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Topic: ELP
Posted By: Barbarian
Subject: ELP
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 18:55

 

Emerson Lake & Palmer...probably the gratest Prog band of all time..Agreed?




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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 18:59
They are among my top-favourites, but NO, not the best...sorry, don't agree Genesis (70-76) is the best IMO


Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:03
 grate1    https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fsearch%3Fr%3D2%26q%3Dgrates">Audio pronunciation of "grates" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (grt)
v. grat·ed, grat·ing, grates
v. tr.
  1. To irritate or annoy persistently.

Yes indeed ELP are the gratest

 

just kiddin' ELP lovers.



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Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:13
They have the gratest cover, at least: Love beach...

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Posted By: Yams
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:14
They are somewhere in the middle.


Posted By: Barbarian
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:15

Originally posted by mirco mirco wrote:

They have the gratest cover, at least: Love beach...

 

Lots of comedians on here especially the Genesis one



Posted By: Barbarian
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:19

Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

They are among my top-favourites, but NO, not the best...sorry, don't agree Genesis (70-76) is the best IMO

 

I think you'll find that while early Genesis were all asleep on stage ELP were certainly not.



Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:25
Originally posted by Barbarian Barbarian wrote:

Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

They are among my top-favourites, but NO, not the best...sorry, don't agree Genesis (70-76) is the best IMO

 

I think you'll find that while early Genesis were all asleep on stage ELP were certainly not.

 I so agree, Barbarian. ELP = energetic likable prog. I definitely rate them in the top 3 of my favourites!!



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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:27
ELP are very good indeed, the only complaint i have is that sometimes they can go a bit overboard with the keyboards, perhaps too much to take in, some songs get dragged down by extensive instrument passages. Very good band though from the first few of their albums i have heard. The first supergroup i think, and they have a great sound for a three piece. I'm not very keen on pictures at an exhibition though. Tarkus is my fave.

Greatest of all? not in my book, they are 2nd tier prog in my eyes.

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Posted By: Barbarian
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:27
Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

Originally posted by Barbarian Barbarian wrote:

Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

They are among my top-favourites, but NO, not the best...sorry, don't agree Genesis (70-76) is the best IMO

 

I think you'll find that while early Genesis were all asleep on stage ELP were certainly not.

 I so agree, Barbarian. ELP = energetic likable prog. I definitely rate them in the top 3 of my favourites!!

& Your number 2 dare i ask?

Could it be KC?????????????????



Posted By: Barbarian
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:30

Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

ELP are very good indeed, the only complaint i have is that sometimes they can go a bit overboard with the keyboards, perhaps too much to take in, some songs get dragged down by extensive instrument passages. Very good band though from the first few of their albums i have heard. The first supergroup i think, and they have a great sound for a three piece. I'm not very keen on pictures at an exhibition though. Tarkus is my fave.

Greatest of all? not in my book, they are 2nd tier prog in my eyes.

 

Yes small minds have a tough time taking things in

Bit overboard!!!  Too much to take in!!!   Songs get dragged down!!! 

Are you nuts frenchie.



Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:33

Heck no, they are not the best prog band ever. But I like them. Yes is the best prog band.



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:39
Originally posted by Barbarian Barbarian wrote:

Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

ELP are very good indeed, the only complaint i have is that sometimes they can go a bit overboard with the keyboards, perhaps too much to take in, some songs get dragged down by extensive instrument passages. Very good band though from the first few of their albums i have heard. The first supergroup i think, and they have a great sound for a three piece. I'm not very keen on pictures at an exhibition though. Tarkus is my fave.

Greatest of all? not in my book, they are 2nd tier prog in my eyes.

 

Yes small minds have a tough time taking things in

Bit overboard!!!  Too much to take in!!!   Songs get dragged down!!! 

Are you nuts frenchie.

Yes, such statements seems very odd, coming from a proger...IMO prog IS music that has much to give.



Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:42

They are soooooo good.  Especially from 1970-1974.  That stuff can compete with the best of them.  Having said that, I believe it eventually comes down to something like this:

  1. YES    (UNDISPUTED)
  2. Genesis
  3. ELP
  4. Jethro Tull (I'll get disagreed with A LOT on that)
  5. Pink Floyd
  6. Renaissance (I'll get disagreed with A LOT on that too ha ha)
  7. King Crimson (would be higher if it wasn't for Fripp's damn improv/experiments - can't stand that nonsense!)
  8. Camel
  9. VdGG
  10. Gentle Giant
  11. Caravan
  12. PFM



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Posted By: Barbarian
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:44
Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

Originally posted by Barbarian Barbarian wrote:

Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

ELP are very good indeed, the only complaint i have is that sometimes they can go a bit overboard with the keyboards, perhaps too much to take in, some songs get dragged down by extensive instrument passages. Very good band though from the first few of their albums i have heard. The first supergroup i think, and they have a great sound for a three piece. I'm not very keen on pictures at an exhibition though. Tarkus is my fave.

