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The_Jester 
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 Posted: June 26 2012 at 20:02 |
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 presdoug wrote:
^I love The Missing Piece
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I find it quite good too! I don't understand why it is rated so low!
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irrelevant
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Posted: June 27 2012 at 05:07 |
The_Jester wrote:
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presdoug wrote:
^I love The Missing Piece
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I find it quite good too! I don't understand why it is rated so low!
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Agreed.
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Dami
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Posted: June 27 2012 at 10:25 |
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Can't go with Test For Echo - got to be the Rush album I have laid aside for the longest time (about ten years now).
Caress of Steel, on the other hand. Now THERE is an underrated album.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 27 2012 at 11:59 |
irrelevant wrote:
The_Jester wrote:
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presdoug wrote:
^I love The Missing Piece
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I find it quite good too! I don't understand why it is rated so low!
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Agreed. |
'Cause every once in a while these very same people opt to write reviews / give low ratings to albums they don't like / understand. Such is the fate of good albums.
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irrelevant
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Posted: June 27 2012 at 12:08 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
The_Jester wrote:
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presdoug wrote:
^I love The Missing Piece
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I find it quite good too! I don't understand why it is rated so low!
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Agreed. |
'Cause every once in a while these very same people opt to write reviews / give low ratings to albums they don't like / understand. Such is the fate of good albums. |
Or it's because they consider The Missing Piece generally a step down from the first 8 albums.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 27 2012 at 14:47 |
^ Clever point. But GG probably could have done a lot worse if they chose to, right?
geneyesontle wrote:
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
I guess Lizard by King Crimson. Yes, I know that a lot of people on this site like this album, but a lot of web reviewers (including Mark Prindle, John McFerrin, George Starostin, Evan Lublinski) consider it terrible. In fact, I bought it just because they said it was bad, and after the last chords of "Big Top" faded out, I was left dumbfounded, asking myself "Am I listening to the same record that they were describing?"
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Agree, very underrated album |
Aye aye! I love Fripp's droning notes and especially "Big Top". Almost 80% of the album is good IMO. Those guys might as well just give up on reviewing music.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - June 27 2012 at 14:50
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aerosolgrey
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Posted: July 02 2012 at 00:06 |
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Certainly, the pop turn begins here and the tracks get a bit shorter(some proggers will automatically deduct points for that) and less complex. But I would say though the turn toward pop has begun, they certainly haven't arrived yet. I just saw that AllMusic gives it a mere 2 stars. The reviewer says it is "imbalanced" and actually calls Giant For A Day more consistent.
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The_Jester
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Posted: July 02 2012 at 22:49 |
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Dayvenkirq wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
The_Jester wrote:
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presdoug wrote:
^I love The Missing Piece
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I find it quite good too! I don't understand why it is rated so low!
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Agreed. |
'Cause every once in a while these very same people opt to write reviews / give low ratings to albums they don't like / understand. Such is the fate of good albums. |
I don't like how people use ''understand'' so often when they talk about music. It is a proper term for many things but not for everything. The Missing Piece is a easy album to understand. Bitches Brew ain't easy to understand but many bands in progressive rock make easily understandable albums.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: July 03 2012 at 00:41 |
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^ Maybe what you mean is that the use of the word "understand" is sometimes not enough when trying to explain something.
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Cristi
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Posted: July 09 2012 at 14:15 |
there are too many albums that deserved better:
Cromwell - Burning Banners - 1997 Deja-Vu - Between The Leaves (1976) Minotaurus - Fly Away (1978) Pax Romana - Trace of Light - 2005 Airbag - Identity -2009 Twelfth Night - Fact And Fiction - 1982 Richard Wright - Broken China 1996 anything by Landberk
anything by Poverty's No Crime the two albums of the progressive metal band Tunnelvision (from Finland) Sieges Even - criminally underrated in my humble opinion Conception - anything by them, great progressive metal
that's all for now, I'll be back... 
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steve j
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Posted: July 09 2012 at 14:58 |
Colours by Eloy - I love that album and return to it time after time - How can it have a low score? I guess I have a weird taste, and doesn't align with any others on this forum.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:07 |
sagichim wrote:
I can add PFM's Jet Lag.
Yes it's not majestic like Per Un Amico but it's still a great album, with high quality music.
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I was just thinking this today. I've listened to it twice so far (just bought it), and it's really really nice. Might end up being my favorite PFM album before long.
