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Yes, but who is Colin James?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2013 at 04:35
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Really? The intentional humour in there is pretty clear to see, though not that funny. Obviously written by a Brit of a certain age.
 
I don't get that humour but I'm not British. I think that taking some random pieces of sentences from other reviews, reading the band lineup and the track titles from the album page could be enough to give the input to a program.
Of course a program wouldn't say "Ian" instead of "Jon", but may rename "Rick" into "Richard".
And Geoffery Howe?
 
That's mysterious effectively, There has been a Geoff in a Yes album, if the program reads a database Geoff may come from Drama.
However I'm joking at least as the reviewer, but the idea of a program writing reviews is intriguing
Geoffrey Howe was Chancellor of the Exchequer (and various other Govt posts) during the reign of Margret Thatcher, he was often a figure of ridicule on the satirical TV programme Spitting Image - the reviewer is punning with the names, hence Chrisp Squire, Ian Anderson and Steve Hackett.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Really? The intentional humour in there is pretty clear to see, though not that funny. Obviously written by a Brit of a certain age.
 
I don't get that humour but I'm not British. I think that taking some random pieces of sentences from other reviews, reading the band lineup and the track titles from the album page could be enough to give the input to a program.
Of course a program wouldn't say "Ian" instead of "Jon", but may rename "Rick" into "Richard".
And Geoffery Howe?
 
That's mysterious effectively, There has been a Geoff in a Yes album, if the program reads a database Geoff may come from Drama.
However I'm joking at least as the reviewer, but the idea of a program writing reviews is intriguing
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Really? The intentional humour in there is pretty clear to see, though not that funny. Obviously written by a Brit of a certain age.
 
I don't get that humour but I'm not British. I think that taking some random pieces of sentences from other reviews, reading the band lineup and the track titles from the album page could be enough to give the input to a program.
Of course a program wouldn't say "Ian" instead of "Jon", but may rename "Rick" into "Richard".
And Geoffery Howe?
 
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Really? The intentional humour in there is pretty clear to see, though not that funny. Obviously written by a Brit of a certain age.
 
I don't get that humour but I'm not British. I think that taking some random pieces of sentences from other reviews, reading the band lineup and the track titles from the album page could be enough to give the input to a program.
Of course a program wouldn't say "Ian" instead of "Jon", but may rename "Rick" into "Richard".
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gerinski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2013 at 03:48
I love Faulty Towers, Allo Allo, George and Mildred, Keeping Up Appearances, Monthy Pyton and Little Britain, but I guess that this specific sort of British humour is beyond my abilities.
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Really? The intentional humour in there is pretty clear to see, though not that funny. Obviously written by a Brit of a certain age.
 
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Looks like an "automatic reviewer". My compliments to the developer.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2013 at 02:19
^ It's like one of those spam threads we get for carpeting 
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I don't know if ignorance, inaccuracy and inconsistency are good enough reasons for reporting a review but this one of Going For The One gets a prize, unless its meant to be a joke:



"The title track is very rocky and mellow (?) with some fine slide playing from Geoffrey Howe"

"Turn of The Century has some lovely aggressive  (?) vocals by Ian Anderson"

"Wondrous Stories is very Nicola-ish in its simplicity, moving backing vocals from Crisp Squire and Steve Hackett"

"Awaken, probably the best song that the band has ever written, although it is not as good as "Gates Of Delirium" "Close To The Edge"and all of "The Yes Album"  Confused LOL

"The ony thing i don't like about this song is the church organ because it reminds me of funerals and Chrissy Parslow in particular. Aside from that i love the rest of it - A particular favourite section of mine is where Richard Wakeman gets all dramatic on the church organ Cry LOL Cry LOL






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Maybe some trolling or just rating abuse on the new Phideaux album still in post production

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Originally posted by Tubes Tubes wrote:

