Subgenres Knockout Poll Pt7
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Topic: Subgenres Knockout Poll Pt7
Posted By: Stool Man
Subject: Subgenres Knockout Poll Pt7
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 08:33
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Goodbye to Prog Related, crammed with bands we all love, but just not prog enough to stay the course.
I'm going to start noting which subgenres got zero votes in the previous week's poll, just as a matter of interest.
Eclectic Prog, Jazz Rock/Fusion, and Psychedelic/Space Rock all had no votes last time.
Next week we'll see if this differs just because I mentioned it.
Remember to vote for your LEAST favourite subgenre. ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 08:52
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Sorry prog electronic...
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 09:08
| cya symphonic |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 09:13
| I'm tërribli zörry, Zeuhl |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 10:10
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A strategic vote for RIO/Avant-Prog. I want to keep Zeuhl, Post/Math and Symph aboard. ------------- 
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 10:22
| symph |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 10:23
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RIO for me.
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 10:38
Don't tell me Avant is gonna get axed. 
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 10:51
It is if I have anything to do with it. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
irrelevant wrote:Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 10:54
Naturally.  ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 10:54
| Same as before: Symph. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 10:57
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This is hard now - I love loads of acts and albums featured in these subs. I don't listen to as much symphonic more though, so that's where my vote goes, but we're down to nit-picking here.
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 11:04
| I don't like Post Rock |
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 11:23
 ------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging." Albert Camus |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 12:31
| Don't die on me, Avant. :( |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 12:35
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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 12:51
From what it looks like now, it most likely will. If not anything unexpected happens of course. ------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 12:57
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I'll have to wait until much later to see where my tactical vote goes to try & save RIO and Zeuhl. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 13:58
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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 14:43
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Zeuhl was almost knocked out a few weeks ago, but managed to stay alive very well after that, until now, because it's just passed RIO/Avant-Prog.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 14:48
| I predict the next 3-4 polls will consist of all the best genres getting knocked out |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 15:02
Interesting. I consider Zeuhl to be a sub-category of Avant Prog and of course Magma plays RIO fests and influenced some RIO bands, including perhaps my favourite band, Art Zoyd.
Agreed. I'd almost sooner someone cut off my manhood... It's rather sad for me to see three of my favourite categories with as many votes already as they have (RIO?Avant, Progressive Electronic, and Zeuhl). I'm not sure how I'll vote. I'm leaning towards symph even though it has some of my favourite albums in it (especially in the French symph scene). Nah, I can't do it. I might go with Proto-Prog or Post-Rock... Erm, maybe Crossover... *throws in the towel* don't think I'll vote. I don't think that any of my particular favourite categories will get to the end even if Krautrock has done well so far. Hercules has mentioned a shift in tastes at PA towards more experimental music, which has alienated a certain kind of Progger (hope I'm getting that right), but I don't think that shift is enough to save my favourites. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 15:10
That's because said shift doesn't exist, it's just his persecution complex talking. Been a user here almost 4 years and it's still only the same very small group of active users who actually listen to that kind of (good) stuff |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 15:10
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Zeuhl again. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 15:33
Except that symph has a chance of getting knocked out, so the poll has got that going for it, which is nice. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 15:45
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^^ Colin: "You might think that, you might very well think that; I could
