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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 16:47
Helmut Koellen-You Won't See Me

       Not many people know it even exists, and it is not listed anywhere in PA, except in my posts about it!
          Since it's initial release on lp in Germany in October of 1977, it has never been re-issued on any format, and is hard as sin to find.

                    It happens to be my favorite album.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 17:39
I guess Lizard by King Crimson. Yes, I know that a lot of people on this site like this album, but a lot of web reviewers (including Mark Prindle, John McFerrin, George Starostin, Evan Lublinski) consider it terrible. In fact, I bought it just because they said it was bad, and after the last chords of "Big Top" faded out, I was left dumbfounded, asking myself "Am I listening to the same record that they were describing?" 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 17:52
The ELPowell album is rather unjustly neglected and I happen to really like ELP's Black Moon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 18:06
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

The ELPowell album is rather unjustly neglected and I happen to really like ELP's Black Moon.


I loved ELPowell.  The Score, The Miracle, Touch and Go and their interpretation of Mars were all great.

For me, I'd have to say (wearing my bullet proof vest of course) Abacab.  I don't think it's half as bad as its critics say it is.  I think the title track, Me and Sarah Jane, Dodo/Lurker are all great Genesis songs, and even the poppier stuff on it is fairly quality pop.  Another one that I think is really underrated is 90125. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 19:11
I really like Frank Zappa's Sleep Dirt. 

But, then again, Zappa is underrated anyways.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 19:14
Probably both records by Watchtower , I mean this is the band that invented progressive metal and have few reviews.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 22:47
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 23:04
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

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Charts And Maps - Dead Horse
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 23:56
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Youth Pictures Of Florence Henderson - Unnoticeable In A Tiny Town, Invisible In The City
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2012 at 00:30
Originally posted by Cthulhu42 Cthulhu42 wrote:

Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

If we're talking about PA rankings only -
 - Abbey Road!
It should be more appreciated around here. It's a masterpiece, ahead of ot's time. 

An average rating of around 4.5 isn't high enough?

Maybe it was meant as a joke.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2012 at 00:45
I can add PFM's Jet Lag.

Yes it's not majestic like Per Un Amico but it's still a great album, with high quality music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2012 at 01:51
In PA terms the one that rankles with me is ELP - Works Volume One. Only scrapes just above two stars. I have a theory that this is the ELP album that most like to take out their pent up anger on about ELP's 'bombastic' approach in general. However it is far from their most bombastic album so there is some irony in this.
Pirates is just about the most perfect symphionic prog track I've ever heard. Fanfare For The Common Man is totally unique. OK there is a load of solo music but mostly its of a very high standard. Keith Emerson's piano concerto is much praised and been performed by orchestras around the world. The Lake and Sinfield songs may not be too everyone's taste I understand but they are still interesting.Palmer's side features some strong jazz rock fusion stuff and a mighty version of Tank.
Overall it should be rating at least 3 stars imho. ELP's crash and burn really happened after this although the negative publicity springing from the orchestral tour probably precipated it. The album was still decent though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2012 at 02:01
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

In PA terms the one that rankles with me is ELP - Works Volume One. Only scrapes just above two stars. I have a theory that this is the ELP album that most like to take out their pent up anger on about ELP's 'bombastic' approach in general. However it is far from their most bombastic album so there is some irony in this.
Pirates is just about the most perfect symphionic prog track I've ever heard. Fanfare For The Common Man is totally unique. OK there is a load of solo music but mostly its of a very high standard. Keith Emerson's piano concerto is much praised and been performed by orchestras around the world. The Lake and Sinfield songs may not be too everyone's taste I understand but they are still interesting.Palmer's side features some strong jazz rock fusion stuff and a mighty version of Tank.
Overall it should be rating at least 3 stars imho. ELP's crash and burn really happened after this although the negative publicity springing from the orchestral tour probably precipated it. The album was still decent though.


Agree with pretty much everything here but would insist that Lake be held to account for a frankly wretched 20 minutes of anyone's time (apart from Hallowed Be Thy Name) Greg really let the side down here. I do like Carl's portion yet could never get overly enthusiastic about the big band arrangement of Tank. But yeah, Works Vol 1 has stood the test of time and just suffers 'false memory syndrome' amongst it's most virulent detractors. Like Topographic Oceans, it's become one of Prog's 'standard issue' scapegoats.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2012 at 02:57
wish bone ash albums (they are all underrated) 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2012 at 06:27
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

In PA terms the one that rankles with me is ELP - Works Volume One. Only scrapes just above two stars. I have a theory that this is the ELP album that most like to take out their pent up anger on about ELP's 'bombastic' approach in general. However it is far from their most bombastic album so there is some irony in this.
Pirates is just about the most perfect symphionic prog track I've ever heard. Fanfare For The Common Man is totally unique. OK there is a load of solo music but mostly its of a very high standard. Keith Emerson's piano concerto is much praised and been performed by orchestras around the world. The Lake and Sinfield songs may not be too everyone's taste I understand but they are still interesting.Palmer's side features some strong jazz rock fusion stuff and a mighty version of Tank.
Overall it should be rating at least 3 stars imho. ELP's crash and burn really happened after this although the negative publicity springing from the orchestral tour probably precipated it. The album was still decent though.
 
I totally agree with what you stated. I gave Works vol 1 a 4 stars review. Moreover , trimmed down to a 50 minute record comprised of  :Keith's side -  ELP side and a song from Carl's and Greg's side it would be a 5 star one. But then , it's ELP so you gotta take into account all the flak the band recieves.
 
 
Another , album that is vastly underrated in my opinion is St Anger from Metallica. It's great fun and a return to metal since the dreadful 90's. This record has a 1.63 rating (including my 4 stars review as a prog reviewer)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 01:03
Perhaps  
Yes, Tormato 
Gentle Giant, The Missing Piece
Emerson, Lake and Powell. same
Blue Shift', Not the Future I Ordered
Twin Age, Lialim High 
Jan Akkerman and Thijs Van Leer, Focus

 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 16:27
^I love The Missing Piece
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 16:49
Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha KingCrInuYasha wrote:

I guess Lizard by King Crimson. Yes, I know that a lot of people on this site like this album, but a lot of web reviewers (including Mark Prindle, John McFerrin, George Starostin, Evan Lublinski) consider it terrible. In fact, I bought it just because they said it was bad, and after the last chords of "Big Top" faded out, I was left dumbfounded, asking myself "Am I listening to the same record that they were describing?" 
 
Agree, very underrated album
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 16:56
For sure not the most underrated album, but i enjoy Camel's Breathless more than Rain Dances or The Snow Goose.

Echoes is one of their best songs ever, plus the album is riddled with catchy melodies and vocal lines. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2012 at 19:58
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It's incredibly highly rated, how can it be underrated?
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