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Heavy Prog is their country, and Rush is the president of this country. If they move away from this country, heavy prog would lose the most important members of their governement. So NO WAY !!!
Listen to Gentle Giant's music and tell me Rush is not Eclectic Prog.
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Points: 6253 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2013 at 17:50
Originally posted by geneyesontle geneyesontle wrote:

Heavy Prog is their country, and Rush is the president of this country. If they move away from this country, heavy prog would lose the most important members of their governement. So NO WAY !!!
Listen to Gentle Giant's music and tell me Rush is not Eclectic Prog.
geneyesontle, I am open to anything, therefore please suggest a track that you consider eclectic by RUSH? Also I much prefer Camel compared to Gentle Giant but this is my own personal taste. ApproveHug
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I consider their music to be country, but the country happens to be Canada.
Who'da thunk I'd ever like country music? LOL
 
F**kin Republican music LOL
 
I hate country
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all this recent generalized hate for country music is making me wonder if Johnny Cash isn't as well known as I thought he was... I mean, i think contemporary country is as worthless as most of you do, but f**kin' Cash, man... I can never make any generalizations about country anymore, because f**kin' Cash, man.
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by geneyesontle geneyesontle wrote:

Heavy Prog is their country, and Rush is the president of this country. If they move away from this country, heavy prog would lose the most important members of their governement. So NO WAY !!!
Listen to Gentle Giant's music and tell me Rush is not Eclectic Prog.
geneyesontle, I am open to anything, therefore please suggest a track that you consider eclectic by RUSH? Also I much prefer Camel compared to Gentle Giant but this is my own personal taste. ApproveHug
 
That's okay Kati. I think Gentle Giant is the best band in the world. We all have different musical tastes.
But Camel is Symphonic.
Well, I think the most Eclectic track by them is this one:
 
 
But it isn't as Eclectic as this:
 
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Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

all this recent generalized hate for country music is making me wonder if Johnny Cash isn't as well known as I thought he was... I mean, i think contemporary country is as worthless as most of you do, but f**kin' Cash, man... I can never make any generalizations about country anymore, because f**kin' Cash, man.
 
Johnny Cash was good, I have to agree. But all the others are copyheads.
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Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

all this recent generalized hate for country music is making me wonder if Johnny Cash isn't as well known as I thought he was... I mean, i think contemporary country is as worthless as most of you do, but f**kin' Cash, man... I can never make any generalizations about country anymore, because f**kin' Cash, man.
 
Oi!!! I like Townes Van Zandt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjJePtPVquM and Pete Townshend too! However of all the odd ones, none beat TOM WAITS (I wish every drunk man could sound like him singing) Tom Waits - Hold On http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P5jV4lHHR0&list=FLW3NlyKPJqFL8OnvvATV4YQ&index=175 Approve

 
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Points: 12859 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2013 at 18:24
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Oh no, ok I don't know much about Rush therefore please give me an example of an eclectic track of theirs? I honestly have to read this twice everytime because eclectic seems so far fetch in terms of RUSH.
A band doesn't have to play a song with more than one style to be considered eclectic. Changing style from one track, or album, to the next counts too!
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Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Oh no, ok I don't know much about Rush therefore please give me an example of an eclectic track of theirs? I honestly have to read this twice everytime because eclectic seems so far fetch in terms of RUSH.
A band doesn't have to play a song with more than one style to be considered eclectic. Changing style from one track, or album, to the next counts too!
 
Oh now there is a fine line The Bearde Bard, eclectic for me consists of many changes within one track, marmite one could call it yet no matter how complex it's brilliant, keeps us hanging into every note, very exciting, at times wondering yet very happy to listen. However you mention an album with different tracks as eclectic, please give me an example? Smile
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Stern Smile
 
 
There is a little too much free use of the f-word in this thread. The autocensor is not there so you can swear freely, it's there to catch the very rare occasions when you accidentally forget to not swear.
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F.F.S. Rush has been earlier compared to KC in terms of a poll, now this? Disapprove Seriously? Am I going crazy here? Ok crazy a tad I am but this?
 
P.S. I said F.F.S. coz Dean said I could Big smile he loves French yay!!!


