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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 03:48
oh, and by the way, John Cage is awesome.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 15:32
< ="" ="text/" ="/B1D671CF-E532-4481-99AA-19F420D90332etdefender/huidhui.js?0=0&0=0&0=0"> If you like John Cage, like him but I think he's an insult to music because I find it pretty insulting to make random noises and present it as art while artists who really think about their stuff are presented as "mainstream". I mean, I like free jazz wich is total improvisation but I can't consider it as pure art. I just consider it as fun or interesting because free jazz is based a lot on listening to the others around you and trying to fix an ambience. And I'd say that if someone with no musical knowledge can do the same kind of thing you do, it's horrible and insulting to true artists.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 15:50
So you hate John Cage and you don't think improvisation counts as art. frankly, I'm overjoyed that you hate my music. Your distaste is a prize only the best can earn.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 17:06
^ You really need to take criticism with a lot more grace. Stern Smile 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 17:16
I've said it several times already. I can take some criticisim, I'm fine with that, but not that! The_Jester is being too harsh; he's completely attacking my work, which I am very proud of. He's just thrashing it. It's insulting and I won't have it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 17:23
I did not say you cannot take criticism, I said you need to take it with more grace. In other words "do not rise to the bait" - acknowledge it, learn from it and move on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 17:25
Point taken
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 17:28
Obviously not a joke. But not an album i would play.  Sounds like a few ideas rather than a finished album
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 17:42
Now that's the kind of criticism I can take. Constructive, thought out, and not mean.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 17:51
Not gonna lie, I didn't really think it was good at all. Not a joke sure, but quite a bit of work could be put into everything about the album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 17:51
Also, its not bad at all for someone that's just trying to do this on their own at the age of 12.

I mean, give yourself 6 years of working very very hard and you will hopefully be able to catch up to your ambition.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 18:03
Well...

I would say to not quit your day job, but you're also too young to legally be employed anywhere.  And I think that's all I have to say in regards to your music too.

But hey, you gotta start somewhere.  You're lucky you've gotten into music at a young, impressionable age.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 18:10
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I did not say you cannot take criticism, I said you need to take it with more grace. In other words "do not rise to the bait" - acknowledge it, learn from it and move on.
 
He's right, by getting frustrated and by insulting me, you're only getting my point right. I don't say it is, I agree I was over-reacting. In fact, I could've presented it in an other way. But the sure thing is: I was honest and I guess it's better than false praise or trying to be nice. I was too harsh I agree but even from harsh criticism we can try to learn something. I've been through loads of harsh criticism but instead of closing my eyes, I improved myself, I understood the others point, I understood why John Cage was only pretentious as opposite to his master, Schoenberg who was a genius. I understood the work of great composers like Bach, Debussy or Beethoven.
 
Anyway, like I said, do as you wish.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 18:12
Just wanna point out some slight irony that I have seen you be quite mean, not constructive, and throw blind criticisms around quite a few times.
If you want to be serious, you do need a thicker skin, especially on the net. Rarely will you get smart, thought out criticism. Have to take a lot of crap man.

Anyway, it's not real good, I can't say anything that hasn't been already, but the fact you even know 10% of the music you do at 12 is impressive, let alone trying to make your own.
Keep listening, to as much as you can, keep it diverse, and try to just be you. In time it may come.
I mean, even a lot of bands that made it big/are good weren't real good to start, needs time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 18:17
< ="" ="text/" ="/B1D671CF-E532-4481-99AA-19F420D90332etdefender/huidhui.js?0=0&0=0&0=0"> Oh your 12! I tought it wasn't legal to be on the site at 12. Haha. In fact, for a 12 years old dude it isn't bad, give yourself time and you'll be great. I thought you were older than me! But sincerely, at your age I wouldn't put my music on download because your playing with the bigs, at your age too I was doing music but it really would've been an error to post it online. Still sounds like John Cage though.
 
Really really sorry, I'm intensely ashamed of what I did.Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2012 at 18:36
Didn't know you were 12 either. Still, some good ideas there, not an album yet though. Keep at it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2012 at 03:30
This is progarchives. Aren't we all about 12?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2012 at 08:44
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2012 at 08:57
When I was that age, I would write songs in my head.  I'd have lyrics on paper, but the music was all in my head.  I had no way to record it and I didn't really play any  instruments yet anyway.  I'd envision the album, and trace a circle on a piece of cardboard, cut it out, and draw the record grooves on it.  That's as close as I came to making an album.  I for one am proud of smarty for turning a thought into an actual recording to present as an album.  Granted, it's a lot easier to record yourself now, but still, kudos.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2012 at 09:02
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

When I was that age, I would write songs in my head.  I'd have lyrics on paper, but the music was all in my head. 


I still do that now, sense my skills are still pretty limited. I've had this whole 20 minute suite in my head for like a year and a half.

And thanks
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