not possibly comment"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8RjPAD2Jk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8RjPAD2Jk That classic Urquhart line said, I will comment a bit, I haven't really observed the phenomenon either (and must admit that it was a bit of a troll from me -- sorry 'bout that). Perhaps there has been some shift since the really early days of the PA forum (I was lurking around here since the beginning, basically, and do think that there are more who are into less bog-standard Prog now, but then the site has grown, so it's to be expected, but then one would expect more boggers here too). The "avanteers", though a select few, may be more vocal than they once were, and perhaps are not as marginalised as they once were. I once bumped an old Arena vs. Area poll, and Arena was way ahead when I bumped it, but after I bumped it most people voted for Area (which is not to imply that Arena is bog music; just an example, y' know, of a more experimental act, though more of a classic too, against another). That said, Neo-Prog, of course, often displeases the older classic Prog "worked as a roadie with Yes when they were still good" set. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 16:19
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Post/Math ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 17:13
What an obnoxious person you are, casting insults at anyone who disagrees with you. I've not got a persecution complex at all - I've been here a lot longer than you and know loads of users personally who've gone off the site (I used to use the site through my late partner's account since 2003 before I registered in my own right after he died). ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 17:55
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Yeah, best this not get any more personal than it already is (or it's really already past that point, so less personal...). * PA, the impersonal forum for impersonal people*. ;) I do regret bringing up your name, Hercules, and wouldn't have had you not posted in this thread already. I think PA should have space for all sorts of different tastes and opinions, but I guess it's not always that easy to come across as respectful when talking about our tastes. Did your friends leave the site because they felt persecuted and maligned by PA users, or was it more just because the focus shifted for a lot of users from the kind of music (Melodic Prog, for instance) they liked best? I have seen changes here in tastes -- Dream Theater, for instance, once seemed far more popular than it is now. In fact, at one time every poll on the front page was a Dream Theater poll (mind you, that was a joint effort by DT appreciators and detractors). There's no use dwelling on the past, though, if PA has changed, so be it. I'm glad that this site embraces more music than it once did (its expanded in scope and so has the user-base from my observations since I was first visiting here). I think people are generally pretty respectful in their musical opinions here. I really don't see as much bashing as I once did, at least not from me (that's a little rather egotistical joke, by the way). I think it's okay to express that you don't like certain music -- especially if you try to give reasons, and are open to other opinions (just as one should feel free to praise music but be open to different opinions) but I digress. On a side-note: I thought the value of a poll series such as this would b getting all PA tastes under one roof and hopefully exposing people to music new-to-them that they might like -- maybe someone will come to appreciate a category, or at least music from it, that they didn't like or know before thanks to these polls. |
Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 18:52
| Strategic vote for Zeuhl, to help save RIO. |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 19:19
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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 19:30
 ------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 19:41
How is that an insult? It's a sofa diagnosis. "Obnoxious," on the other hand, certainly is an insult. See also for reference -
I'm not the problem here. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 20:33
It does. I welcome any argument that states otherwise. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 21:00
"We are going to have peace even if we have to fight for it" (Dwight D. Eisenhower). |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 23:44
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How can Krautrock still be here? (Not that I actively dislike any of the subgenres, but come on!) ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: January 07 2014 at 23:53
| ^ I used to dislike Krautrock when I got into prog but changed my mind over the years when I gradually discovered a few exceptional gems, and of course with some help from a few respectable gentlemens here. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 00:16
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Why does people dislike Zeuhl so much? Never visited Kobaia?
I vote for Heavy again. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 00:57
Maybe they've only visited a airly small suburb of Kobaia and haven't visited the non-Magma worlds. Magma wasn't the first Zeuhl band I got into. These may be the first three tracks I heard that hooked me when I first started to explore the category (not to say that it would hook others): |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 01:23
| I agree Greg, I think a lot of people who thinks to get into Zehul go for Magma because they are so highly rated, I believe it's a mistake since they are very hard to digest even for several listenings. I didn't like Magma for a long time but thankfully discovered Zehul by listening to the bands you posted plus Weidorje which opened the floodgate, then the road to Magma was a lot easier. |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 02:17
| Prog electronic, in hopes that Zeuhl will live to see another day |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 05:46
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Poor Zeuhl getting a beating this time. Forget Magma and listen to some of the other acts in that sub. Eskaton and Weidorje have already been mentioned but more samples won't hurt.
