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RoyFairbank ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 07 2008 Location: Somewhere Status: Offline Points: 1072 |
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Perhaps I should have said "whatever floats your boat."
I do believe that, but there are more problematic psychological issues that go into such a relationship besides the question of attraction or admiration. Though of an entirely different magnitude, i think such things as extreme goth style and leather bound skinheads are related indicators of psychological attitudes and attempts to influence social dispositions according to internal problems and deficiencies. These are indicative of certain trends of thinking derived from social experience in the course of ones life, instead of something inborn. |
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Textbook ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
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I think you're right, but it's a subconsious choice. Earlier you seemed to be suggesting that some transsexuals are literally thinking "I'm going to change my gender so people pay more attention to me" which seemed absurd. I'm skeptical about such things being inborn but I also don't think people go "FROM NOW I SHALL WISH I WAS THE OTHER GENDER". Like so many other things about us, it's just something that builds up without you even knowing about it, so it probably genuinely seems like you were born that way.
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Jim Garten ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
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Oh bloody hell - I find myself agreeing with The Doctor and Textbook... ...there's no hope for me; I should resign as an Admin immediately ![]() |
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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Can't say I would. |
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20410 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Yup... just content to be a male lesbian
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Well, I think we've pretty well established that most of the guys on here wouldn't consider dating a transsexual, how about a hermaphrodite?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Tony R ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
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If that "hermaphrodite" was Jamie Lee Curtis then sure, why not? Foreplay might be confusing though..."my god, what a choice!" |
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Jim Garten ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
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Can you buy a universal adapter on Amazon?
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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What?
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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^ about Progressive Rock Climbing
http://www.rockclimbing.com/photos/Trad/Strapadictomy_E5_6a_6559.html |
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24621 |
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So I still owe you an answer. Well, I don't think so, and not only because I have little interest in dating at all. So I vote for No. Maybe it is a mentality of what is called in my native language Wa' d'n boer nie ken, da' vrêt ie nie (proverb, translated: The peasant does not eat what he does not know). But sometimes, when push comes to shove, I may behave otherwise than I think I would.
And I may be even less interested in hermaphrodites...
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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That seems needlessly self depreciating i.e. you are clearly a discerning and sophisticated individual so why accede to the self fulfilling prophecy that your reticence to confront what might be a discomfiting phenomenon, validates such reticence? |
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RoyFairbank ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 07 2008 Location: Somewhere Status: Offline Points: 1072 |
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hermaphrodites? Biologically what are they? They have to be either woman or man, there is no genetic alternative. However, they may be biologically messed up men or women, like Siamese twins or webbed feet. Still I guess if I met a girl and she was disfigured down under (its not like she'd have a full set of male organs or something, but just a muddle), and she was born that way, then I would be understanding. Hey, nobody's perfect, least of all me (Steve Hackett Lyric?). I may sound naive but at present I can imagine a relationship without sex or babies quite easily, so I wouldn't freak if a girl I got involved with was biologically incapable of such things.
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Some children are born intersex. What they are in terms of x y chromosomes is irrelevant.
On Wiki there's an article on intersex you might find interesting. I went to the article on hermaphrodite and right above Hermaphroditewas a picture of Jimmy Wales. And now, a picture of two snails getting it on... Edited by Slartibartfast - June 22 2012 at 11:14 |
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npjnpj ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
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To start off: no, I wouldn't.
My take on the subject is: there are quite a lot of people who do not feel the least comfortable in their own biological selves. I have every sympathy for them and would support their choice for a sex-change OP, if that enables them to live a happy life which they otherwise wouldn't. For the life of me I can't see why these people should be shunned by society for making a very brave attempt to gain happiness, a process of which the result is even cannot be a certainty. Everyone has a right to happiness, why should people be made to suffer just because society says that this doesn't fit the norm? Society can be pretty sick. There are people who accept such a process and embrace such a relationship, there are others who don't feel comfortable. Personally. I fit in the second catagory. I would not feel uncomfortable having transexuals as friends. Live and let live. Edited by npjnpj - June 22 2012 at 11:59 |
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Ahh was gunna make some joke how I am really a lesbian trapped in a man's body, so that works out well, but I think I've been beaten to the punch.
And I ripped it off from Eddie Izzard... Anywho, wow IDK. I guess yes? I mean I want to say no...but you never know. If hypothetically I fell in love with a transsexual then I guess so. If you truly fall in love with someone I reckon it wouldn't really matter. Intriguing, can't say I've pondered the issue ![]() Edited by JJLehto - June 22 2012 at 13:39 |
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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I don't think so but it has nothing to do with moral reasons, I'm 45 and I never felt attracted to any being other than natural born women (by "attracted" meaning as for having some sort of couple or sexual relationship, not just friendship. For one thing I feel very attracted to my pets
![]() The older I get the less interested in sex I am (shame on me I know), but I don't see that this fact would turn things over so much as to feeling like having a TS as my couple (a TS who would not attract me sexually but with whom I get along extremely well, and because of sex not being important anymore i would choose the getting along as the most important aspect even if that meant no sex). I don't think that's ever going to happen. Never say never but at my age I'm pretty sure.
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The Doctor ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
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Must. Resist. Urge. To. Comment. |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20410 |
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All a hermaphrodite needs is to date him/herself
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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How hot looking are we talking here?.... JK
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