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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2013 at 13:18
From being a member of the prog electronic team here on PA, I can safely say that we've had our discussions back and forth, but just remember this: PE is the sole category on PA that includes rockless music. That has to do with heritage and where it all started. It's justification for even being on the site, is in part that you can't distinguish it from the Krautrock scene - it was the same. Largely boiled down to the Berlin School and the avantguarde. By that definition, and obviously also in order to help focus the site on the rock part of the equation, what then gets in on PA are the acts who have continued in that tradition. 
For better or worse that has indeed kept the site clear of what many probably would have felt was an opening to all sorts of music - now it didn't even have to about rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2013 at 13:32
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

From being a member of the prog electronic team here on PA, I can safely say that we've had our discussions back and forth, but just remember this: PE is the sole category on PA that includes rockless music. That has to do with heritage and where it all started. It's justification for even being on the site, is in part that you can't distinguish it from the Krautrock scene - it was the same. Largely boiled down to the Berlin School and the avantguarde. By that definition, and obviously also in order to help focus the site on the rock part of the equation, what then gets in on PA are the acts who have continued in that tradition. 
For better or worse that has indeed kept the site clear of what many probably would have felt was an opening to all sorts of music - now it didn't even have to about rock.

All that makes sense, when you put it that way LOLClap



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2013 at 13:41
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

From being a member of the prog electronic team here on PA, I can safely say that we've had our discussions back and forth, but just remember this: PE is the sole category on PA that includes rockless music. That has to do with heritage and where it all started. It's justification for even being on the site, is in part that you can't distinguish it from the Krautrock scene - it was the same. Largely boiled down to the Berlin School and the avantguarde. By that definition, and obviously also in order to help focus the site on the rock part of the equation, what then gets in on PA are the acts who have continued in that tradition. 
For better or worse that has indeed kept the site clear of what many probably would have felt was an opening to all sorts of music - now it didn't even have to about rock.

All that makes sense, when you put it that way LOLClap


Hell, I'll be the first to say that what I personally believe to be the current "most progressive" music out there(what an absolute lame phraseLOL), will probably never get in on PA, and that's probably fine I guess. But yes, electronic music in general has moved at a furious speed - branched out in all kinds of facets, in part due to all of the new gimmicks and instruments being used. 
Also original folk music - I'm talking Romanian with harmonicas and the whole shabang - that kind of music is experiencing a haul-over in various back yards of European capitals. Now it's moved into punk territory and ska silhouettes, which makes for a seriously cool party, I might addBig smile Again highly progressive if you ask me, but I couldn't see it on here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2013 at 13:44
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

 Hell, I'll be the first to say that what I personally believe to be the current "most progressive" music out there(what an absolute lame phraseLOL), will probably never get in on PA, and that's probably fine I guess. 

Yes, I know you're a fan of electronica; I didn't know you're on the PA team, now that I know you are, I can rest assured that there's attempts to expand electronica. Clap

I don't know if this works, but I had a "eureka" moment. Since we have a post-rock category, how about a post-electronic prog category? This would only allow for those electronic acts that seem to be carrying on in the tradition of the electronic progsters: Future Sound of London, Aphex Twin and some of the other Warp acts, Boards of Canada... Oh but determining which electronic act is in that tradition, and which isn't, could be pretty subjective, I guess... It could be an imperfect, temporary solution, as the language becomes more finely grafted...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2013 at 13:44
Sorry I missed your edit, but yes you may be on to something there! Let it be no secret, that all of those acts you just mentioned indeed are ones I personally would like to see on here - plus Caribou and Zoviet FranceBig smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2013 at 15:58
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:


The Flaming Lips have a new album coming out, called The Terror. Some webzines have already reviewed it, and so far it's garnering high praise. I hope it's as good as they say; I can't wait to hear it.



Forget the over-enthusiastic reviews I posted. I'm listening now to the new Flaming Lips' album The Terror, and sadly I think it's pretty weak. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2013 at 19:27
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

They probably have been mentioned before but it boggles my mind that The Flaming Lips aren't in the archives....they are definitely prog and psych and have covered both Floyd and Crimson live on tours.


