud find something to their liking if they patiently explore metal-related genres like they did wid their other beloved genres. Tastes are subjective. But tastes do change.
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 11:36
Back when I started listening to prog I didn't like metal at all, but the transition came naturally, first with bands that can be more categotized as Heavy Prog, like Rush, Dream Theater, Tool and Porcupine Tree. Now, although I prefer rock and jazz, Opeth is one of my very favorite bands, along with King Crimson, Yes, Banco, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Maneige, Le Orme, PFM, Rush, etc. Though they're the only metal band I consider as one of my favorites.
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 11:58
Riitiir is a great album. Probably my favorite by Enslaved.
I guess I never defined myself as a full-fledged metalhead though currently I'm having Dodheimsgard's "Supervillain Outcast" blasting through my headphones.
I just started listening to rock that was interesting, and slowly started listening to more and more metal bands that did things that were "out there". I never really grew up on Iron Maiden or Metallica or something, but these days I'd say a very fair percentage of the music I listen to could be considered metal in one way or another.
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 12:34
Polymorphia wrote:
TradeMark0 wrote:
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">Some might argue how metal has adopted influences from other genres of music such as Baroque, Free jazz, and 20th century classical music, but I have personally found all of those genres to be a more rewarding listen than metal. </span>
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">Which metal have you check out by the way, in terms of the baroque, free jazz, modern classical kind?</span>
The majority of metal music is influenced by baroque music. This is even more apparent with symphonic and neoclassical metal. Most of the technical innovations made in "experimental" metal can be attributed to to free jazz and 20th century classical music.
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 14:23
TradeMark0 wrote:
Polymorphia wrote:
TradeMark0 wrote:
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">Some might argue how metal has adopted influences from other genres of music such as Baroque, Free jazz, and 20th century classical music, but I have personally found all of those genres to be a more rewarding listen than metal. </span>
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">Which metal have you check out by the way, in terms of the baroque, free jazz, modern classical kind?</span>
The majority of metal music is influenced by baroque music. This is even more apparent with symphonic and neoclassical metal. Most of the technical innovations made in "experimental" metal can be attributed to to free jazz and 20th century classical music.
I was asking about bands in particular. Metal is a diverse genre, so I can't tell whether the metal you've experienced that's supposed to be interesting is Yngwie Malmsteen, Riverside, Opeth, Kayo Dot, or Sunn O))). All very different artists.
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 15:00
It's total Übermensch music.
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 15:13
it's good times music man... music is for the heart.. not the brain..
when it is Friday evening and you want to get revv'd up before you hit the town. Psyching yourself to drink everyone and anyone under the table, to kick ass and take names, and at the end of the evening.. leaving the bar with a pretty blond tossed over your shoulder.. you don't put on f**king Genesis... you put on METAL!!
you put on RATT dude.
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 16:58
In my musical tastes I know where I draw the line between Hard Rock and Heavy Metal.
On the Heavy Metal Music page at Wiki eleven sub genres are listed as well as eighteen fusion genres.
I know that critics, writers of reviews and magazine articles like to dissect and categorize everything.
Is it necessary to go this far?
The first year the Grammys included a heavy metal category it was won by Jethro Tull when most fans expected it to go to Metallica. Obviously, the insiders that vote (and nominate) were unclear about the new category.
The next year Metallica did win and Lars Ulrich began his acceptance speech with, "First of all, we would like to thank Jethro Tull for not releasing an album this year."
Do we really need all of these categories and sub categories and on and on?
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 17:41
Polymorphia wrote:
TradeMark0 wrote:
Polymorphia wrote:
TradeMark0 wrote:
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">Some might argue how metal has adopted influences from other genres of music such as Baroque, Free jazz, and 20th century classical music, but I have personally found all of those genres to be a more rewarding listen than metal. </span>
<span style="line-height: 1.4;">Which metal have you check out by the way, in terms of the baroque, free jazz, modern classical kind?</span>
The majority of metal music is influenced by baroque music. This is even more apparent with symphonic and neoclassical metal. Most of the technical innovations made in "experimental" metal can be attributed to to free jazz and 20th century classical music.
I was asking about bands in particular. Metal is a diverse genre, so I can't tell whether the metal you've experienced that's supposed to be interesting is Yngwie Malmsteen, Riverside, Opeth, Kayo Dot, or Sunn O))). All very different artists.
I have listened to all of those. Opeth and Kayo Dot used to be my favorite metal bands. I should of mentioned that when I was into metal I explored every inch of it.
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 18:17
micky wrote:
it's good times music man... music is for the heart.. not the brain..
when it is Friday evening and you want to get revv'd up before you hit the town. Psyching yourself to drink everyone and anyone under the table, to kick ass and take names, and at the end of the evening.. leaving the bar with a pretty blond tossed over your shoulder.. you don't put on f**king Genesis... you put on METAL!!
you put on RATT dude.
I see what you mean. I have always been more attracted to music for the brain. Even when I was into metal, I went for the more unconventional bands. I guess metal just wasn't for me.
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 18:29
I don't listen to much of the stuff, but the bands I do listen to, I really like - Black Sabbath, some of Ozzy's solo stuff, Judas Priest, Motörhead, AC/DC and Dio-era Rainbow (do the latter two count as metal?). Also been looking to get into some more of Iron Maiden's material (I only have Number Of The Beast).
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Posted: January 30 2015 at 18:44
Walton Street wrote:
I take metal with a grain of salt.
some of it is fun, but I've always found that it takes itself way to seriously.
(my exposure - my experience)
I love Ramstein because it's tongue in cheek .. but i'm betting it's too commercial to be considered metal these days.
I have a lot of what used to be considered metal - ACDC was metal at one point .. but 'metal' seems to keep evolving into something harder and faster, and there's so many subgenres of it
mostly I just think it's funny.
lots of hair, lots of noise, lots of posturing.
You've never heard bands like Psychostick. They are my friends because they have songs about DOGS!!!!
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