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smartpatrol ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 15 2012 Location: My Bedroom Status: Offline Points: 14169 |
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I think it's a noble cause, but I don't practice it nor do I plan on doing so. I think eating meat is a natural thing for humans to do. However I do think the way we make meat these days is terrible. We use way too much water, land, and food on it, plus there's growth hormones. I also think animals should be raised with care and killed as painlessly as possible.
But again, I think it's a noble cause and anyone who practices it earns my respect. So what do you think about it? |
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ProgMetaller2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 08 2012 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 3150 |
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I don't practice Vegetarianism but I don't disapprove of it either
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Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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More yummy meat for me.
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*frinspar* ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2008 Location: Arizona Status: Offline Points: 463 |
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I like the way vegetarians taste.
![]() I have no real considerations one way or the other. Certainly no condemnations. What people choose, as long as they don't interfere with me is a-okay. But I do appreciate anyone with the conviction to stick to the positive choices they make, and I view making a dietary, and often, philosophical choice as positive. Vegans have a tougher row to hoe when it comes to easy sustenance choices, and I could never put myself through that. Too lazy. Though I do tend to run across the rare militant vegan who wants to interfere with my life and I want to trip them into a gutter for the smug moral superiority lectures about my choices. Vegetarians tend to be more docile and non-confrontational, live and let live. |
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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I think both vegetarianism and veganism are admirable choices and probably better overall physically and morally for a person. That said, I may never ever do them. At heart, I like to be indulgent and go where my palate takes me, whether it be fatty foods, animals, alcohol, sweets and whatevers. I simply don't care enough to stop eating meat. Maybe I'm a terrible person, then again, I don't care. Delicious things await.
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Dayvenkirq ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
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I try not to eat meat because of, well, the horrendous things I saw at the end of the film Fast Food Nation. I don't know anything about the intelligence and feelings of animals on the part of life, family, and such, ... and I'm just going to assume the worst. And if I do have to eat meat in front of my mother, I'll just ... "take one for the team", so to speak.
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65541 |
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I'm into high-protein so if you're getting that from veg then that's great-- actually I've noticed the vegan meals they offer in place of a 'normal meal' (like on an airplane) are often delicious and far better than the meat & starch thing they give everyone else.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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It's a sad fact that animals now are merely part of a huge industrial process with all the bad (but perfectly legal) practices pertaining thereto. It doesn't matter how many people go for 'organic' meat or 'free range' product, the fact 99.999% of the population doesn't will not change.
Once, this bothered me mightily, especially after the UK's Channel 4 showed the animals film in its entirety, uncut and I was strict vegetarian for 10 years (and this in a time when the standard vegetarian option in a restaurant was a horribly foreshortened cheese & tomato quiche, quorn was unheard of & ready meals for veggies were inedible pap), but eventually, I weakened, the temptation of various meats (yes, that was primarily bacon) drew me back in & now I'll eat anything - call me weak willed, whatever, I'm no longer vegetarian - I do however have major respect for those who manage to maintain such a diet. |
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zeqexes ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 19 2012 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1238 |
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This is pretty much my view on it. I don't condemn it; if it works for you, then fair enough
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Yes, me too. Vegetarianism and veganism are life-style choices and open to all who have the luxury of choosing, properly balanced (and if necessarily supplemented with vitamin supplements) it can be as healthy as a normal diet, though not as natural.
Animal husbandry is improving, not as fast as it should but it is improving, and for our population the need to farm animals cannot be avoided. Sure some animals are not treated well by some humans, some humans are not treated well by some humans either, as a species we're not that nice. As a lifestyle choice I will buy free-range and farm-assured. I'm not so enthusiastic about organic - that's a marketing ploy whose administration pushes the prices up and doesn't reflect the true cost of implementing it, regardless of the propaganda - organic veg does not taste like home-grown. What is more important to me when buying veg is food-miles, I don't need fresh strawberries in January, this is why we invented jam.
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24591 |
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I am not a vegetarian myself, but if anyone wants to be for whatever reason, I don't disapprove of it. Speaking for myself, I like to have some meat on my dish, but not in too large quantities. And I find nothing wronh with a vegetarian meal now and then. Veganism would be one bridge too far for me. And I agree with what Dean says about organic food.
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*frinspar* ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2008 Location: Arizona Status: Offline Points: 463 |
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I'd also like to add that I know full well how the meat gets to my plate.
I'm just not going to apologize for it. As Popeye is fond of saying, I yam what I yam. ![]() |
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mmmm.. Popeyes
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Kirillov ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2011 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 700 |
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I agree that vegetarianism is a noble cause, but anyone wishing to give up eating meat needs to take care. I gave up meat for a time, but ate a lot more fish. This gave me gout from which I still suffer :(
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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I don't see it as a noble cause one bit. But I think in general we eat too much meat and a few meat free days a week is a good thing to aim for.
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infocat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 10 2011 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 4671 |
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Like any religion, it has its good points and its bad ones.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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I do not believe that vegetarianism is a noble cause. I believe it is a cop-out - the art of doing nothing while thinking you're doing good.
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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If anything only a Vegan can be considerd noble in these terms. Any vegetarian that thinks he is doing it for anything other than personal taste should stop eating dairy products too.
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