Artist's sexual preferences as any other personal thing are relevant all the time because that is a big component of anyone's personality and will be reflected in their music, of course. I'm pretty sure it was intended as joke, anyway, but either way, don't be hating on homophobes. 
Not always and even when they are it's not always relevant. Imagine if Edgar Froese was gay (he may be or not, I surely don't care), how can this be reflected in Phaedra, Rubycon or Alpha Centauri? After your campaign against Gentle Giant I think you are having fun by provoking. It may be a funny joke but it has to be done with a bit of intelligence that I think you are not showing. 
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...and today's nomination for most ignorant comment of the month is:
Originally posted by Tubes Tubes wrote:

Artist's sexual preferences as any other personal thing are relevant all the time because that is a big component of anyone's personality and will be reflected in their music, of course. I'm pretty sure it was intended as joke, anyway, but either way, don't be hating on homophobes. 
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Artist's sexual preferences as any other personal thing are relevant all the time because that is a big component of anyone's personality and will be reflected in their music, of course. I'm pretty sure it was intended as joke, anyway, but either way, don't be hating on homophobes. 
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Artist's sexual preferences as any other personal thing are relevant only when they are reflected in their artistic production. I would fire that review.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2013 at 04:20
^ it can't be slander if its true, but yes, unsubstantiated speculation about the sexual orientation of the artist re the merit of any music is clearly w.a.n.k.y.n.e.s.s aforethought. It's a bizarre review though, as he gives 'Raven' 5 stars and praises Wilson (sincerely) to the heavens. he also fails to trash Storm Corrosion (3 stars) Might just be a really lame attempt at humour or trying to court controversy?
From his Storm Corrosion review:

We all saw this project coming. We all know that Steven Wilson and Mikael Akerfeldt are basically a gay couple...musically of course.


I agree the 'gay lover' part should be edited or delete.

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http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=939194

Completely inappropriate and useless comment about the cooperation between Wilson and Ackerfeld: "Then came Storm Corrosion, a project he made with his possible homosexual lover Mikael Adkerfeldt."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Earendil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2013 at 17:07
Ok everyone. I understand completely, and I mean no disrespect to the reviewer.
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Earendil Earendil wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

More fuel to the anti-collab-weighting lobby.
 
 

I'm not opposed to the current system.  I think it makes sense and works well overall. 

In this specific situation, the album's rating is significantly lower than if collab reviews were weighted the same as non-collab, and it's unlikely that the album will ever reach the point of "balancing out".  It's unfortunate, but not cause for any type of change based on that alone.  However, I don't feel that the review justifies its rating.

But hey...It's his honest opinion.

Robert and I have different musical tastes.but he's always honest, I remember when I rated HIS album lower than the resto of the Collaborators, he sent me a kind message saying he respected my opinion even if he didn't shared it.

If he says he doesn't like it, i believe he's giving his 100% honest opinion and he's entitled to it.

Iván

Nice to agree with Ivan for a change.

This is clearly an honest, well written opinion. Also, think about it. If you were reading reviews for this artist, you would see a range of opinions. Looking closely at Robert's tastes after exploring more closely, you would realise this was not his cup of tea. You would also find that others, who might like this type of music, gave it a good rating. You would, therefore, make an opinion on whether to buy based upon this.

Robert's review is a good and honest one. He does not like it. He thinks it is a "noise". Knowing his tastes as I do, and agreeing with them, I would not get this album. Others would disagree, and would buy based upon others opinion.

It is the way the site works, and, by and large, this part of it works well.

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Originally posted by Earendil Earendil wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

More fuel to the anti-collab-weighting lobby.
 
 

I'm not opposed to the current system.  I think it makes sense and works well overall. 

In this specific situation, the album's rating is significantly lower than if collab reviews were weighted the same as non-collab, and it's unlikely that the album will ever reach the point of "balancing out".  It's unfortunate, but not cause for any type of change based on that alone.  However, I don't feel that the review justifies its rating.

But hey...It's his honest opinion.

Robert and I have different musical tastes.but he's always honest, I remember when I rated HIS album lower than the resto of the Collaborators, he sent me a kind message saying he respected my opinion even if he didn't shared it.

If he says he doesn't like it, i believe he's giving his 100% honest opinion and he's entitled to it.

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