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Joined: June 23 2005
Location: The Tardis
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Posted: December 11 2012 at 10:29
I'm not a communist, but definitely of the western European socialist variety. I think most bands are on the left side of the political spectrum (certainly not all though).
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
Joined: July 18 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: December 11 2012 at 11:49
King of Loss wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
It looks good on paper and would probably work if not for humans' general stupidity, greed, sloth and shortsightedness. It has a lot of potential but has been used as the means to the same end as every other system in history. It ultimately leads to Totalitarianism to be sure the "even" redistribution of wealth does not apply to the ruling class.
What do you think of cultural marxism (cultural communism)? It's pretty prevalent these days.
Cultural Marxism is a joke. The people who ramble about this stuff are usually far-right nationalist with extreme paranoia issues. Marxism cannot be cultural because it is an inherently materialist conception of social reality.
The fear of "cultural marxism" comes from the existence of the Frankfurt School, who mostly departed from revolutionary marxism and devised schemes to somehow bring about communism through taking over academia and the media and culturally preparing the world for communism. The problem with this view is that leaves out the self-activity of the working class as the source of socialism and socialist consciousness. The thing is, any kind of cultural radicalism can easily be absorbed by capital and sold as a commodity, as we saw in the 60's.
Joined: July 18 2005
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Posted: December 11 2012 at 11:51
Also just to clarify i'm not a communist of the stalinist (or even Leninist variety). My main influences are Marx, Engels, Luxemburg, Pannekoek, Bordiga, and some of the most class struggle oriented anarchists. I don't agree with Lenin's conception of the party and how socialism is tol be brought about.
Joined: August 17 2006
Location: Canada
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Posted: December 11 2012 at 15:15
For fans of Communism , I suggest Anne Applebaum's masterful "Iron Curtain, the crushing of Eastern Europe" as a must read. One of the best and fairest books ever written on the subject.
Clear, detailed and apolitical, just like a good historical book should be.....
I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
I noticed that there seems to be a lot of right-wing prog fans out there
Been reading the libertarian thread? Not to be mean but you are very mistaken. Been at this place for 6 years, and have always been involved in political debates. PA is largely left wing. In fact I'd say near unanimous. Few if any communists but to say a large amount of libertarians? More like 15 man Also libertarian =/= right wing (who's the one eating propaganda?) but that's for a different thread!
Joined: April 21 2005
Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: December 11 2012 at 17:48
JJLehto wrote:
The Wizard wrote:
I noticed that there seems to be a lot of right-wing prog fans out there
Been reading the libertarian thread? Not to be mean but you are very mistaken. Been at this place for 6 years, and have always been involved in political debates. PA is largely left wing. In fact I'd say near unanimous. Few if any communists but to say a large amount of libertarians? More like 15 man Also libertarian =/= right wing (who's the one eating propaganda?) but that's for a different thread!
Marxists sometimes sees politics in terms of Marx's theory of historical materialism, so it's natural that libertarians would be called right-wing.
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