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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2004 at 19:59
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

I guess the fact that drugs kill more people in this country than guns means nothing to you at all.

Yes it does, but it is a seperate issue.

No its not...  LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

However, banning guns does not get rid of them, just like banning drugs hasn't seemed to decrease their availability here either.

What a silly thing to say.People still drink and drive,rob,assault,murder people even though there is legislation against these things,so should we decriminalise them?

Actually I think what you said is quite silly. Drinking alcohol is legal here... as it evidently is in your country.  So having legislation against driving while drunk means nothing, if you can continue to drink.LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

I think all of you have good intentions, but a non-realistic look at the situation.

So basically we do nothing and that is OK? That is your realistic answer to the situation.How can banning guns not be a good thing? Explain.

Thats evidently your look at is.  Mine would be to come up with solutions surrounding the people holding the guns... not the guns themselves.  Someone who has the mentality to kill someone could care less about the vehicle used.LOLLOLLOL

You couldnt make this stuff up. I think the word I am looking for is

BULLsh*t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOLLOLLOL



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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2004 at 20:04

LOLLOLJeez, it is difficult to type when you are rolling on the floor laughingLOLLOL

Right, oh I am just about oh no

LOLLOLLOLLOL

And they give these people the voteLOLLOLLOL

oh help!LOLLOL

NOW GET IN THE KITCHEN AND MAKE ME SOME PIE!Confused



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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2004 at 20:07

If only they had one of these:



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Hey, at least if we're invaded they 'll have to contend with millions of nutty mountain militia citizens as well as our armed forces. The world hasn't experienced partisan activity until you invaded the US...

I say this in jest of course......carry on the argument and please ignore me.
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The problem with that, Arioch, is the mountain militias may be the ones trying to overthrow your gov't.
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Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

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and I'm not saying you are thick, although sometimes evidence points otherwise, just that's what about 3 billion people all think.

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Actually all the evidence I've seen says the opposite, but then I guess you read backwards to.  And I'm sure I'm not the only one here who thinks that... just the only one who doesn't ignore you....
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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2004 at 01:11
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

LOLLOLJeez, it is difficult to type when you are rolling on the floor laughingLOLLOL

Right, oh I am just about oh no

LOLLOLLOLLOL

And they give these people the voteLOLLOLLOL

oh help!LOLLOL

NOW GET IN THE KITCHEN AND MAKE ME SOME PIE!Confused

Actually I think its people like you that proves the need for guns.
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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2004 at 06:45
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

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and I'm not saying you are thick, although sometimes evidence points otherwise, just that's what about 3 billion people all think.

Big smile

Actually all the evidence I've seen says the opposite, but then I guess you read backwards to.  And I'm sure I'm not the only one here who thinks that... just the only one who doesn't ignore you....

LOL

DOH,I am not saying you are thick, although your reading is obviously patchy,I said your country's poulation is perceived as being thick-not quite the same thing.

The greatest form of gun control is not to ban them is it?

Like I said LOLLOLLOL



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Points: 4097 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2004 at 07:06
Unfortunately I can't find the link, but a while ago I looked at a table comparing deaths from shootings with legality of firearms, and several countries where firearms are outlawed had higher death rates from shootings then the USA. I'm not sure of the exact circumstances of the data, and for what it's worth I'm on the anti-gun side, but it does demonstrate that the issue isn't as simple as some people assume.


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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2004 at 07:09

No but banning guns would be an obvious start.Confused

I'm not saying that it will solve the problem overnight, but it is the obvious start.

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Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

LOLLOLJeez, it is difficult to type when you are rolling on the floor laughingLOLLOL

Right, oh I am just about oh no

LOLLOLLOLLOL

And they give these people the voteLOLLOLLOL

oh help!LOLLOL

NOW GET IN THE KITCHEN AND MAKE ME SOME PIE!Confused

Actually I think its people like you that proves the need for guns.

See -this gun thing is ingrained in you.Angry

You want to shoot me for being anti-gun!Confused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who are all these people who are too frightened/polite to say I'm thick?
Now that is stupid!
Sticks and stones etc.
If you are passionate about something-you've got to talk with passion.
Anyone who thinks gun ownership is ok deserves to be hoisted with their own petard.But actually no they dont because nobody deserves that!Confused



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All I can say is that I don't like guns. Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.
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Carrying a gun is legal, smoking pot is illegal.

I'm glad I don't live in the USA.

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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2004 at 14:34
Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Carrying a gun is legal, smoking pot is illegal.

I'm glad I don't live in the USA.

Me too, apparently you deserve to be shot for speaking out against the gun-lovers!Dead



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Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Carrying a gun is legal, smoking pot is illegal.

I'm glad I don't live in the USA.

Me too! I'm glad you don't live the USA either.
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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2004 at 16:44
Originally posted by Arioch Arioch wrote:

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Carrying a gun is legal, smoking pot is illegal.

I'm glad I don't live in the USA.

Me too! I'm glad you don't live the USA either.

Me too... since its probably most of the pot smoking crowd doing the shooting anyway.
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Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Carrying a gun is legal, smoking pot is illegal.

I'm glad I don't live in the USA.

Me too, apparently you deserve to be shot for speaking out against the gun-lovers!Dead

Why people would want to shoot you has nothing to do with your stance on gun control.... far from it!!

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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2004 at 16:49
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Carrying a gun is legal, smoking pot is illegal.

I'm glad I don't live in the USA.

Me too, apparently you deserve to be shot for speaking out against the gun-lovers!Dead

Why people would want to shoot you has nothing to do with your stance on gun control.... far from it!!

Tongue

Who moi?

Have you made me that pie yet?LOL
Or maybe I should make the pie....anyone for humble?Confused
Nah, not my style.
Wonder how you get yourself thrown off this place?Dead

 



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Points: 3525 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2004 at 19:49

I think the point is about freedom. If you're against freedom, that's fine; history proves that most of the truly effective countries have extremely restrictive governments.

I'll continue to hold out for more freedom, even for things I don't care for. I don't own a gun (I probably couldn't legally purchase one anyway, but I haven't tried) and I hate the thought of killing animals for fun. So did my father, an avid hunter in his youth, who taught me from a young age how to operate and have respect for guns.

But when it comes down to having less freedom or more, it's a clear choice for me.
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