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The Bearded Bard
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 14:43 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Let's see...I have many favourites I'm sure most prog fans generally hate...70's - Black Sabbath, Grateful Dead, Al Green, Sex Pistols, The Tubes, Rolling Stones, AC/DC (Bon Scott fronted only) 80's new wave - The Pretenders 80's US hardcore punk - Dead Kennedy's, DRI, Suicidal Tendencies, The Minutemen, Black Flag, Husker Du, Joe Pop-O-Pie, X Alternative - REM, The Pixies, Dinosaur Jr Doom/Stoner Metal - Cathedral, Candlemass, My Dying Bride, Novembers Doom, Cephalic Carnage, Type-O-Negative, Electric Wizard Death/Black Metal - Sepultura, Enslaved, Celtic Frost, Tryptikon, Burning Witch, Catacombs Other - Christian Death, The Damned, Sad Lovers and Giants, Trance to the Sun |
I have to agree with Andrey here, I think many of these are not hated by prog fans in general. Black Sabbath, My Dying Bride and Enslaved are on PA, so I guess we can cross those off the list. I myself enjoy both Black Sabbath and Enslaved. I've not checked out MDB.
Of the others I like both AC/DC and REM to some extent, and I know there are appreciators of Grateful Dead, Sex Pistols, Rolling Stones, The Minutemen and Hüsker Dü, among others, on this site other than you. That doesn't necesserily mean that they're not hated by prog fans in general, as PA doesn't represent all progressive rock fans in the world, but it gives us an idea of how eclectic many prog fans' musical tastes in can be.
Edited by The Bearded Bard - August 03 2013 at 14:46
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 18:03 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ I didn't know prog fans hate all of these. |
<span style="line-height: 1.2;">I have run into some PA members who are fans of most bands in the above list, but I think they're the exception to the rule and since the thread is "Bands prog fans </span><b style="line-height: 1.2;">generally <span style="line-height: 1.2;">hate but u like" I still think it's a good list. </span> Happy to be proven wrong though...what bands on my list do you like |
Sepultura and Sabbath!!!! This progger loves them like you.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: August 03 2013 at 19:44 |
The Bearded Bard wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Let's see...I have many favourites I'm sure most prog fans generally hate...70's - Black Sabbath, Grateful Dead, Al Green, Sex Pistols, The Tubes, Rolling Stones, AC/DC (Bon Scott fronted only) 80's new wave - The Pretenders 80's US hardcore punk - Dead Kennedy's, DRI, Suicidal Tendencies, The Minutemen, Black Flag, Husker Du, Joe Pop-O-Pie, X Alternative - REM, The Pixies, Dinosaur Jr Doom/Stoner Metal - Cathedral, Candlemass, My Dying Bride, Novembers Doom, Cephalic Carnage, Type-O-Negative, Electric Wizard Death/Black Metal - Sepultura, Enslaved, Celtic Frost, Tryptikon, Burning Witch, Catacombs Other - Christian Death, The Damned, Sad Lovers and Giants, Trance to the Sun | I have to agree with Andrey here, I think many of these are not hated by prog fans in general. Black Sabbath, My Dying Bride and Enslaved are on PA, so I guess we can cross those off the list. I myself enjoy both Black Sabbath and Enslaved. I've not checked out MDB.
Of the others I like both AC/DC and REM to some extent, and I know there are appreciators of Grateful Dead, Sex Pistols, Rolling Stones, The Minutemen and Hüsker Dü, among others, on this site other than you. That doesn't necesserily mean that they're not hated by prog fans in general, as PA doesn't represent all progressive rock fans in the world, but it gives us an idea of how eclectic many prog fans' musical tastes in can be. |
This is good to hear. Prog fans by their nature should be inquisitive and willing to explore related genre's and bands that fall outside their comfort zone...but this wasn't always the case in my experience. I'm finding there's a big difference between the range of bands enjoyed by my PA brothers and sisters, versus the prog fans I used to know in the pre-internet days. Back then, it was a very rigid community and any bands that fell outside the box (most of the ones on my list) were looked down upon with scorn and derision.
Even Peter Gabriel seemed aware of this elitism. On his 1980 tour with Random Hold as the opener. To begin the show, PG came onstage first and told us how much he liked them and virtually begged the audience to give Random Hold a chance. I loved them from the first note, but after the show every one of my prog friends just despised them...and I could never understand why they wouldn't try something new?
Even in the early internet days there was a well known prog site run by a guy that would review albums. I'd try to get him to acknowledge the prog-ness of some of the albums by bands on my above list. The response from his ivory prog tower was always, "they're not really prog so my readers wouldn't like them". I'd argue, "Well, I'm one of your readers and I like them!" But the argument fell on deaf ears. Oh well...
Hurray for PA
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 00:44 |
The Bearded Bard wrote:
I myself enjoy both Black Sabbath and Enslaved. I've not checked out MDB.
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There's really 2 different flavours of My Dying Bride...the doom metal and the goth metal. The first album "As the Flower Withers" is slow, sludgy, doom metal at it's grunt and growl vokill finest. The 2nd album "Turn Loose the Swans" is similar though the vocals are now both growl and clean and some spoken narration. All the albums after that changed direction to a goth-metal approach with clean vocals. and the best of those is 2004's "Songs of Darkness, Words of Light".
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 00:47 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
[QUOTE=The Bearded Bard]">I myself enjoy both Black Sabbath and Enslaved. I've not checked out MDB.
