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Topic: Why can't Brits stand Archive? Posted: June 17 2014 at 15:55
Someone on the site here put up a video from a live performance and I loved it, bought the cd but could only muster 3 stars overall despite that one amazing tune.
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Posted: May 28 2014 at 17:36
HackettFan wrote:
Matthew _Gill wrote:
Strange thoughts, Archive don't really class themselves as anything but do make the point in interviews that their music is progressive, lol.
It seems more dance, pop or electronic than rock to me for the most part..
Surely this is progressive, it just seems to me a tribute to Floyd's Echoes.
I thought the use of timbres merited a Prog ribbon. I'm not sure about what else. It's certainly music for the patient. It takes awhile interesting things to develop. That's a sore spot I also have with Van der Graaf Generator. There were two or three times when they had a droning thing going not unlike VdGG, just missin the sax(es).
You have to be very very patient with Archive, I think even the most ardent UK prog fans find them way too demanding, but I love how they slowly build layers, like Steve does on the end of 'Shadow of the Hierophant.'
I think this is Archive's longest song, a real modern Prog classic with yet another nod to Floyd's 'Echoes' at the start.
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Posted: May 28 2014 at 12:53
Matthew _Gill wrote:
Strange thoughts, Archive don't really class themselves as anything but do make the point in interviews that their music is progressive, lol.
It seems more dance, pop or electronic than rock to me for the most part..
Surely this is progressive, it just seems to me a tribute to Floyd's Echoes.
I thought the use of timbres merited a Prog ribbon. I'm not sure about what else. It's certainly music for the patient. It takes awhile interesting things to develop. That's a sore spot I also have with Van der Graaf Generator. There were two or three times when they had a droning thing going not unlike VdGG, just missin the sax(es).
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Posted: May 27 2014 at 15:43
To be honest I think Archive want to create the magic of Echoes, Saucerful of Secrets, Mudmen and keep you waiting for the good bits.
Here at 2.55 the Cello Kicks in and you realise they are cut from the same cloth, at 3.10 the 2nd Cello kicks in evoking a bit of that rare teary-eyed emotion that came with listening to Pink Floyd's sheer brilliance.
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Posted: May 27 2014 at 10:29
Gee, I've never really thought of asking the north Londoner three doors north of me here in West L.A. what he thinks of the archive. Sounds like an interesting survey to pose to the patrons of the Cock and Bull pub down the street on Lincoln Blvd. between Venice and Santa Monica. I'd probably be told that I'm daft, though.
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Posted: May 26 2014 at 14:57
M27Barney wrote:
Very Floyd influenced - and isn't at all Camel at 4:10??? It's alright but I didn't think - WOW - must buy !!!
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Archive musically are very similar to Camel at times imo, progressive loops etc, but with a modern twist. Instead of the flute/panpipes Archive employ the cello and strings.
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Posted: May 25 2014 at 17:24
After I listened to Floyd to death I started on their bootlegs, demos and unreleased material to keep my interest up. I'm doing the same with Archive and have found some beauts!!!
Undeniably Camel around the 4.05 mark, whilst retaining that fresh Archive Trip Hop inspired prog trademark sound.
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Posted: May 25 2014 at 05:37
Really digging 'Again' from You Look All The Same To Me. Very prog (Floyd / PT influenced). I have listened to a number of their albums and this band dishes up a variety of music. 'Come on get high' from Controlling Crowds part IV is a simple track (more electronic than prog) but grows on you.
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Posted: May 24 2014 at 03:54
They have become very passionate in their last few albums, they have 1 out Monday and the opening track blows me away around the 1.25 mark. It's like Massive attack meets Peter Gabriel.
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Posted: May 24 2014 at 02:08
Perhaps its just very dull and uninteresting. I like ambient based music but is it better than Hogarth and Barbiere's The Hand Not The Weapon or the Storm Corosion albums?
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Posted: May 23 2014 at 23:14
I have, and love, Controlling Crowds. It's not prog in the classic sens, but has some resemblance, and enough other interesting stuff to make it very fine. Heard and liked WUUYD, but didn't make the effort to seek out a copy to buy. If I could find it in a local store I definitely would!
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Posted: May 23 2014 at 20:35
Listening to With Us Until We're Dead right now. Very interesting; trip-hop with a strong cinematic scope. Prog-related would work as a classification, or Crossover.
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Posted: May 23 2014 at 09:19
octopus-4 wrote:
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octopus-4 wrote:
The first time I've listened to one of their songs was on the radio and I thought it was something from tangerine Dream until they started singing. The song was "Bullets" from "Controlling Crowd" which I have later bought.
Not all their output is prog, especially the first albums, but Controlling Crowd is a great album which I think is prog enough.
First album was Trip Hop, Rap to normal folk and the 2nd undeniably pop, but the 3rd onwards are impossible to classify without being too eclectic either. The Floyd though started as a live dance act then Psyche outfit then prog, so similar patterns.
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Posted: May 23 2014 at 09:14
Matthew _Gill wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
The first time I've listened to one of their songs was on the radio and I thought it was something from tangerine Dream until they started singing. The song was "Bullets" from "Controlling Crowd" which I have later bought.
Not all their output is prog, especially the first albums, but Controlling Crowd is a great album which I think is prog enough.
First album was Trip Hop, Rap to normal folk and the 2nd undeniably pop, but the 3rd onwards are impossible to classify without being too eclectic either. The Floyd though started as a live dance act then Psyche outfit then prog, so similar patterns.
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