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Posted: August 20 2013 at 06:48
CTTE is a five-star album no doubt, but Fragile is closer to my heart aesthetically. CTTE doesn't have the most lovely Five % for Nothing and The Fish.
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Posted: August 20 2013 at 07:37
Snow Dog wrote:
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cstack3 wrote:
I saw the CTTE show in Chicago on 22 September, 1972, and the band performed the entire work flawlessly. Squire was all over the stage, he had a roadie dedicated to feeding his bass guitar chord & then reeling it back in when he moved the other direction!! Squire would sing, play bass and bass pedals simultaneously.
The Taurus bas pedals were not released until 1974-1975. It had to be effects pedals.
True. I never heard bass pedals in Yes music.
"That was an unaccompanied bass pedal solo from Christopher Squire".
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Posted: August 20 2013 at 11:56
chopper wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Gerinski wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
I saw the CTTE show in Chicago on 22 September, 1972, and the band performed the entire work flawlessly. Squire was all over the stage, he had a roadie dedicated to feeding his bass guitar chord & then reeling it back in when he moved the other direction!! Squire would sing, play bass and bass pedals simultaneously.
The Taurus bas pedals were not released until 1974-1975. It had to be effects pedals.
True. I never heard bass pedals in Yes music.
"That was an unaccompanied bass pedal solo from Christopher Squire".
I think I'm getting muddled up somewhere.
From interview with Chris:
Q: Are you still using the same Taurus bass pedals? Were they ever modified? Does your wife complain about rattling the windows when you play them at home? A: [laughs] I don’t play them at home, so no problems there. The original bass pedals that I started off with were actually made by a company called Dewtron, which was an Italian company, and I believe they were made in the sixties. And then later on, Moog came out with the Taurus pedals and I also acquired a set of those, and I used to combine the sounds from both pedals through a special switching box I had made. However, in time, once I settled on a sound I really liked, which was a combination of both units, I ended up sampling the desired sound, and to this day, I trigger the sampled sound when YES play live shows.
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Posted: August 20 2013 at 16:11
There are so many varied opinions on this album on this forum. All I can say is if you lived the music back then and saw the early Yes tours like I did it was magical.
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Posted: August 20 2013 at 16:25
I will say that, while CTTE has three great pieces, I can't say they do anything more for me together than they do alone. In contrast, the underrated Tales is a much more cohesive, rewarding album as a whole IMO.
What's so special about Close to the Edge? Let's see:
1 - Jon Anderson's crazy lyrical imagery creates a natural sense of fantasy and wonderment 2 - Steve Howe plays guitar leads like no one before him had. sounds like mice scampering up the fretboard 3 - The album contained three epic pieces and none of them were boring 4 - The four parts of the title suite have funny names if you imagine them as pieces about constipation (Total Mass Retain! The Solid Time of Change! I Get Up, I Get Down!)
I laughed so hard when I read this earlier on my phone, I think a little wee came out. Thanks Stiiv!
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Posted: August 20 2013 at 17:27
Gerinski wrote:
This seems to be the device used by Squire and also Mike Rutherford until Moog released the Taurus
DEWTRON MISTER BASSMAN
Thanks for posting the photo, after reading this thread I was very curious to see these. Check out this video of them "in action." Compared to the Moog Taurus pedals, these are like an ugly kids toy...it's a wonder Rutherford and Squire could do anything useful with them...
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Posted: August 21 2013 at 23:20
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Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ That deserves an addition in your "An Illustrated Guide to Prog Rock Instruments" thread.
Yes I think it does! The Taurus was not such an innovative concept as I had thought.
Oh, but it was! What made the Taurus so innovative was not only the incredible sounding Moog filters, but the programmable patch. You'd open that little window on the front and could set all kinds of programmable parameters and do things that sounded more like a MiniMoog than bass pedals. Moog's later attempts at reissuing this (The Taurus 2 and 3) never captured the same magic. Besides, the Dewtron's sound was pretty bland compared with the Taurus that would rattle the windows. There was nothing like Genesis on the Wind and Wuthering tour, when Rutherford hit the Taurus on Firth of Fifth you could feel the building shake
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Posted: August 21 2013 at 23:54
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Gerinski wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ That deserves an addition in your "An Illustrated Guide to Prog Rock Instruments" thread.
Yes I think it does! The Taurus was not such an innovative concept as I had thought.
Oh, but it was! What made the Taurus so innovative was not only the incredible sounding Moog filters, but the programmable patch. You'd open that little window on the front and could set all kinds of programmable parameters and do things that sounded more like a MiniMoog than bass pedals. Moog's later attempts at reissuing this (The Taurus 2 and 3) never captured the same magic. Besides, the Dewtron's sound was pretty bland compared with the Taurus that would rattle the windows. There was nothing like Genesis on the Wind and Wuthering tour, when Rutherford hit the Taurus on Firth of Fifth you could feel the building shake
...to say nothing of Genesis's "Fly On A Windshield" from The Lamb!
Sadly, I missed that tour but saw the tribute band "The Musical Box" perform this at an old theater in Chicago...when the Moog Taurus was engaged, a snowstorm of paint flakes and dust from the ceiling filled the air! It was great!
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Posted: August 26 2013 at 08:27
I think it's overrated,a 3-stars albumbut of course it's just my opinion. It would have been a great 20-25 minutes epic but extending it to fit a LP has partially ruined it. It's better than TAAB 2 (I've seen JT live few months ago playing the two albums) but I think it contains too many fillers. I prefer the shortened version on Bursting Out.
My fav JT album is Aqualung
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Posted: August 26 2013 at 09:44
octopus-4 wrote:
I think it's overrated,a 3-stars albumbut of course it's just my opinion. It would have been a great 20-25 minutes epic but extending it to fit a LP has partially ruined it. It's better than TAAB 2 (I've seen JT live few months ago playing the two albums) but I think it contains too many fillers. I prefer the shortened version on Bursting Out.
My fav JT album is Aqualung
Agree to an extent with your views, though I would rate it four stars. What makes it special is the riff. That is simply irresistible. But it's simply not enough for a 40-plus minute track. TAAB ultimately lacks musical development to match its ambition.
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Posted: August 26 2013 at 09:58
rogerthat wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
I think it's overrated,a 3-stars albumbut of course it's just my opinion. It would have been a great 20-25 minutes epic but extending it to fit a LP has partially ruined it. It's better than TAAB 2 (I've seen JT live few months ago playing the two albums) but I think it contains too many fillers. I prefer the shortened version on Bursting Out.
My fav JT album is Aqualung
Agree to an extent with your views, though I would rate it four stars. What makes it special is the riff. That is simply irresistible. But it's simply not enough for a 40-plus minute track. TAAB ultimately lacks musical development to match its ambition.
Yes, it could be a 4-stars album. The non-filler parts are excellent.
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