ELP

threefates:

If you post my picture, I'll deny it's me!!   Besides, how could you prove it?  You could anyone's picture and say it's me, right? 

Peace.

James:

Where'd you get those photos!!   Even my "control" doesn't have those!!!

Peace.

ELP are the second greatest prog band after the Nice. Genesis, Yes and the rest linger a long way behind. All good musuicians, some good songs but i'd rather cut my legs and arms off than listen to a whole Genesis or Yes album. At least ELP were showmen who were the top musicians of their time, Genesis were middle class twats who were legends in their own toilets, Yes were a bit better. And as for the prat who thinks Rush are prog...get a grip and take more prozac.

tangerine62 wrote: ELP are the second greatest prog band after the Nice. Genesis, Yes and the rest linger a long way behind. All good musuicians, some good songs but i'd rather cut my legs and arms off than listen to a whole Genesis or Yes album. At least ELP were showmen who were the top musicians of their time, Genesis were middle class twats who were legends in their own toilets, Yes were a bit better. And as for the prat who thinks Rush are prog...get a grip and take more prozac.

Just a shame that ELP were a bunch of pretty boys, pathetically attempting to make some sophisticated music, and failing miserably. Sure they put a good show - they had to compensate for the horrible music.

Styx > ELP.

flowerchild wrote: Poxx wrote: tangerine62 wrote: ELP are the second greatest prog band after the Nice. Genesis, Yes and the rest linger a long way behind. All good musuicians, some good songs but i'd rather cut my legs and arms off than listen to a whole Genesis or Yes album. At least ELP were showmen who were the top musicians of their time, Genesis were middle class twats who were legends in their own toilets, Yes were a bit better. And as for the prat who thinks Rush are prog...get a grip and take more prozac. Just a shame that ELP were a bunch of pretty boys, pathetically attempting to make some sophisticated music, and failing miserably. Sure they put a good show - they had to compensate for the horrible music. Styx > ELP.

I think they should get some credit (along with Yes) for being the biggest prog band ever (along with Yes) regardless of their music.

Poxx wrote: tangerine62 wrote: ELP are the second greatest prog band after the Nice. Genesis, Yes and the rest linger a long way behind. All good musuicians, some good songs but i'd rather cut my legs and arms off than listen to a whole Genesis or Yes album. At least ELP were showmen who were the top musicians of their time, Genesis were middle class twats who were legends in their own toilets, Yes were a bit better. And as for the prat who thinks Rush are prog...get a grip and take more prozac. Just a shame that ELP were a bunch of pretty boys, pathetically attempting to make some sophisticated music, and failing miserably. Sure they put a good show - they had to compensate for the horrible music. Styx > ELP.

Would you know ''sophisticated music'' if it came and poked you in the eye? ELP were loud and bombastic.Not for everyone.Get over it.

James Hill wrote: When ELP was good they where as good as it gets like Tarkus,Trilogy or Brain Salad Surgery but when they where bad they where really bad like on Works vol 1 & 2 they gave prog a bad name.I think if they hired a full time axeman they would have been worlds better but with the drum,bass and keyboard foremat they painted themselves into a corner which the critics loved to exploit to rip progressive music which helped lead to the popularity of stupid and simple music which curses us today.

Music critics are useless.Their own ignorance and failure to recognies their own limitations has caused many of the problems in music IMO.Trying to make a virtue out of ignorance is one of the great curses that stops music evolving.Punk found many allies amongst music critiics because it is easy to understand.John Peel (God rest his soul) was also something of an accomplice in all this ..sadly.

James Hill wrote: When ELP was good they where as good as it gets like Tarkus,Trilogy or Brain Salad Surgery but when they where bad they where really bad like on Works vol 1 & 2 they gave prog a bad name.I think if they hired a full time axeman they would have been worlds better but with the drum,bass and keyboard foremat they painted themselves into a corner which the critics loved to exploit to rip progressive music which helped lead to the popularity of stupid and simple music which curses us today.

I agree with your comment about ELP being the best when at their peak. No doubt about that. And actually, I would push the beginning of the decline to Works 2, though Works 1 began to show that ELP as a band had reached their limits with their particular brand of prog.

The failure was with the band as a group (as opposed to the individuals in the group). Their chemistry was exhausted and they weren't imaginative enough or inventive enough or ???? to keep their sound alive in the changing times (like KC and Yes did, for instance). Maybe that was for the better, maybe not.

But adding a guitarist would not have help, at least not an axe-shredder type of of guitarist. That would have brought their sound down, imo.