Primus covers Rush all the time- that doesn't make them prog

What makes them worthy of this site is "Embryonic," and some of the albums that went before. They're as Crossover Prog as Radiohead are.

If Mercury Rev is in PA, then how can one justify leaving the Flaming Lips out? (Mercury Rev grew out of the Lips; they share the same producer; the Flaming Lips are far more proggy, psychedelic, spacy, and experimental.) If Can had made "Embryonic," we'd be calling it their greatest album yet. If Pink Floyd had made "Pompeii Am Götterdämmerung," we'd be calling it one of their greatest tracks.

By the way, the Flaming Lips's tribute albums to Dark Side of the Moon and King Crimson's ITCOTCK *are* in PA - I put them there. I'm still waiting for the Flaming Lips themselves to be admitted. That they belong, I don't have the slightest doubt.

 
I couldn't agree more......there are many bands in here who barely qualify imho as prog rock and many like the Lips who definitely qualify. I don't know who makes the decisions on the categories but imho they are certainly 'wrong'  in some cases and btw  I'm 62 years old and have heard it all over the years and been into prog since 1968-9 so I'm not some youngster with no experience. I'm willing to bet I have heard as much if not more prog than some who are on the panels  here.
That's just my 2 cents but at times the classifications and bands listed here seem 'off' imho.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2013 at 03:01
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:


Oh no, not the Police. We already have to contend with Phil Collins. Now *Sting*? eeeeeeeek. Cry LOL

to be fair Sting's solo music is much better than CollinsTongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2013 at 08:56
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:


Oh no, not the Police. We already have to contend with Phil Collins. Now *Sting*? eeeeeeeek. Cry LOL

to be fair Sting's solo music is much better than CollinsTongue

Yes, that's very true Smile I was only kidding about Sting :-)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2013 at 07:42
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Recently got The Police - Ghost In The Machine. I think there might be a case for them based on that and Synchronicity. Perhaps 'Prog related' as Copeland was married to Sonja Kristina at one timeSmile
 
don't forget Andy Summers played in the orchestral version of Tubular Bells, and did albums with Robert Fripp, and was in Soft Machine Wink

I don't know how you came by that info. The guitar on OTB is Mike Oldfield.
 
I got it from reading about it online. 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2013 at 02:31
I'm listening the new Soilwork album, The Living Infinite lately... I've always loved the band and its progress till now. My favourite albums was Natural Born Chaos (with Devin Townsend contribution), Stabbing The Drama, Figure Number Five, The Panic Broadcast, and it seems the latest album will be a favourite of mine too. The band continues to suprise me with each album, the previous one indicated some further experimenting with song structures, atmospherics, vocal harmonies, proggy riffs, time sigs, different verse/chorus/bridge combinations, interesting intros/outros, acoustic parts, instrumentals, more technical approach, bluesy sections, nice keys.. With this new double concept album (nearly one and a half hour playing time) it's clear they progressed more.

First disk is including generally straight-forward 3-4 min. songs, but there are some experimental songs also, such as the first part of mini epic Living Infinite, atmospheric Vesta (probably some influence from Between The Buried and Me) , The Windswept Mercy (almost feels like Devin Townsend from Ocean Machine era.) and Whispers and Lights as instance.Their influence from Devin Townsend and bands like Opeth is becaming obvious in songs like these I think. Second disk include more mellow pieces and some longer and more experimental compositions such as Long Live The Misanthrope, beautiful atmospheric Antidotes In Passing (with post-rockish intro and full clean singing of Bjorn), second part of the Living Infinite, Parasite Blues and Owls Predict, Oracles Stand Guard, which reminds me a little bit of Katatonia. Also bands like Dark Tranquility, Scar Symmetry comes to mind throughout the album.

The album quickly grew on me, I think this may be the best thing they have produced so far. What you guys think, let me know...





Edited by CrimsonKing777 - April 02 2013 at 10:14
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