http://www.progarchives.com/mp3.asp?id=1485" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/mp3.asp?id=1485 If you don't like those two tracks then chances are Zeuhl ain't gonna be for you. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 07:03
Agreed, but I listen more to Zeuhl than to any other RIO/Avant-Prog: some of the Magma albums (Köhntarkösz, K.A. and Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré) are my fevourites, but Eider Stellaire's debut album and Weidorje cannot do anything wrong with me either. That's why I wanted to keep the Zeuhl subgenre inside, even at the cost of its supergenre. This was just opportunistic voting; I'd rather see three or four other subgenres go first. -------------
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 07:34
Weidorje first Zeuhl listen, checking in |
Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 07:45
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Zeuhl can't have so bad ratings! I'm sure that all the guys who voted for zeuhl didn't try to get into the music of Magma. Even just for them, zeuhl deserves better. Sub-genres mustn't shut music in limited labels! This is the most meaningless and foolish poll that can be. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 10:55
I have no problem whatsoever with you for quoting my name as you were being perfectly reasonable. My only issue is with name calling and abuse and you were guilty of neither. Their reasons for leaving were occasionally the former (thankfully rarely) but mainly the latter - they felt many new bands had been admitted to the site which were not genuinely progressive and diluted the focus of the group. They tended to prefer more classical prog, so the focus has unquestionably shifted. Also, as you say, the hordes of DT fans who once dominated the polls section seem to have disappeared; if they were still here, prog metal would not have been evicted so early! ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 11:00
If you genuinely don't think that falsely accusing someone of having a persecution complex is insulting, than you really have got problems that need addressing. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 13:40
Thanks, I really appreciate your response. I'm not always the most tactful of people and am socially awkward, so I often am concerned about how I come across. You've explained really well. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 13:48
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I don't normally do this, especially when I'm not involved in the conversation to start with, but I have to say that I genuinely enjoyed the way you guys just exchanged words. Something a lot of people on this site could learn a lot from.
Logan is widely known as the in-house avant and strange music guru, whereas Hercules is one of the most knowledgeable chaps around concerning the melodic side of prog. Two very different interests in music, yet both are able to communicate in a friendly and altogether understandable manner. Have some clappies big boys  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 13:57
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 14:08
Of course. There isn't only one way to get into the kobaians. |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 14:25
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I love Dun's Eros but I must admit that the Magma that I have listened to has not grown on me. I keep playing it and not really liking it. I haven't heard any other Zeuhl. I will try out a couple of other bands to see what I think eventually. ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 15:20
^ Try some of the earlier tracks in the thread. There actually might be better Eskatn ones to try first even if Attente (think that's what I posted) is the one that first grabbed me.
Yep, I got into Magma laterally so-to-speak. The way I explored the categories at this site before joining (did this for a long time before joining) was going through the mp3s of each category looking for music that would quickly click -- I'd play a bit of one of one track and if it didn' t quickly appeal I'd move on. I was a real noob to the vast majority of music under this prog umbrella. I was already really into lots of the lesser-known Zeuhl bands before I really approached Magma (knowing the others did make it easier to get into Magma). I totally get that "sound sticking in your memory" even if you don;t really like the music at first. I was like that with Gentle Giant and my first mp3 player (before buying albums I downloaded several of their songs). It was the Free Hand track that just got into me, and then I adored it. Same happened to me me with Gentle Giant's Way of Life later on. Incidentally, I was going to post a Weidorje track too, but decided against it as I thought it might scare off some people, as that was one of the first that I also got into. On a side-note, and this might scare off some people, so be warned: For those possible people that think Zeuhl is just about flowers, butterflies, rainbows and naked nymphs, ;), here is one of the darker expressions in the Zeuhl universe (and no, I'm not talkign about Magma's Ooh, Ooh Baby for those looking for more irony than I intended). |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 15:26
I thought it was about aliens brutally destroying the earth.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 16:32
But only because they don't like flowers, butterflies, rainbows, and... well, most everyone likes a naked nymph. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 16:42
Russian Zeuhl - Синкопированная Тишина - Протобаян |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 17:40
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ZEUHL??? Noooooooo
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Posted By: King Only
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 21:09
| I'm confused... Does this poll have any real impact on the actual content of this website? That is, will the least popular genres actually be removed from the Prog Archives website? Or is this poll just for the poll creator's personal interest? |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 21:10
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Oh goodness no, this poll has no effect on the actual site. It's just the poll creator's interest, yea. It's just sad to see so many people don't like zeuhl.
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Posted By: King Only
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 21:14
Okay, thanks for making that clear Andy! Personally, I like the fact that this site has a huge range of different music and artists. There's always new artists to discover.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 21:28
That would certainly make a lot of collabs life easier. However, even though I voted for symph, a prog rock site that doesn't have Genesis and Yes would be a tad silly.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 21:56
Don't look now, but they already deleted Prog Metal |
Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 22:51
No... it has real impact on actual life. A team of PA members will be dispatched to traverse the globe and ensure that all bands in the least popular genres are disbanded immediately & permanently... by any means necessary. UPDATE: For each successful disbanding, Rick Wakeman has promised to release a new album, but has refused to guarantee their quality. |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: January 08 2014 at 23:10
I’m actually shocked and confused to see Symphonic Prog right up amongst the highest voted. I mean, I simply figured that there would be endless love and support for….you know - many of the bands/artists that actually helped shape the progressive genre itself! 
