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Originally posted by 2112R 2112R wrote:

ADTOE was probably one of the best albums the band has produced throughout their career. It ranks highly with Train of Thought, Systematic Chaos, and Scenes Pt: 2. I only imagine Mangini can add to the whole musical experience that is Dream Theater! 
It was a solid album, but it wasn't exactly groundbreaking.
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Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Yeah, it's obvious the album sucks...which is why it earned the second highest number of votes for best album of the year on seaoftranquility.org...oh wait...I guess it's not obvious.  I guess some people are just sour grapes....


so we are supposed to accept any DT album as good just because DT fans online voted it to be good?
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ADTOE was a good album, but didn't bring us anything new at all.
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Originally posted by 2112R 2112R wrote:

ADTOE was probably one of the best albums the band has produced throughout their career. It ranks highly with Train of Thought, Systematic Chaos, and Scenes Pt: 2. I only imagine Mangini can add to the whole musical experience that is Dream Theater! 
No better example to show that people who have liked DT at any points in their career will never agree with one another.
When ToT, Systematic Chaos and ADToE are favorite albums for some it's clear that human brains are wired in many different ways (I concede on Scenes PT 2 which is also one of my favs if not the most, which makes it even more intriguing, how can we agree on one album as a favorite and differ so much on the others is a mystery).
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Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Yeah, it's obvious the album sucks...which is why it earned the second highest number of votes for best album of the year on seaoftranquility.org...oh wait...I guess it's not obvious.  I guess some people are just sour grapes....


so we are supposed to accept any DT album as good just because DT fans online voted it to be good?

No, but if so many people loved it, then clearly it's not obvious that it sucks. It might still suck. But it's not obvious to everybody.
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Many people loved Justin Bieber as well.


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Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

Many people loved Justin Bieber as well.

Those aren't people though. 

I've noticed Train of Thought being considered one of their best, mostly by the younger generation of fans. To me, I can understand, and that means the band succeeded in staying current with that album (even though it's almost 10 years old now). I wouldn't put it  in my DT top 5, but I enjoy it as well. Systematic Chaos though, I'm not sure. Black Clouds is better. 
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Originally posted by zeqexes zeqexes wrote:

ADTOE was a good album, but didn't bring us anything new at all.


I saw ADTOE as a culmination of all their previous work, bringing everything together into one big masterpiece album.  We didn't get any new styles or musical directions, but a combination of the best of the previous.  The instrumental playing was tighter than ever, the compositions were better than ever, the ballads amazingly good.  Because ADTOE kind of wrapped up an era in the band's existence, in my opinion, I'm hoping that the next album will feature them taking a new direction.
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Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by zeqexes zeqexes wrote:

ADTOE was a good album, but didn't bring us anything new at all.


I saw ADTOE as a culmination of all their previous work, bringing everything together into one big masterpiece album.  We didn't get any new styles or musical directions, but a combination of the best of the previous.  The instrumental playing was tighter than ever, the compositions were better than ever, the ballads amazingly good.  Because ADTOE kind of wrapped up an era in the band's existence, in my opinion, I'm hoping that the next album will feature them taking a new direction.

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Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Because it wasn't very good obviously....

Why do you insist on using such language?  Why can't you just say something like "it didn't meet my preferences" or simply "I didn't like it"?
 
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Can i make it clear  that I didn't say it was obvious that the last DT album sucked. I said it was obvious from my statement that I thought it wasn't  much cop.
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..and I truly hope the new album will be great.
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Points: 21795 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2013 at 13:58
Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Because it wasn't very good obviously....

Why do you insist on using such language?  Why can't you just say something like "it didn't meet my preferences" or simply "I didn't like it"?
 
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That's why I took a 3 month long break as well.

I look forward to the new record, I was pleasantly surprised by ADToE.
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Originally posted by HemispheresOfXanadu HemispheresOfXanadu wrote:

Originally posted by 2112R 2112R wrote:

ADTOE was probably one of the best albums the band has produced throughout their career. It ranks highly with Train of Thought, Systematic Chaos, and Scenes Pt: 2. I only imagine Mangini can add to the whole musical experience that is Dream Theater! 
It was a solid album, but it wasn't exactly groundbreaking.

Of course it is all a matter of opinion, but does something have to be groundbreaking to be one of the best? I thought ADTOE was a beautiful and well crafted combination of several influences throughout their entire discography. Sure, it was good ol' DT progressive metal, but I just felt after Black Clouds and Silver Linings that is really knocked my socks off. It is a few of a handful of albums I can easily put on repeat. 

BTW, Coheed and Cambria's Decension.... I CANNOT WAIT 
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Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Because it wasn't very good obviously....

Why do you insist on using such language?  Why can't you just say something like "it didn't meet my preferences" or simply "I didn't like it"?
 
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It's this kind of thing that explains my inactivity on the forums as of late.


That's why I took a 3 month long break as well.

I look forward to the new record, I was pleasantly surprised by ADToE.

Do you mean my obviously controversial comment or DTGfans reply?
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Points: 21795 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2013 at 14:10
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Because it wasn't very good obviously....

Why do you insist on using such language?  Why can't you just say something like "it didn't meet my preferences" or simply "I didn't like it"?
 
Wacko
 
It's this kind of thing that explains my inactivity on the forums as of late.


That's why I took a 3 month long break as well.

I look forward to the new record, I was pleasantly surprised by ADToE.

Do you mean my obviously controversial comment or DTGfans reply?


DTGfans reply. You gave an opinion. He gave some kind of... musical political correctness...?
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well it is of course impossible for any Dream Theater album to ever be anything but good so....
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Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Because it wasn't very good obviously....

Why do you insist on using such language?  Why can't you just say something like "it didn't meet my preferences" or simply "I didn't like it"?
 
Wacko
 
It's this kind of thing that explains my inactivity on the forums as of late.


That's why I took a 3 month long break as well.

I look forward to the new record, I was pleasantly surprised by ADToE.

Do you mean my obviously controversial comment or DTGfans reply?


DTGfans reply. You gave an opinion. He gave some kind of... musical political correctness...?

LOL
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Points: 1708 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2013 at 15:38
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Because it wasn't very good obviously....

Why do you insist on using such language?  Why can't you just say something like "it didn't meet my preferences" or simply "I didn't like it"?
 
Wacko
 
It's this kind of thing that explains my inactivity on the forums as of late.


That's why I took a 3 month long break as well.

I look forward to the new record, I was pleasantly surprised by ADToE.

Do you mean my obviously controversial comment or DTGfans reply?


DTGfans reply. You gave an opinion. He gave some kind of... musical political correctness...?

No, I showed how you present an opinion as opinion rather than presenting it as fact.
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