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musitron
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 10:36 |
Does religion have a place in Prog music?Yes if it is against ;o)
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SteveG
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 10:40 |
^ Sorry but you lost me on that one.
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musitron
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 10:46 |
SteveG wrote:
^ Sorry but you lost me on that one.
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Religion is the main cause of wars in this world. It's good to mention it in the songs once in a while.
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Epignosis
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 10:48 |
musitron wrote:
Does religion have a place in Prog music?Yes if it is against ;o) | Says someone with an avatar representing a panentheistic singer.
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rogerthat
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 10:53 |
Epignosis wrote:
I don't think
that has much to do with the artists as it does with the music industry. Go to a record store- do you find sections for "Muslim
music" or "Hindu music?" Of course not.
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Perhaps that is the case in America. But in India, there is certainly a separate category referred to as devotional music, which is basically songs in praise of God(s) and it's identified as such in record stores. They may not specify HINDU devotional music but there's no need to as all the titles stocked by the stores in that category pertain to Hindu religious music. And as far as I know, Christmas music is a distinct category over there and it's a bit difficult to argue that that has nothing to do AT ALL with Christianity because it is a Christian festival. We do have Christmas holidays here because it's a sort of festive season and we treat ourselves to pastries and all that but we don't say any prayers because, all said and done, it's not OUR festival.
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Catcher10
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 10:53 |
^ Ha!! Nice catch skeletor!! I knew he was "all in God" but did not know the term for that.
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rogerthat
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 10:57 |
The T wrote:
Everything has a place in prog music. If Jon Anderson gets away with the stupid lyrics he usually writes for his music, I don't see why other people can't write about anything they want, including religion. |
This. At least so long as the music is not a vehicle to further a hateful and violent agenda.
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A Person
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 10:59 |
pretty sure anything has a place in any kind of music as long as the lyricist wants to write about it
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verslibre
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 11:04 |
octopus-4 wrote:
An artist is allowed to take the inspiration for lyrics from everything. |
Ditto.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 11:06 |
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SteveG
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 11:10 |
^Didn't Type O Negative do that theme already?
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Gerinski
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 11:27 |
Well, since Prog is often about bringing together different musical styles and elements, one might argue that religion-themed lyrics would only be genuinely Proggy if they bring together elements from many different religions and not just from one. I can't think of any example though, religion seems to be a rather exclusive practice, "if it's mine, it can't be yours".
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 12:04 |
Amusingly, a preponderance of posters over on the "Are lyrics important" thread claim that lyrics don't mean much to them.
So I guess it doesn't matter.
Edited by The Dark Elf - August 06 2014 at 12:05
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 12:15 |
In prog anything goes, it just better work.
Before anyone classifies lyrics as “stupid” I think they
should understand them first. Metaphors and symbolisms should be unraveled
before passing senseless judgment.
Is there a difference between religious and spiritual?
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uvtraveler
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 12:32 |
If the songwriter is expressing their opinion or mood, I'm fine with anything. If he/she is trying to tell me what I have to do...whether it's religion/politics/baseball...I'm less likely to want to listen.
Same with any discussion....
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lazland
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 14:22 |
Svetonio wrote:
and I said that as an atheist fundamentalist.
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I know I will regret this, but sometimes I really cannot help myself.
So........
Do you know how bloody ridiculous this sounds?
Actually, do you realise just how religious this sounds?
How can you have a damned "atheist fundamentalist". This implies to me that there exist such strange creatures as atheist heretics
Dean, my dear chap. You there? Are you a lesser atheist than our mutual friend Mr Trot? Is there just a little bit of belief creeping into your otherwise pure atheistic thoughts?
You have all, of course, heard of The Popular Front of Judea......bloody splitters
Well, my friends.....I now introduce to you.......The Wretched Society of Purist Atheists. No God allowed. No thoughts other than pure Marxism allowed. Them British Secular Society bunch........splitters.....heretics.......
Svetonio......you really are a bloody fool.
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The Doctor
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 14:36 |
^I'm a fundamentalist agnostic.
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Gerinski
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 14:42 |
^ I'm a fundamentalist anti-fundamentalist
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Polymorphia
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 15:15 |
I have a list of fun and demented people.
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SteveG
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 15:26 |
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