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presdoug
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Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:14 |
HolyMoly wrote:
sagichim wrote:
I can add PFM's Jet Lag.
Yes it's not majestic like Per Un Amico but it's still a great album, with high quality music.
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I was just thinking this today. I've listened to it twice so far (just bought it), and it's really really nice. Might end up being my favorite PFM album before long.
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Jet Lag is one of my favorite of PFM's-great record. Also love Chocolate Kings, which sometimes gets a bum rap
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Sagichim
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Posted: July 09 2012 at 15:37 |
HolyMoly wrote:
sagichim wrote:
I can add PFM's Jet Lag.
Yes it's not majestic like Per Un Amico but it's still a great album, with high quality music.
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I was just thinking this today. I've listened to it twice so far (just bought it), and it's really really nice. Might end up being my favorite PFM album before long.
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I'm glad you like it!!
My favorite track is Meridiani, phenomenal guitar by Mussida and some killer bass line by Djivas in the second part. 
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richardh
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Posted: July 10 2012 at 01:11 |
presdoug wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
sagichim wrote:
I can add PFM's Jet Lag.
Yes it's not majestic like Per Un Amico but it's still a great album, with high quality music.
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I was just thinking this today. I've listened to it twice so far (just bought it), and it's really really nice. Might end up being my favorite PFM album before long.
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Jet Lag is one of my favorite of PFM's-great record. Also love Chocolate Kings, which sometimes gets a bum rap
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Chocolate Kings is near perfect until the last track. Out Of The Roundabout is my favourite PFM track and Harlequin not that far behind. Paper Charms starts nicely but has too much sub Roger Chapman style vocal warblings for my liking.
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Bj-1
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Posted: July 10 2012 at 05:25 |
crimson87 wrote:
Probably both records by Watchtower , I mean this is the band that invented progressive metal and have few reviews. |
Agreed!! I rank Control and Resistance higher than most progmetal albums, it's absolutely genius. Wonder where Cynic got their 'unique' fusionmetal style from then look no further. Dream Theater and Fates Warning seems to have get all the credit on the progmetal genre which is unfair, I hope Watchtower's two albums get's far more attention over the next years (if the majority can stomach Teccio's voice that is!). Also, Psychotic Waltz rarely get's mentioned here either but their two first albums are masterworks of the genre and remains unique to this day. Like WT they definitely deserve more attention, their albums are rated highly though.  Last, Vauxdvihl's 'Dimension Logic'. Check it out, metal fan or not!
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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The Mystical
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 17:24 |
Fruupp - Modern Masquerades. Sure, Fruupp worship their musical roots, but doesn't every prog band? Gong - Shamal. Sure, it isn't Daevid Allen's crazy creation that we all know and love, but it is one of the funkiest and most atmospheric pieces of prog I know.
Glass Hammer - Chronometree, Lex Rex, The Culture of Ascent and If. IMO, these four albums are masterpieces that have been dismissed due to their clear Yes and ELP influences.
Yes - Drama. IMO, Drama captures the true essence of prog.
Edited by The Mystical - January 26 2013 at 17:26
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: January 26 2013 at 23:28 |
smartpatrol wrote:
Everything DNA has done Genesis' self-titled album Test For Echo by Rush |
My first though for this subject was Counterparts.
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richardh
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Posted: January 27 2013 at 04:26 |
The Mystical wrote:
Glass Hammer - Chronometree, Lex Rex, The Culture of Ascent and If. IMO, these four albums are masterpieces that have been dismissed due to their clear Yes and ELP influences.
Yes - Drama. IMO, Drama captures the true essence of prog. |
Glass Hammer have put out a number of mighty albums but the best for me the best is The Inconsolable Secret. The first disc is perhaps standard issue retro prog although of a very high standard (Matt Mendians on drums is superb) but its the second disc thats elevates this album. Beautifull semi medieval sounding symph prog. Totally unique and great to listen to. This album got dismissed for it slightly unuusal structure which has to be the worst reason ever for marking down a prog album!
Drama is a good shout. Probably my favourite Yes album once you get past the holy triumvirat of The Yes ALbum, Fragile and CTTE. Remarkably fresh recording for the time and perhaps only marked down because no Anderson and Wakeman were present?
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: January 27 2013 at 06:14 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Those guys might as well just give up on reviewing music.
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 Why? Edit: Hm, apparently I'm responding to a months-old post. Still, my question remains.
Edited by HarbouringTheSoul - January 27 2013 at 06:18
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