Greatest of all? not in my book, they are 2nd tier prog in my eyes.

 

Yes small minds have a tough time taking things in

Bit overboard!!!  Too much to take in!!!   Songs get dragged down!!! 

Are you nuts frenchie.

Yes, such statements seems very odd, coming from a proger...IMO prog IS music that has much to give.

 

Like hell.



Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:44

They are soooooo good.  Especially from 1970-1974.  That stuff can compete with the best of them.  Having said that, I believe it eventually comes down to something like this:

  1. YES    (UNDISPUTED)
  2. Genesis
  3. ELP    (Great Band, excellent musicians, Emerson is undeniable top 5 musicains in prog, horrible post-1977, and Love Beach)
  4. Jethro Tull (I'll get disagreed with A LOT on that)
  5. Pink Floyd
  6. Renaissance (I'll get disagreed with A LOT on that too ha ha)
  7. King Crimson (would be higher if it wasn't for Fripp's damn improv/experiments - can't stand that nonsense!)
  8. Camel
  9. VdGG
  10. Gentle Giant
  11. Caravan
  12. PFM

1556.  Asia ()



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Posted By: nousommedusolei
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:46

They're....up there. Not one of my personal favorites, though I do have quite a few of their albums. One has to be in a certain ELP mood. When I do listen to them I enjoy their music, but they're not the best.

Choosing a best is a hard thing to do. I'm juggling King Crimson, Genesis (early to mid seventies) and Van Der Graaf Generator.



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I don't believe in devils
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Posted By: Barbarian
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 19:51
Originally posted by nousommedusolei nousommedusolei wrote:

They're....up there. Not one of my personal favorites, though I do have quite a few of their albums. One has to be in a certain ELP mood. When I do listen to them I enjoy their music, but they're not the best.

Choosing a best is a hard thing to do. I'm juggling King Crimson, Genesis (early to mid seventies) and Van Der Graaf Generator.

 

Van Der Graaf...Do you suffer from depression?



Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 20:28
Originally posted by Barbarian Barbarian wrote:

Originally posted by nousommedusolei nousommedusolei wrote:

They're....up there. Not one of my personal favorites, though I do have quite a few of their albums. One has to be in a certain ELP mood. When I do listen to them I enjoy their music, but they're not the best.

Choosing a best is a hard thing to do. I'm juggling King Crimson, Genesis (early to mid seventies) and Van Der Graaf Generator.

 

Van Der Graaf...Do you suffer from depression?

The song "PILGRIMS" makes them an easy contender for anyone's top 3

GOD I LOVE THAT SONG



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 20:37
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

They are soooooo good.  Especially from 1970-1974.  That stuff can compete with the best of them.  Having said that, I believe it eventually comes down to something like this:

  1. YES    (UNDISPUTED)
  2. Genesis
  3. ELP    (Great Band, excellent musicians, Emerson is undeniable top 5 musicains in prog, horrible post-1977, and Love Beach)
  4. Jethro Tull (I'll get disagreed with A LOT on that)
  5. Pink Floyd
  6. Renaissance (I'll get disagreed with A LOT on that too ha ha)
  7. King Crimson (would be higher if it wasn't for Fripp's damn improv/experiments - can't stand that nonsense!)
  8. Camel
  9. VdGG
  10. Gentle Giant
  11. Caravan
  12. PFM

1556.  Asia ()

......concratulations, that's one of the better lists I've seen on this site so far, exept for my own ones...



Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 20:45
Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

They are soooooo good.  Especially from 1970-1974.  That stuff can compete with the best of them.  Having said that, I believe it eventually comes down to something like this:

  1. YES    (UNDISPUTED)
  2. Genesis
  3. ELP    (Great Band, excellent musicians, Emerson is undeniable top 5 musicains in prog, horrible post-1977, and Love Beach)
  4. Jethro Tull (I'll get disagreed with A LOT on that)
  5. Pink Floyd
  6. Renaissance (I'll get disagreed with A LOT on that too ha ha)
  7. King Crimson (would be higher if it wasn't for Fripp's damn improv/experiments - can't stand that nonsense!)
  8. Camel
  9. VdGG
  10. Gentle Giant
  11. Caravan
  12. PFM

1556.  Asia ()

......concratulations, that's one of the better lists I've seen on this site so far, exept for my own ones...

