Overrated Prog Songs

The.Crimson.King wrote: Memory Cube wrote: I see what you mean, but this song just really isn't my cup of grey herbal tea. No, I haven't heard the live version on "Tinseltown Rebellion". If you're so inclined, give the Tinseltown Rebellion version a try...I just listened to them back to back and it's night and day.  The studio version is really rough around the edges and is horribly engineered.  The live version is much more polished, with better musicianship and vocals...and besides, it segues into the brilliant "Peaches III" ("Let's hear it for another great Italian, Alvin Lee")... It's the age old Zappa fanatics argument, original-Mothers vs FZ-and-his-hired-hands

What the hey, maybe I will give the Tinseltown Rebellion version a try. By the way, by Alvin Lee, do you mean the guitarist from "Ten Years After"?

Mythical Mike wrote: Apparently, we can't...

Apparently, you like to spout your opinions, and then wish to end the conversation without giving others the same opportunity.

Actually, given the musical tastes of most listeners, and what goes for huge pop hits, it is remarkable that Pink Floyd is one of the biggest selling bands in history. It isn't like Floyd's music was incredibly accessible or simplistic, or their lyrics were uplifting, cute or melodic love songs (in fact, I can't think of one love song from Meddle until The Final Cut, and it's not like they had a plethora of #1 singles -- it was their albums that were their selling point). Waters' lyrics got increasingly bitter as time went on, and an album like Animals is bristling with animosity. Perhaps it has more to do with when a band hits its stride, as Floyd did in the 70s, when the hippie dream made way for antagonism and apathy, and Floyd changed from 60s trippy psychedelia to more dark, psychological material . Which is why many rock fans took to Sabbath's dark music at that time, and then punk nihilism attacked corporate rock later in the 70s.

Bah, I'm just rabbiting on because I've had too much coffee today. Starbucks. High caffeine content.

I didn't mean Eloy were underrated I meant they were less recognized than the other bands.

I don't have anything against Pink Floyd for being commercial.

I was just writing my post for what songs do I think are overrated, I wasn't expecting these replies.

I hope we can stop talking about Pink Floyd.

Edited by Mythical Mike - July 21 2013 at 14:57

Mythical Mike wrote: Dean wrote: It's not a matter of being defensive, it's this notion that "I don't like it but lots of people do, ergo it's overrated" ... that's just juvenile. There are dozens of highly rated albums I don't like (Close to the Edge for one), but they are not overrated if other people like them.   Those Eloy albums are not underrated, they are rated pretty much as they should be, they are under-appreciated perhaps, and overlooked maybe, but they are not great albums nor are they bad albums. I get what you are saying. When I say that Pink Floyd are overrated I am not referring to the amount of people that like their music. I am mainly referring to the fact that Pink Floyd are played on are the radio far more then Camel, Yes, and King Crimson. As well as Pink Floyd has CDs selling everywhere, whether there music shops or not. Why isn't Yes and King Crimson played on the radio more, and why can't I find CDs by bands like Camel and Eloy at my local store. Pink Floyd are at the store. So apparently, I have to buy the music I like online. That is all I'm saying. Is why aren't other bands as recognized by the media like Pink Floyd

Edited by Dean - July 21 2013 at 13:49

Mythical Mike wrote: Okay, this is a little insane that everyone gets so defensive. Actually, I find this kind a funny I have my opinion and you have yours. The reason I don't like Pink Floyd very much is because their music makes me feel uninspired and bored. I don't hear anything outstanding. I tried to really give them a chance, I've listened to the full albums of Piper, Saucerful, Atom Heart, Meddle, Wish You Were Here, and Animals. I still can't see why their so loved. Eloy are really talented though, they really are the definition of Space Rock. Their albums Dawn, Ocean, and Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes are very underrated.

Edited by dr wu23 - July 21 2013 at 13:40

Memory Cube wrote: I see what you mean, but this song just really isn't my cup of grey herbal tea. No, I haven't heard the live version on "Tinseltown Rebellion".

Edited by The.Crimson.King - July 21 2013 at 12:31

Snow Dog wrote: Dean wrote: Mythical Mike wrote: Dean wrote: Mythical Mike wrote: Everything by Pink Floyd is overrated. Hillarious.   Pah! Saying things are overrated is overrated. Just because you don't like something it does not mean it is overrated, it just means you have very poor taste in music. I actually don't really like anything by Pink Floyd. When speaking of 70's progressive rock my favorite is Camel by far. Other greats are Genesis, Yes, Eloy, Gentle Giant, and King Crimson. Considering Pink Floyd are more well known than these excellent groups is why I consider them to be highly overrated. So everything you don't like is overrated? Every well known band is overrated? Elitist snobbery from Prog fans is overrated.  There's plenty of that about. Interesting he cites Floyd as overrated but considers Eloy as one of the "greats".

Okay, this is a little insane that everyone gets so defensive.

Actually, I find this kind a funny

I have my opinion and you have yours.

The reason I don't like Pink Floyd very much is because their music makes me feel uninspired and bored. I don't hear anything outstanding.

I tried to really give them a chance, I've listened to the full albums of Piper, Saucerful, Atom Heart, Meddle, Wish You Were Here, and Animals.

I still can't see why their so loved.

Eloy are really talented though, they really are the definition of Space Rock.

Their albums Dawn, Ocean, and Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes are very underrated.    

Edited by Mythical Mike - July 21 2013 at 12:20

I don't believe in "overrated"

Mythical Mike wrote: Dean wrote: Mythical Mike wrote: Everything by Pink Floyd is overrated. Hillarious.   Pah! Saying things are overrated is overrated. Just because you don't like something it does not mean it is overrated, it just means you have very poor taste in music. I actually don't really like anything by Pink Floyd. When speaking of 70's progressive rock my favorite is Camel by far. Other greats are Genesis, Yes, Eloy, Gentle Giant, and King Crimson. Considering Pink Floyd are more well known than these excellent groups is why I consider them to be highly overrated.

So everything you don't like is overrated? Every well known band is overrated? Elitist snobbery from Prog fans is overrated.