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Topic: Madness or reasonable Posted: August 31 2012 at 13:42
what do you think, is the astronomical sums used on football players, madness and rediculness or, as reasonable as buying a toilett paper when you have no toilettpaper left, to drye your but.
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Posted: August 31 2012 at 13:50
It's madness that any society would use its resources in such a way when there are still inumerable sufferings that could be considerably eased with proper funding. That's is the madness of the community though. For the Player, and the ones paying the player it's not so ridiculous as they are both benefiting and not directly causing harm to anyone.
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Posted: August 31 2012 at 13:55
yes, i think within the bubble that is associate football, it is the lfie and it is bound to be like this and will not change as the competitions have been so involved with the tranfers, and having the best squads, but outside of football, it is pretty insane, and is making you think what is it worth paying for a person able to dribble, shoot and passing balls,
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Posted: August 31 2012 at 14:08
For a baseball or American football player it is reasonable, but for the European version of football it is pure madness.
Seriously though, I seriously think it is madness all around, but since these amounts seem to be what the market will bear than more power to both sides. I certainly don't feel sorry for the teams or team owners that complain that not enough fans support the team by buying tickets and showing up for games however. I feel bad for the common man fans who can't afford to pay for ticket or bring his family though.
Madness. I cannot understand why such amounts of money can be spent on a few spoiled, usually uneducated brats who have a talent to handle (or should I say footle) a ball. But money rules and sport is big business, whether we like it or not.
Fortunately, I care little for money and even less for football.
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Posted: September 05 2012 at 11:19
It's not a dictate passed down by some higher power. It's a flexible condition. They make a reasonable amount given the product that is a match of soccer.
The fact that these people in good conscious keep considerable portions of this money strikes me as closer to madness.
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Posted: September 05 2012 at 13:34
someone_else wrote:
Madness. I cannot understand why such amounts of money can be spent on a few spoiled, usually uneducated brats who have a talent to handle (or should I say footle) a ball. But money rules and sport is big business, whether we like it or not.
Fortunately, I care little for money and even less for football.
So you think it would be reasonable to give money to intellectuals of an elite like you?
They help other people make money, including people not directly related to the teams they play for. There is a reason why club owners decide to pay those huge amounts. I'm sure it is not for a desire to burn money.
Now if you really want to complain about high-paid people, put artists, celebrities, actors and musicians in there too. Many of the musicians you probably adore are spoiled, uneducated brats who have a talent to handle thousands of worshippers. Just like football players. But at least in the second case the results are easier to objectively measure.
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Posted: September 05 2012 at 13:42
Public figures make a lot of money for one simple reason: they provide a product enjoyed by a lot of people. An athlete playing in the Superbowl provides entertainment for tens of millions of people. Therefore, they get paid tens of millions of dollars. It doesn't matter how hard it is or how much education they have, it's the service they provide. Same goes for musicians and movie stars.
A master craftsman, no matter how skilled he is, can only make one product at a time, so he can only get paid by one person at a time, even if that one payment is a lot. There's nothing obscene or unfair about this, it's simply a matter of people getting paid based on what they produce: entertainment for millions versus entertainment for one.
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Posted: September 05 2012 at 14:07
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Public figures make a lot of money for one simple reason: they provide a product enjoyed by a lot of people. An athlete playing in the Superbowl provides entertainment for tens of millions of people. Therefore, they get paid tens of millions of dollars. It doesn't matter how hard it is or how much education they have, it's the service they provide. Same goes for musicians and movie stars.
A master craftsman, no matter how skilled he is, can only make one product at a time, so he can only get paid by one person at a time, even if that one payment is a lot. There's nothing obscene or unfair about this, it's simply a matter of people getting paid based on what they produce: entertainment for millions versus entertainment for one.
Antonio Stradivari may dispute that. While the numbers of people a "product" can entertain has a relationship to how much it is valued at, it is the rarity of the skill involved that actually commands the price ticket. If it was merely down to numbers then any knuckle-grazed gibbon could take to the field and be "entertaining", but I doubt they'd get paid anything like as handsomely.
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Posted: September 05 2012 at 14:23
Dean wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Public figures make a lot of money for one simple reason: they provide a product enjoyed by a lot of people. An athlete playing in the Superbowl provides entertainment for tens of millions of people. Therefore, they get paid tens of millions of dollars. It doesn't matter how hard it is or how much education they have, it's the service they provide. Same goes for musicians and movie stars.
A master craftsman, no matter how skilled he is, can only make one product at a time, so he can only get paid by one person at a time, even if that one payment is a lot. There's nothing obscene or unfair about this, it's simply a matter of people getting paid based on what they produce: entertainment for millions versus entertainment for one.
Antonio Stradivari may dispute that. While the numbers of people a "product" can entertain has a relationship to how much it is valued at, it is the rarity of the skill involved that actually commands the price ticket. If it was merely down to numbers then any knuckle-grazed gibbon could take to the field and be "entertaining", but I doubt they'd get paid anything like as handsomely.
Well yes. It's his skill that allows him to be entertaining. They wouldn't care about watching someone who wasn't any good. The medium is what makes the numbers much higher than they would otherwise be though.
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Posted: September 05 2012 at 17:35
i think the best example is David Backham, overall he is not a superb footballer, he not a Messi (a superb balletechnician), not a notorious striker (Ruud van Nisteleroy , Raul), a midfieadstrateger (Zidanne), but a extremely good ablitity to place a long passing, an extreme quality which nobody else matches, which makes him almost worth any price becouse of the one thing he can really, really well, to take freekicks, from anywear from 40 meters and to the goal, and 80% chace for a goalscore. this makes Becks almost worth an incredible amount of money, he is a factor that can tip it to a vicotry on one attempt by his sergicaly presice freekicks unvaluable quality, Becks right foot alone is worth 100 million euro
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exactly-- you can't be able to make a certain amount but not spend it
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, Raul), a midfieadstrateger (Zidanne), but a extremely good ablitity to place a long passing, an extreme quality which nobody else matches, which makes him almost worth any price becouse of the one thing he can really, really well, to take freekicks, from anywear from 40 meters and to the goal, and 80% chace for a goalscore. this makes Becks almost worth an incredible amount of money, he is a factor that can tip it to a vicotry on one attempt by his sergicaly presice freekicks unvaluable quality, Becks right foot alone is worth 100 million euro 
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