As much as I don't agree with it, I'm not surprised to see both RIO/Zuehl up there, only because both of those styles can definitely be difficult for newcomers to approach or get into. Both can be intimidating and off-putting, but are well worth the perseverance when you discover something good! 
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Posted By: frankbostick
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 10:39
| Electronic. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 10:51
What is the "progressive genre"?
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 10:53
just for fun  ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 10:56
Stuff like The Flower Kings. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 11:13
TFK is the progressive genre, really.  ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 11:14
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Progressive Electronic by a mile -------------  |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 11:18
Yes I agree with everything you said. ------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 16:05
The Symph category does contain some fine bands, but at the same time, the symph sub is also filled with bands that give a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of listeners, including myself. Anyways, the "progressive" sound that symph has helped shape (ie TFK), as illustrated by a few comments above me, is one of which many listeners have grown tired, whereas some of the prog that such listeners enjoy that is currently being released, is influenced by bands from other subgenres sometimes even excluding symphonic. tl;dr A lot of people are appreciative, but tired of symph, and find more consistence and quality in other subgenres. |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 16:20
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Voted for Post/Math rock as I still don't believe it exists. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 16:21
Symph was pretty much my favourite category in PA at a time before I joined, but I mostly stopped looking for music described primarily as Symphonic Prog., I do think that it's probably grown rather stale for various people, and when it comes to modern music, for me it's one of the weakest categories (not that I've sought out a lot of modern music from it since I've heard enough that I disliked, but some that I do really like like Kotebel, Karda Esta, and Anglagard.. I would also suspect, though, that some have voted for it strategically since it is a "big gun: and therefore perceived as a threat to people's particular favourites. I did vote for Symph in the end -- Arachnoid as well as some other Frenchies are pretty damned good, though, as are symphish ones listed as RPI. |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 16:36
I've also heard Magma's debut (the only Zeuhl album I actually own), and I like that one very much as well, but after that my knowledge of the sub-genre is fairly limited. I enjoyed all the tracks posted in this thread though, so it's fair to say my Zeuhl-exploring will continue. -------------
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 16:36
Explain? ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 16:42
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: January 09 2014 at 16:44
Its a joke (ish) I don't see what makes it distinctive as a genre. But, I haven't really made an effort to listen to much of it either so I shouldn't vote really - but it looks like this round is more or less complete anyway. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: January 10 2014 at 00:16
| I actually thought Zehul would be one of the first genres to go, so I'm happy it stayed longer but still sad it has to go now. |
Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: January 10 2014 at 12:11
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Don't want to but I'llcontinue to pile the votes on zeuhl because ill be sad if avant or electronic or post rock gets the boot ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ramza1316" rel="nofollow - www.last.fm/user/ramza1316 https://open.spotify.com/user/1211221845" rel="nofollow - https://open.spotify.com/user/1211221845 |
Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: January 10 2014 at 13:09
It's not gonna force you to change as a person or anything if they go. ANother vote for Zeuhl by me.
------------- https://twitter.com/ProgFollower" rel="nofollow - @ProgFollower on Twitter. Tweet me muzak. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 10 2014 at 13:12
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: January 10 2014 at 13:27
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 10 2014 at 13:46
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Please, think of the children! (and then don't vote against Zeuh justl because you suspect that they have a fanatical father/ fathers making them sing -- or drum -- along to this stuff) And no, none of these are my kids. Though I've got my kids to burp along with me to Maahnt. This is a classic: little girl does K.A. in the car: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3gt7f_jade-chante-magma_music" rel="nofollow - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3gt7f_jade-chante-magma_music Hhai there! A future replacement for Christian Vander? No, n, no, n, no (maybe not, but it;s early days yet) |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: January 10 2014 at 16:44
| Zeuhl is ceuhl |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: January 10 2014 at 20:04
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Looks like I forgot to vote. Well I'll vote for Progressive Electronic.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: January 12 2014 at 09:54
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new poll tomorrow - come on, Zeuhl fans!!! ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: January 12 2014 at 09:58
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Another vote for Zeuhl for their fans forcing their kids to sing (or drum) along with Dads records. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |