Prog electronic, in hopes that Zeuhl will live to see another day

Logan wrote: someone_else wrote: A strategic vote for RIO/Avant-Prog. I want to keep Zeuhl, Post/Math and Symph aboard. Interesting.  I consider Zeuhl to be a sub-category of Avant Prog and of course Magma plays RIO fests and influenced some RIO bands, including perhaps my favourite band, Art Zoyd.

Agreed, but I listen more to Zeuhl than to any other RIO/Avant-Prog:
some of the Magma albums (Köhntarkösz, K.A. and Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré) are my fevourites, but Eider Stellaire's debut album and Weidorje cannot do anything wrong with me either. That's why I wanted to keep the Zeuhl subgenre inside, even at the cost of its supergenre.

This was just opportunistic voting; I'd rather see three or four other subgenres go first.

Edited by someone_else - January 08 2014 at 07:05

Zeuhl can't have so bad ratings! I'm sure that all the guys who voted for zeuhl didn't try to get into the music of Magma. Even just for them, zeuhl deserves better. Sub-genres mustn't shut music in limited labels! This is the most meaningless and foolish poll that can be.


Edited by MonsterMagnet - January 08 2014 at 14:14

Triceratopsoil wrote: Hercules wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: Logan wrote: Hercules has mentioned a shift in tastes at PA towards more experimental music, which has alienated a certain kind of Progger (hope I'm getting that right), but I don't think that shift is enough to save my favourites. That's because said shift doesn't exist, it's just his persecution complex talking. Been a user here almost 4 years and it's still only the same very small group of active users who actually listen to that kind of (good) stuff What an obnoxious person you are, casting insults at anyone who disagrees with you.   I've not got a persecution complex at all - I've been here a lot longer than you and know loads of users personally who've gone off the site (I used to use the site through my late partner's account since 2003 before I registered in my own right after he died). How is that an insult?  It's a sofa diagnosis.  "Obnoxious," on the other hand, certainly is an insult.

I don't normally do this, especially when I'm not involved in the conversation to start with, but I have to say that I genuinely enjoyed the way you guys just exchanged words. Something a lot of people on this site could learn a lot from.

Polymorphia wrote: Sagichim wrote: I agree Greg, I think a lot of people who thinks to get into Zehul go for Magma because they are so highly rated, I believe it's a mistake since they are very hard to digest even for several listenings. I didn't like Magma for a long time but thankfully discovered Zehul by listening to the bands you posted plus Weidorje which opened the floodgate, then the road to Magma was a lot easier. Interesting that you say this, because I got into Zeuhl via Magma. I didn't like them first listen, but for some reason their sound sat in my memory in an appealing way, and when I went back to them, I was completely floored. Different people, different routes of appreciation, I suppose.

Of course. There isn't only one way to get into the kobaians.

^ Try some of the earlier tracks in the thread.  There actually might be better Eskatn ones to try first even if Attente (think that's what I posted) is the one that first grabbed me.

Sagichim wrote: Polymorphia wrote: Sagichim wrote: I agree Greg, I think a lot of people who thinks to get into Zehul go for Magma because they are so highly rated, I believe it's a mistake since they are very hard to digest even for several listenings. I didn't like Magma for a long time but thankfully discovered Zehul by listening to the bands you posted plus Weidorje which opened the floodgate, then the road to Magma was a lot easier. Interesting that you say this, because I got into Zeuhl via Magma. I didn't like them first listen, but for some reason their sound sat in my memory in an appealing way, and when I went back to them, I was completely floored. Different people, different routes of appreciation, I suppose. Of course. There isn't only one way to get into the kobaians.

Yep, I got into Magma laterally so-to-speak.  The way I  explored the categories at this site before joining (did this for a long time before joining) was going through the mp3s of each category looking for music that would quickly click -- I'd play a bit of one of one track and if it didn' t quickly appeal I'd move on.  I was a real noob to the vast majority of music under this prog umbrella.  I was already really into lots of the lesser-known Zeuhl bands before I really approached Magma (knowing the others did make it easier to get into Magma).  I totally get that "sound sticking in your memory" even if you don;t really like the music at first.  I was like that with Gentle Giant and my first mp3 player (before buying albums I downloaded several of their songs).  It was the Free Hand track that just got into me, and then I adored it.  Same happened to me me with Gentle Giant's Way of Life later on.

Incidentally, I was going to post a Weidorje track too, but decided against it as I thought it might scare off some people, as that was one of the first that I also got into.

On a side-note, and this might scare off some people, so be warned:  For those possible people that think Zeuhl is just about flowers, butterflies, rainbows and naked nymphs, ;), here is one of the darker expressions in the Zeuhl universe (and no, I'm not talkign about Magma's Ooh, Ooh Baby for those looking for more irony than I intended).

Padraic wrote: Logan wrote: For those possible people that think Zeuhl is just about flowers, butterflies, rainbows and naked nymphs, ;),  I thought it was about aliens brutally destroying the earth.

But only because they don't like flowers, butterflies, rainbows, and... well, most everyone likes a naked nymph.

ZEUHL??? Noooooooo

Oh goodness no, this poll has no effect on the actual site. It's just the poll creator's interest, yea. It's just sad to see so many people don't like zeuhl.