Thanks man -------- and it's debatable whether asia deserves to be on a prog list, even if it as #1556.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 20:51
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

They are soooooo good.  Especially from 1970-1974.  That stuff can compete with the best of them.  Having said that, I believe it eventually comes down to something like this:

  1. YES    (UNDISPUTED)
  2. Genesis
  3. ELP    (Great Band, excellent musicians, Emerson is undeniable top 5 musicains in prog, horrible post-1977, and Love Beach)
  4. Jethro Tull (I'll get disagreed with A LOT on that)
  5. Pink Floyd
  6. Renaissance (I'll get disagreed with A LOT on that too ha ha)
  7. King Crimson (would be higher if it wasn't for Fripp's damn improv/experiments - can't stand that nonsense!)
  8. Camel
  9. VdGG
  10. Gentle Giant
  11. Caravan
  12. PFM

1556.  Asia ()

......concratulations, that's one of the better lists I've seen on this site so far, exept for my own ones...

Thanks man -------- and it's debatable whether asia deserves to be on a prog list, even if it as #1556.

 yes, in fact it is...if it hadn't been for their debut-album, they would have been under the magic 2000-level.. Now. let me make two lists (see below)



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 20:57

List number one - "some good classic prog-bands":

  • Pink Floyd
  • Genesis
  • Yes
  • Gentle Giant
  • King Crimson
  • EL&P
  • Focus
  • Van der Graaf Generator
  • Eloy
  • Camel
  • Caravan
  • Jethro Tull
  • Kaipa
  • Manfred Mann's Earth Band
  • PFM
  • Procol Harum
  • UK
  • The Enid

 

.....to name a few

List number two(see below)



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 21:00

List number two - EL&P-rating-list of studio-albums:

  • Emerson, Lake & Palmer
  • Pictures at an exhibition
  • Tarkus
  • Trilogy
  • Brain salad surgery
  • Works II
  • Works I
  • Emerson, Lake & Powel
  • Love beach
  • Black moon
  • In the hot seat

Cheers



Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 21:07

FLOWERCHILD good list.  HOW COULD I FORGET FOCUS.   I am a flutist so naturally i have fallen in love with Focus. 

This would be My Rating of ELP's albums.

  1. Brain Salad Surgery
  2. Trilogy
  3. Tarkus
  4. Pictures
  5. ELP
  6. Welcome Back
  7. .
  8. .
  9. .
  10. .
  11. .
  12. .
  13. .
  14. .
  15. Works One
  16. Work's Live
  17. Works Two
  18. Love Blechh


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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 22:03

ELP....Every LP is Pomp...Pretentious...Pressed by Poofs...

Not really, but they're FAR from my first tier of prog bands.  I think they're great showmen, but it doesn't really come thru on the albums....even the live ones.  I guess you had to be there to see the boys leaping from instrument to instrument....but the LPs are a bore.  You have to wade thru too much shyte to get to an entertaining passage.



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Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 22:28

I know everyone has their own opinion here about ELP but I just can't stomach them.  I have tried, I honestly have.  But, they are worse than fingernails on a chalk board (to me anyways).  I still think they look like the Bee Gee's on Love Beach.

So to answer the original question - NO!  Not by a long shot are they the best.



Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 22:49
Originally posted by rushaholic rushaholic wrote:

I know everyone has their own opinion here about ELP but I just can't stomach them.  I have tried, I honestly have.  But, they are worse than fingernails on a chalk board (to me anyways).  I still think they look like the Bee Gee's on Love Beach.

So to answer the original question - NO!  Not by a long shot are they the best.

It's funny how diverse prog is.  I absolutely adore elp.  I've found for some reason that many Rush fans don't like ELP for some reason.  Can't explain it. 

I could never get into rush myself.  I have 2112-Moving Pictures, it always seems like metal-hardrock-pop, never as classy as the british stuff but certainly not bad.  oh well.   godf I'm rambling.



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Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 22:53
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by rushaholic rushaholic wrote:

I know everyone has their own opinion here about ELP but I just can't stomach them.  I have tried, I honestly have.  But, they are worse than fingernails on a chalk board (to me anyways).  I still think they look like the Bee Gee's on Love Beach.

So to answer the original question - NO!  Not by a long shot are they the best.

It's funny how diverse prog is.  I absolutely adore elp.  I've found for some reason that many Rush fans don't like ELP for some reason.  Can't explain it. 

I could never get into rush myself.  I have 2112-Moving Pictures, it always seems like metal-hardrock-pop, never as classy as the british stuff but certainly not bad.  oh well.   godf I'm rambling.

The wonderful thing about music is is that there is plenty of it for all different tastes.

Judging by your signature, we can at least agree that Genesis is among the best!