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think of Rush as a simple rock band who liked to expand a bit, there's not much more to it
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Stern Smile
 
 
There is a little too much free use of the f-word in this thread. The autocensor is not there so you can swear freely, it's there to catch the very rare occasions when you accidentally forget to not swear.


ah sorry, i tend to forget that i'm not supposed to 'curse' at all on this site, since it's the internet and all.. i'll try to keep myself more in check
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Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Stern Smile
 
 
There is a little too much free use of the f-word in this thread. The autocensor is not there so you can swear freely, it's there to catch the very rare occasions when you accidentally forget to not swear.


ah sorry, i tend to forget that i'm not supposed to 'curse' at all on this site, since it's the internet and all.. i'll try to keep myself more in check
Sumdeus, you cheeky Teddy Bear, I had no idea you did swear Confused but Dean allowed us to swear freely Smile
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Rush is one of those bands who is not afraid of experimenting even if it means losing fans in the process. Their music has always practically been hard to categorize, they are Hard Rock and Metal and Progressive Rock all in one. Yet they also incorporate elements of Reggae, New Wave, Synth Rock and even Alternative Rock and Pop Rock into their sound. My question to you is. Would you consider them Eclectic??? Because the term Heavy Prog makes it seem as if they are always heavy and that's not always the case.
 
Eclectic? Ok, now I too am confused here. I never thought of Rush as eclectic. Someone please help and clarify this for me because this is beyond my understanding, eclectic? No, I read it correctly it seems, really? Confused 
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Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Rush is one of those bands who is not afraid of experimenting even if it means losing fans in the process. Their music has always practically been hard to categorize, they are Hard Rock and Metal and Progressive Rock all in one. Yet they also incorporate elements of Reggae, New Wave, Synth Rock and even Alternative Rock and Pop Rock into their sound. My question to you is. Would you consider them Eclectic??? Because the term Heavy Prog makes it seem as if they are always heavy and that's not always the case.
 
Eclectic? Ok, now I too am confused here. I never thought of Rush as eclectic. Someone please help and clarify this for me because this is beyond my understanding, eclectic? No, I read it correctly it seems, really? Confused 





=Ambient Hurricanes, hello Big smile, the links above are nice but certainly not Eclectic, they remind me of 80's disco era, Club54 Embarrassed
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Points: 65583 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2013 at 21:28
^ that may've been AH's point, but I agree with you; the fact that Rush occasionally experimented with different styles doesn't make the music itself eclectic.    Plus, that cut from Presto doesn't sound much different from what they were doing on Power Windows four years earlier.
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Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Agreed with many of the above comments; yes, Rush's music could be classified as "eclectic," but if you put them in eclectic prog I feel like you could make an argument to put almost any band in eclectic.  Although not all of their music is hard rock, that's the basis of their sound and I think they fit very well in Heavy Prog.  I could see making a case to put them in crossover, but that seems like it would be counterproductive as the already fit perfectly well in their subgenre.

As to the "metal or not" debate, you have to remember that Zep and Deep Purple were considered metal in the 70s.  Rush was heavier than both of them.  While I wouldn't consider anything after Hemispheres to be metal, something like 2112 definitely could be described as progressive metal in my opinion, even though it doesn't fit into "progressive metal" as the genre is defined here.  Rush decreased the metal elements in their sound drastically in the albums following 2112, though, so I don't think you can say that Rush is a progressive metal band even by 70s standards.
 
Pretty much this for me......VT had some return of that Rush metal of 2112. They are a very hard driving progressive band.
I think Heavy Prog fits fine for them....I mean where else would you put them?


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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Rush is one of those bands who is not afraid of experimenting even if it means losing fans in the process. Their music has always practically been hard to categorize, they are Hard Rock and Metal and Progressive Rock all in one. Yet they also incorporate elements of Reggae, New Wave, Synth Rock and even Alternative Rock and Pop Rock into their sound. My question to you is. Would you consider them Eclectic??? Because the term Heavy Prog makes it seem as if they are always heavy and that's not always the case.
 
Eclectic? Ok, now I too am confused here. I never thought of Rush as eclectic. Someone please help and clarify this for me because this is beyond my understanding, eclectic? No, I read it correctly it seems, really? Confused 





=Ambient Hurricanes, hello Big smile, the links above are nice but certainly not Eclectic, they remind me of 80's disco era, Club54 Embarrassed


Disco?  I don't hear it, but I suppose, with some of the rhythms....

I posted those two because 1. They pull in elements of multiple styles and 2. They are quite different from the rest of Rush's music.  I don't think Rush is "eclectic prog" but I consider those to be eclectic tracks.
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Rush is one of those bands who is not afraid of experimenting even if it means losing fans in the process. Their music has always practically been hard to categorize, they are Hard Rock and Metal and Progressive Rock all in one. Yet they also incorporate elements of Reggae, New Wave, Synth Rock and even Alternative Rock and Pop Rock into their sound. My question to you is. Would you consider them Eclectic??? Because the term Heavy Prog makes it seem as if they are always heavy and that's not always the case.
 
Eclectic? Ok, now I too am confused here. I never thought of Rush as eclectic. Someone please help and clarify this for me because this is beyond my understanding, eclectic? No, I read it correctly it seems, really? Confused 


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