[/QUOTE">There's really 2 different flavours of My Dying Bride...the doom metal and the goth metal. The first album "As the Flower Withers" is slow, sludgy, doom metal at it's grunt and growl vokill finest. The 2nd album "Turn Loose the Swans" is similar though the vocals are now both growl and clean and some spoken narration. All the albums after that changed direction to a goth-metal approach with clean vocals. and the best of those is 2004's "Songs of Darkness, Words of Light".</span> |
Love that band too, Mr King, and especially that album. Probably the one of theirs that I return to the most...although I haven't been able to track the latest one in stores down here. Might just have to stop stalling and order the damn thing online!
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 12:05 |
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
[QUOTE=The Bearded Bard]">I myself enjoy both Black Sabbath and Enslaved. I've not checked out MDB.
[/QUOTE">There's really 2 different flavours of My Dying Bride...the doom metal and the goth metal. The first album "As the Flower Withers" is slow, sludgy, doom metal at it's grunt and growl vokill finest. The 2nd album "Turn Loose the Swans" is similar though the vocals are now both growl and clean and some spoken narration. All the albums after that changed direction to a goth-metal approach with clean vocals. and the best of those is 2004's "Songs of Darkness, Words of Light".</span> |
Love that band too, Mr King, and especially that album. Probably the one of theirs that I return to the most...although I haven't been able to track the latest one in stores down here. Might just have to stop stalling and order the damn thing online! |
Haven't heard "A Map of All Our Failures" but you just gotta love an album that the guitarist describes as "a controlled demolition of all your hopes"
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 05 2013 at 12:18 |
^ oooooh sounds like a another dark, moody bitch to me. I might give it a go.
I dare prog music to try and depress me. Lol
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: August 11 2013 at 23:47 |
Oh yea...forgot to mention one of my favourites that I guarantee most prog fans will hate. Hole. I love the first three albums...
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octopus-4
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Posted: September 01 2013 at 14:00 |
I love Arlo Guthrie, The Clash and Patti Smith
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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progbethyname
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Posted: September 01 2013 at 15:04 |
Sisters of Mercy.
It is in my experience that a lot of proggers don't really love or appreciate the Goth art form of music, although their are a few here on PA that dig it. ;) Mr. Crimson King could you please step forward....and take a bow my goth brethren. Lol
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Moogtron III
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Posted: September 01 2013 at 15:40 |
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I absolutely love Tears For Fears
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Me too, great band. I went to TFF concerts twice
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: September 01 2013 at 22:22 |
Moogtron III wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
I absolutely love Tears For Fears
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Me too, great band. I went to TFF concerts twice |
I enjoy Depeche Mode, and can enjoy some other 80's new wave bands. I also enjoy listening to the Clash and the Sex Pistols, as well as some other punkish bands on occasion. Counting Crows, System of a Down, Pearl Jam, Dave Matthews, as well as some other 90's alternative bands. I don't know how prog fans generally feel about these bands, but I'd imagine they are generally disliked.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: September 01 2013 at 23:17 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
The Bearded Bard wrote:
I myself enjoy both Black Sabbath and Enslaved. I've not checked out MDB.
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There's really 2 different flavours of My Dying Bride...the doom metal and the goth metal. The first album "As the Flower Withers" is slow, sludgy, doom metal at it's grunt and growl vokill finest. The 2nd album "Turn Loose the Swans" is similar though the vocals are now both growl and clean and some spoken narration. All the albums after that changed direction to a goth-metal approach with clean vocals. and the best of those is 2004's "Songs of Darkness, Words of Light". | 'Songs of Darkness, Words of Light' looks for me like an attempt to re-create their earlier doom sound actually. I haven't heard their entire discography but out of what I have heard their first two album are the most interesting to my ears.
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This night wounds time.
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progbethyname
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Posted: September 01 2013 at 23:27 |
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
I absolutely love Tears For Fears
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Me too, great band. I went to TFF concerts <span style="line-height: 1.2;">twice</span> | I enjoy Depeche Mode, and can enjoy some other 80's new wave bands.I also enjoy listening to the Clash and the Sex Pistols, as well as some other punkish bands on occasion.Counting Crows, System of a Down, Pearl Jam, Dave Matthews, as well as some other 90's alternative bands. I don't know how prog fans generally feel about these bands, but I'd imagine they are generally disliked. |
I'm with ya on The Depeche Mode all the way. Those guys helped shape my love for electronic/goth music at a young age, especially the Broken Flame album and Speak and Spell. Wow.
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progbethyname
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Posted: September 01 2013 at 23:29 |
Moogtron III wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
I absolutely love Tears For Fears
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Me too, great band. I went to TFF concerts <span style="line-height: 1.2;">twice</span> |
Lucky guy. I never saw them...
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progbethyname
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Posted: September 01 2013 at 23:30 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Oh yea...forgot to mention one of my favourites that I guarantee most prog fans will hate. Hole. I love the first three albums... |
Yup. This progger don't do Hole.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: September 02 2013 at 00:36 |
progbethyname wrote:
I absolutely love Tears For Fears |
When did I miss this?! `The Hurting' is one of my favourite pop albums, if only `pop' was frequently as thoughtful, intelligent and....`proggy' as this, commercial music would be a lot more bearable!
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Polymorphia
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Posted: September 02 2013 at 19:57 |
progbethyname wrote:
Sisters of Mercy.
It is in my experience that a lot of proggers don't really love or appreciate the Goth art form of music, although their are a few here on PA that dig it. ;) Mr. Crimson King could you please step forward....and take a bow my goth brethren. Lol
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Love me some Sisters, although I prefer the Cure and Siouxsie. There are actually quite a few individuals on here who like goth rock. Check the post-punk/New Wave thread.
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 00:36 |
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progbethyname
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 00:39 |
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