Posted By: Laurent
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 23:13

I like them a lot. I own

S/T

Tarkus

BSS

Works 2

The best of ELP(1980)



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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 23:41

ELP was musically the best band there ever was...with the best voice that ever sang.. prog or non-prog....

http://www.greglake.com/newsite/html/discpops/20Enigma.mp3 - http://www.greglake.com/newsite/html/discpops/20Enigma.mp3

 



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THIS IS ELP


Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 23:43

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

ELP was musically the best band there ever was...with the best voice that ever sang.. prog or non-prog....

**cough**, **cough**, bull&%$t, **cough**



Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 23:45
Originally posted by rushaholic rushaholic wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

ELP was musically the best band there ever was...with the best voice that ever sang.. prog or non-prog....

**cough**, **cough**, bull&%$t, **cough**

It must be hard being a guy who coughs up bull sh*t all the time...



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THIS IS ELP


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 02:19

ELP are in the top six prog bands ever:

King Crimson

Genesis

Yes

ELP

Pink Floyd

Jethro Tull

 

Put them in any order you like...it doesn't matter.

Rush are a great band and are one of my favourites as well,but the cornerstones of the genre are the above without any question whatsoever.(''But you forgot Gentle Giant!!'' I hear a few loud cries )

BTW Any chance of a sensible discussion about ELP for a change ie no name calling,no tantrums etc??



Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 03:00
Originally posted by Barbarian Barbarian wrote:

Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

Originally posted by Barbarian Barbarian wrote:

Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

They are among my top-favourites, but NO, not the best...sorry, don't agree Genesis (70-76) is the best IMO

 

I think you'll find that while early Genesis were all asleep on stage ELP were certainly not.

 I so agree, Barbarian. ELP = energetic likable prog. I definitely rate them in the top 3 of my favourites!!

& Your number 2 dare i ask?

Could it be KC?????????????????

 Here are my top 3 BUT in no particular order (tis too hard )

  • ELP
  • KC
  • Yes

very predictable I know - but that was what I listened to in my early teens and still listen to.

my fourth choice would be Jethro Tull and after that a gap to the rest



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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 03:03
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by rushaholic rushaholic wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

ELP was musically the best band there ever was...with the best voice that ever sang.. prog or non-prog....

**cough**, **cough**, bull&%$t, **cough**

It must be hard being a guy who coughs up bull sh*t all the time...

  



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- Robert Fripp




Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 03:24
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

ELP are in the top six prog bands ever:

King Crimson

Genesis

Yes

ELP

Pink Floyd

Jethro Tull

 

Put them in any order you like...it doesn't matter.

That's exactly what I wanted to say!



Posted By: the dragon
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 03:53

One of my favourite but not the best - Genesis are!

Probably the first supergroup, a real milestone but also a bit overboard with the Keith's keyboards (listen the confusion in Picture at an Exibition). Greg was the mind but Keith the boss! Wonderful Greg ballads (Still... you turn me on and the pacifist Lucky Man) and amazing Carl percussions (Tank, oh God!).

Stay Up and Prog forever!

 

 



Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 04:16
I've only heard "Living Sin" song, but I want to hear some more as I loved it.  What is the best album to get?

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 04:24

Originally posted by spectral spectral wrote:

I've only heard "Living Sin" song, but I want to hear some more as I loved it.  What is the best album to get?

IMO: Emerson, Lake and Palmer (1st)

Then just go on with the rest of their first five albums



Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 04:37

Thanks Flowerchild, I'll head out and pick up that record.  I was blown away by Living Sin, so I'm looking forward to hearing more of them.

I heard that things went a little awry for them after Brain Salad Surgery.  Would you agree?



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 04:42
Originally posted by spectral spectral wrote:

Thanks Flowerchild, I'll head out and pick up that record.  I was blown away by Living Sin, so I'm looking forward to hearing more of them.

I heard that things went a little awry for them after Brain Salad Surgery.  Would you agree?

Yes, I would, as with most bands during that period. I suggest you wait with Works I and II, thought IMO, they are good records...Love beach and the reunion-stuff is for completionists, though. But u should know that the song Living sin is NOT very significant for the rest of their catalog, IMO.



Posted By: MorgothSunshine
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 04:45

They've done some great things (i think the first album is their best) and also something really horrible (works-love beach).

Anyway in my opinion they're very very far to being the greatest prog band.



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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 04:47
Cheers for the tips, I'm heading out as soon as possible to pick up their first record then! 

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 04:53

Originally posted by spectral spectral wrote:

Cheers for the tips, I'm heading out as soon as possible to pick up their first record then! 

Yes, do so



Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 04:58

Originally posted by spectral spectral wrote:

Cheers for the tips, I'm heading out as soon as possible to pick up their first record then! 

Please do! The album is superb. On of my top 5 favorite albums. It never bores me. Matter of fact, listened to it yesterday, and was blown away once again.



Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 05:00
Regarding "Living Sin", what album is it from?

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 05:04

Originally posted by spectral spectral wrote:

Regarding "Living Sin", what album is it from?

It's from their fourth album "Trilogy". U can easily start with that one as well, perhaps it's best, cause u love that song, then u get the most positive start



Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 05:10
Thanks again.  I'll see what the local record store has and decide then.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 05:12

Originally posted by spectral spectral wrote:

Thanks again.  I'll see what the local record store has and decide then.

U'r welcome



Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 07:37

Barbarian are you a Nut? Are you off your Rocker?..................

......No! Obviously not....Emerson Lake and Palmer Are the Greatest Progressive Rock band ever!..................



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Posted By: the dragon
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 08:08

And, of course, this would be my rating of EmersonLake&Palmer's albums.

  1. Tarkus 
  2. Trilogy
  3. Brain Salad Surgery
  4. ELP
  5. Live at the Royal Albert Hall 
  6. Picture at an Exibition
  7. Welcome back...

 

Prog forever!

 



Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 08:14
[RANT] ELP have produced too much rubbish to really be considered the "greatest". But God, I'm so sick of these discussions. How would you feel if I started making threads claiming Gentle Giant were the greatest band of all time every other day? I might think that they are but that's JUST MY OPINION. These discussions are pointless. Pointless and irritating. Why can't you all take your heads out of the sand and talk about some DIFFERENT BANDS, eh?

Good God, there are 1,607 groups listed in the Archives, countless more over at GEPR and yet, despite this half of you seem incapable of discussion more than about FIVE of them. It's pathetic and infuriating, especially when it's as silly as this. "I think this band's the bestest." "Yes, it is." "No it isn't." "Yes it is." "No it isn't."

And people wonder why prog never gets represented well in the media...[/RANT]


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 08:25

ELP are still the greatest tho.



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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 08:27
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

ELP are still the greatest tho.



*loads shotgun*


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 08:30
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

ELP are still the greatest tho.



*loads shotgun*

Hey dont shoot me, I'm the piano player!.....No you cant shoot the Prophet who brings the word of ELP (not on my 1000th post anyway)



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 08:33
Do I get a prize Now?

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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 09:59

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

[RANT] ELP have produced too much rubbish to really be considered the "greatest". But God, I'm so sick of these discussions. How would you feel if I started making threads claiming Gentle Giant were the greatest band of all time every other day? I might think that they are but that's JUST MY OPINION. These discussions are pointless. Pointless and irritating. Why can't you all take your heads out of the sand and talk about some DIFFERENT BANDS, eh?

Good God, there are 1,607 groups listed in the Archives, countless more over at GEPR and yet, despite this half of you seem incapable of discussion more than about FIVE of them. It's pathetic and infuriating, especially when it's as silly as this. "I think this band's the bestest." "Yes, it is." "No it isn't." "Yes it is." "No it isn't."

And people wonder why prog never gets represented well in the media...[/RANT]

Just a suggestion then:

There are about 30 threads on this first page... only one has the title "ELP"... if you don't like them or you don't want to read anymore about them.... then just skip the thread and go to one of those others that discusses the "DIFFERENT BANDS"..you seem to want to discuss... but don't!!!

Why don't you start your own GG thread instead of complaining about it... then we can all come and trash you!

 



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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 10:00
ELP ? Who are they ??? 

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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally


Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 10:11

WOW... you need to go back to Clown College...

ELP are:

  • The essence of talent
  • The joy of music
  • The voice of fantasy
  • The compositions of beauty
  • The dreams of lovers
  • The sounds of echoes
  • The movement of time
  • The chords of shadows
  • The emotions of sinners
  • The winds of daydreams
  • The cries of lost loves
  • The beginning and the end....of my heart!



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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 10:12
WOW !!!!!!!!!!!

I´m IGGNORANNTE


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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally


Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 10:13
I thought they were something in the vein of Dream Theater 

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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally


Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 10:15

Don't worry, Velvie... I'll teach you! 

Now go buy the first ELP album if you don't have it... and we'll start with

"The Barbarian"...



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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 10:22
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

WOW... you need to go back to Clown College...

ELP are:

  • The essence of talent
  • The joy of music
  • The voice of fantasy
  • The compositions of beauty
  • The dreams of lovers
  • The sounds of echoes
  • The movement of time
  • The chords of shadows
  • The emotions of sinners
  • The winds of daydreams
  • The cries of lost loves
  • The beginning and the end....of my heart!

It's good to know we can still rely on you for an objective opinion, Threefates. For what it's worth, I think Emerson, Lake and Plonker were actually quite good sometimes.



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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom




Posted By: Mad Man Moon
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 10:24

I used to liked them a lot more some time ago. Still tey are amongst my favourites.

And I have always thought that "Love Beach" is not that bad AT ALL



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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 10:24

I can give you an objective opinion of Genesis or Gentle Giant... if you'd like!  But I don't feel ELP should be looked at objectively... that takes all the fun out of it!!  

You just have to open up and breath them in.... does wonders for your outlook on life!!



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Posted By: Barbarian
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 10:40
[QUOTE=rushaholic]

I know everyone has their own opinion here about ELP but I just can't stomach them. 

 

 

Your Joking right....

 

Ugly bunch

Good looking supremo,fantastic,best band on earth,shows everyone else how it should be done ELP



Posted By: Barbarian
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 10:45

Originally posted by spectral spectral wrote:

I've only heard "Living Sin" song, but I want to hear some more as I loved it.  What is the best album to get?

Immediatly to to to:  http://www.play.com - www.play.com   http://www.Amazon.com - www.Amazon.com   http://www.amazon.co.uk - www.amazon.co.uk

ELP

TARKUS

PICTURES @ AN EXHIBITION

TRILOGY

BRAIN SALAD SURGERY

WELCOME BACK MY FRIENDS

That'll keep you quiet for a bit till you feel you need another fix.

 

 



Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 12:03

My favorite prog bands are:

1. Pink Floyd (11)

2. Yes (6)

3. King Crimson (5)

4.Jethro Tull (4)

5. ELP (2)

6.genesis (1)

7. Rush (2)

The list may shenge when i buy more albums, but this is what i think for the moment.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 12:21
Originally posted by Barbarian Barbarian wrote:

[QUOTE=rushaholic]

I know everyone has their own opinion here about ELP but I just can't stomach them. 

 

 

Your Joking right....

 

Ugly bunch

Good looking supremo,fantastic,best band on earth,shows everyone else how it should be done ELP

But u'r avator and username....??



Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 12:47
The top line was evidently a quote from Rushaholic, Flower... not from the Barbarian... he was just making a statement about it...

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Posted By: ita_prog_fan
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 12:58
Originally posted by Barbarian Barbarian wrote:

 

Emerson Lake & Palmer...probably the gratest Prog band of all time..Agreed?

Among the notable ones, but not the greatest... i'm sorry.

 

 



Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 13:22
Originally posted by ita_prog_fan ita_prog_fan wrote:

Originally posted by Barbarian Barbarian wrote:

 

Emerson Lake & Palmer...probably the gratest Prog band of all time..Agreed?

Among the notable ones, but not the greatest... i'm sorry.

 

 

In that case, neither are Genesis w P.Gabriel



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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 13:35
PLONKER ????????

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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally


Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 13:36
That sounds NICE Threefates !!! 

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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally


Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 14:14
look how skinny the guy in the middle is (i cant tell them apart but i know greg lake is on the right), it looks like he is sucking it all in, you can see his ribcage!

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Posted By: Barbarian
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 15:15

Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

look how skinny the guy in the middle is (i cant tell them apart but i know greg lake is on the right), it looks like he is sucking it all in, you can see his ribcage!

 

That so called skinny guy in the middle is Tank man Carl Palmer..Hows about fit as a fiddle & would snap your neck in one swoop.



Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 15:22

Frenchie, if you're talking about the Japanese ELP boot above... Its Keith Emerson with the hat, Carl Palmer in the middle with the superhero shirt and Greg on the end...  I have better pictures from that photo shoot...



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Posted By: omri
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 15:54

ELP is one of those I realy appreciare. I ca'nt tell if they are better than genesys or pink floyd or some others cause it depends of my mood at the moment . They are definitely a member of my top 10 .

The only thing I can say for sure is which is my favorite band. there's a hint in Barbarian's signature !

got it ?

 

 

 

 

 

King crimson !



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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 16:48
Originally posted by Barbarian Barbarian wrote:

Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

look how skinny the guy in the middle is (i cant tell them apart but i know greg lake is on the right), it looks like he is sucking it all in, you can see his ribcage!

 

That so called skinny guy in the middle is Tank man Carl Palmer..Hows about fit as a fiddle & would snap your neck in one swoop.

Give it a rest, KE9 - and if you're going to set up any more alternate identities, try altering your font, not centering your text, using a spell check and using a non ELP related nickname.



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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom




Posted By: kingman
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 17:13

I'd like to throw the band "Nektar" in the list.  Maybe not one of the greatest progressive bands ever, but certainly their early works such as "Journey . . ." and "Remember . . ." are quite good.



Posted By: Barbarian
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 19:06
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by Barbarian Barbarian wrote:

Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

look how skinny the guy in the middle is (i cant tell them apart but i know greg lake is on the right), it looks like he is sucking it all in, you can see his ribcage!

 

That so called skinny guy in the middle is Tank man Carl Palmer..Hows about fit as a fiddle & would snap your neck in one swoop.

Give it a rest, KE9 - and if you're going to set up any more alternate identities, try altering your font, not centering your text, using a spell check and using a non ELP related nickname.

 

NON ELP RELATED NICKNAME?SO?

 



Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 19:28
K9 must you be so offensive I really like the way you ELP people stick up for your band but you cannot force your views down others throats.As for being the best prog band get a life they were good but not in the same league as Yes My favourite ELP moment is as a 16 year old in Blankenberg Belgium on school hols coming out of the pub and around ten of us singing and playing ' Knife Edge' all the way back to our digs.Yes,Elp were a great prog band, but not the best.


Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 19:49

Originally posted by Fragile Fragile wrote:

K9 must you be so offensive I really like the way you ELP people stick up for your band but you cannot force your views down others throats.As for being the best prog band get a life they were good but not in the same league as Yes 

Yeh, I don't think your views on Yes will be going down too many throats either...



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Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 19:52
You are extremely gifted with that olifactory radar of yours K9.What stench is it that enables you to tell.As for comparing a very limited ELP with Yes it is you who needs to perambulate into the real world.Yes are still as they always were the best live band in the business and can never be labelled stagnant on stage.Perhaps you meant pungent or maybe your nose is way too close to your chocolate starfish for one.


Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 20:07
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Fragile Fragile wrote:

K9 must you be so offensive I really like the way you ELP people stick up for your band but you cannot force your views down others throats.As for being the best prog band get a life they were good but not in the same league as Yes 

Yeh, I don't think your views on Yes will be going down too many throats either...

It's the way I say it 3 Fates


Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 20:10
ha ha a battle between Yes and ELP fans, I love it.  The Genesis fanatics are a much mellower bunch! 

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 20:24

Originally posted by Fragile Fragile wrote:

You are extremely gifted with that olifactory radar of yours K9.What stench is it that enables you to tell.As for comparing a very limited ELP with Yes it is you who needs to perambulate into the real world.Yes are still as they always were the best live band in the business and can never be labelled stagnant on stage.Perhaps you meant pungent or maybe your nose is way too close to your chocolate starfish for one.

 

Mr Fragile

What bollox duth talketh

Yes were not always the best live band.I have many live recording of yes & most are really bad.You know the good/bad thing with ELP if anything that they are so good live you can find it hard to distinguish the live from the studio sometimes.



Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 20:54
Originally posted by Karnevil9 Karnevil9 wrote:

Originally posted by Fragile Fragile wrote:

You are extremely gifted with that olifactory radar of yours K9.What stench is it that enables you to tell.As for comparing a very limited ELP with Yes it is you who needs to perambulate into the real world.Yes are still as they always were the best live band in the business and can never be labelled stagnant on stage.Perhaps you meant pungent or maybe your nose is way too close to your chocolate starfish for one.

 

Mr Fragile

What bollox duth talketh

Yes were not always the best live band.I have many live recording of yes & most are really bad.You know the good/bad thing with ELP if anything that they are so good live you can find it hard to distinguish the live from the studio sometimes.

Are you saying Welcome Back My Friends is superfluous!



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Posted By: Benighted
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:01
I just bought ELP's first three.  I am absolutely amazed by the drumming.  Top notch.


Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:02

I'll probably get shot for saying this......

I think Yes is one of those bands that is better on the albums than they are live.  They are good live and can be great live but they rarely bring a dynamic to any given song that makes you prefer the live version of a song over a studio version. (talking real yes here - pre 90210).  I know some of you will disagree.  But, I am a person that loves live music and I still prefer Yes on the studio albums over the live stuff 99% of the time.  They don't butcher the songs by any stretch, but they don't add much to them either.

On the other hand ELP is one of those bands that adds magic to the music on stage.  Hoedown is ok, but rather stuffy on the album...but live WOOOO!! Tarkus just flat out kicks ass live.  I could go on and on.  Threefates will probably try to ban me from the site for saying this, but the only exception to this IMO is Greg Lake doing his ballads.  I always wanted him to STFU and get on with the good stuff.  I always felt it ruined the flow of the show.  I like his ballads on the albums, just not live.



Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:05
Originally posted by JMCecil JMCecil wrote:

I'll probably get shot for saying this......

I think Yes is one of those bands that is better on the albums than they are live.  They are good live and can be great live but they rarely bring a dynamic to any given song that makes you prefer the live version of a song over a studio version. (talking real yes here - pre 90210).  I know some of you will disagree.  But, I am a person that loves live music and I still prefer Yes on the studio albums over the live stuff 99% of the time.  They don't butcher the songs by any stretch, but they don't add much to them either.

On the other hand ELP is one of those bands that adds magic to the music on stage.  Hoedown is ok, but rather stuffy on the album...but live WOOOO!! Tarkus just flat out kicks ass live.  I could go on and on.  Threefates will probably try to ban me from the site for saying this, but the only exception to this IMO is Greg Lake doing his ballads.  I always wanted him to STFU and get on with the good stuff.  I always felt it ruined the flow of the show.  I like his ballads on the albums, just not live.

They are both great live bands (no ly syncing as far as i know), but in the beggining, ELP had more energy and put on a better show, but IMO Yessongs is better than Welcome Back.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:07
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by Karnevil9 Karnevil9 wrote:

Originally posted by Fragile Fragile wrote:

You are extremely gifted with that olifactory radar of yours K9.What stench is it that enables you to tell.As for comparing a very limited ELP with Yes it is you who needs to perambulate into the real world.Yes are still as they always were the best live band in the business and can never be labelled stagnant on stage.Perhaps you meant pungent or maybe your nose is way too close to your chocolate starfish for one.

 

Mr Fragile

What bollox duth talketh

Yes were not always the best live band.I have many live recording of yes & most are really bad.You know the good/bad thing with ELP if anything that they are so good live you can find it hard to distinguish the live from the studio sometimes.

Are you saying Welcome Back My Friends is superfluous!

CLARIFY MASTER

 



Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:11

Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

They are both great live bands (no ly syncing as far as i know), but in the beggining, ELP had more energy and put on a better show, but IMO Yessongs is better than Welcome Back.

Yeah, it's hard to explain really.  I wasn't trying to trash Yes in the least.  I've seen them many times and enjoyed every show until Union.  If you tried to pin me down I would even say that they are my favorite band.  Yes - > Drama $$$$

But there was something totaly electric when ELP used to play.  I remember the first time I heard Fanfare for the Common Man live.  The timp hits followed by the horns going off is like soul destroying good in person.



Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:16
I'm probably going more from experiences at the concerts than the live albums.  The live Yes recordings from the 70s have never done them justice.  I don't know if it was playing in the round, really crappy mobile recording setups or what, but they sounded 1000x better in person than YesSongs and YesShows and the DVDs/Tapes lead one to believe.


Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 23:27

Originally posted by JMCecil JMCecil wrote:

I'm probably going more from experiences at the concerts than the live albums.  The live Yes recordings from the 70s have never done them justice.  I don't know if it was playing in the round, really crappy mobile recording setups or what, but they sounded 1000x better in person than YesSongs and YesShows and the DVDs/Tapes lead one to believe.

even their live records from 90's-00's are better now with new technology.  I love my live at the house of blues DVD.  Howe is a beast on that.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 23:38

 

You know the big problem with YES & GENESIS is there studio recording & live mobile equipment was so bad it toTaly destroyed them for me.In always....I cannot listern to any of the two bands on a regular basis because of this.

 

MY WISH FOR THE NEW YEAR:

GENESIS RE-RECORD:

TRESPASS,NURSERY CRYME,FOXTROT,SELING MY ARSE FOR A FIVER,LAMBS,TRICK OF & WIND,WUTHERING

YES RE-RECORD:

THE YES ALBUM,FRAGILE,CLOSE TO THE EDGE,TOPOGRAPHICS & RELAYER

ELP RE-RECORD:

ELP,TARKUS,TRILOGY & BSS

 

ON SACD PLEASE....



Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 03:30
Originally posted by JMCecil JMCecil wrote:

I'll probably get shot for saying this......

I think Yes is one of those bands that is better on the albums than they are live.  They are good live and can be great live but they rarely bring a dynamic to any given song that makes you prefer the live version of a song over a studio version. (talking real yes here - pre 90210).  I know some of you will disagree.  But, I am a person that loves live music and I still prefer Yes on the studio albums over the live stuff 99% of the time.  They don't butcher the songs by any stretch, but they don't add much to them either.



On the whole, I'd agree with you. Whenever I hear Steve Howe staggering his way seemingly inexpertly through the opening of Close to the Edge I shudder. However, on the Yes Symphonic DVD they play Ritual - a song I've never liked all that much for numerous reasons - and they really transform it into something special. But yes, their live work is rarely an improvement on the studio work.


Posted By: MorgothSunshine
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 04:35

Emerson Lake & Palmer are absolutely overrated! Here seams that only ELP and Yes are considered for the best prog band...i think you're missing a lot of othere great bands!

Just for example you're talking about a prog trio (elp) and what about Quatermass??? Probably they were even more talented than ELP, surely more inspired!..but seems that no one cares.

ELP are Overrated: great musicians but quiet uninspired and emotionless!!!



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 05:03
HAHAHAH........ but you english dudes are good about producing music now, right?



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