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Textbook
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 16:34 | ||
Cpicard: Wanting to have children can certainly be a deal-breaker. If you really want to have kids and you're seeing someone who really doesn't, or vice versa, you're almost certainly just wasting time and building up for a bigger heartbreak somewhere down the line. I don't think there's anything wrong about finding this out about someone fairly early on for this reason.
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The Doctor
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 16:37 | ||
I usually tell women early on that I have absolutely zero interest in having children (except maybe with a nice garlic sauce and some baby carrots).
BTW, I was not blaming you for broaching the subject, simply pointing out that it could all go wrong. I've seen it many times here. Hey, I've been a part of that process from time to time. |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Textbook
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 16:39 | ||
Getting out of bed can go wrong etc
I did consider doing a "What's the most offensive word in the English language?" poll. Now that could've gone wrong.
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CPicard
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 16:43 | ||
You don't get it. |
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The Doctor
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 16:46 | ||
I think "could've" may be understating the chances a bit. But that would have been a fun half a page before the admins shut it down.
Anyway, to answer your original question, I don't know. I've never been in that kind of situation and to be honest with myself, I do not know exactly how I would react if presented with that situation. I would like to think I'm broad-minded. On the other hand, I like even my natural born women unaltered (no cosmetic surgery, etc.). The point is currently moot though as my girlfriend for some strange reason does not approve of me dating other women (whether they were born women or not). Go figure. |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Zombywoof
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 16:49 | ||
I'm not here to spew any hate ... I have no hatred for anyone based on gender preference, however I like real, straight women. There's nothing ignorant about that. I just prefer natural beauty ... I don't even like women to wear makeup.
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Textbook
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 16:57 | ||
Zomby: Actually, I'm the same. In fact there's a point where a woman becomes too attractive and sort of porn star looking where it turns me off, like they try too hard to look great, spend too much time on it so it, emphasise looks too much. I hate the cosmetic industry too.
The counter-argument is that being born male but wanting to be percieved as female, a TS has a legitimate reason to put a huge effort into their appearance because otherwise they won't live the life they want if people visually identify them as another gender. I ended up marrying a genetic woman who never wears make-up, but I was willing to take a few detours along the way to see what I could see ;)
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The Doctor
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 17:01 | ||
I agree with this sentiment completely. Too much makeup, facelifts, boob jobs, etc. are big turn-offs for me. |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 17:08 | ||
Me too. The sole idea of dating a woman who was once a man, would turn me off completely. But that's me, I respect other person's choice. Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - June 21 2012 at 17:08 |
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smartpatrol
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 17:16 | ||
It depends how much we like eachother. But It kinda creeps me out, to be honest. But I haven't ever dated someone and probobly won't for a long time, so I still have a long time to descide on such matters.
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Zombywoof
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 17:21 | ||
Yeah, same here. Natural beauty trumps all. Imperfection is perfection for me. |
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RoyFairbank
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 17:49 | ||
Yes that's right studio audience, the contradiction was in the "its not biology, but it is." Identity is a social construction the little dresses and makeup girls wear is a social construction. for a guy, wanting to be the abstract ideal of a "girl" is a social construction These things don't exist in genes. Sexual preference, perhaps does, but that doesn't involve SOCIAL IDENTITY. There are gay animals, they don't dress up as the opposite gender and try to pass themselves up as the ideal of the opposite gender. They are regular chromosome-gendered goats, chimpanzees, etc. humping the same gendered animal. The identity games don't enter into it, and it doesn't for a good deal (the majority?) of gay humans as well. Edited by RoyFairbank - June 21 2012 at 17:57 |
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 17:55 | ||
How would a wild animal dress up as the opposite gender? Aren't both genders of any species of wild animal generally naked? |
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RoyFairbank
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 17:58 | ||
It can be reduced to behavior, I was being a bit rhetorical. They don't become the other gender, start doing things the other gender does. |
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 18:26 | ||
Wow....
You bring the gene card? But yeah you obviously know a lot of transgendered people that you base your theories on. I can tell. I knew there was a reason I normally stay away from these types of threads, but thanks for reminding me. I'm out. Oh and thanks for editing my original post, so it looks like I am somewhat demented. Beautiful touch. Edited by Guldbamsen - June 21 2012 at 18:45 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 18:44 | ||
I'd suspect the surgery has gotten better over the years, but no matter how skilled the surgeon you can't make 8000 erotogenic nerve endings out of 3500. |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Catcher10
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 18:44 | ||
No need to read more for me......This
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Textbook
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 18:57 | ||
Slarti: You clearly know some TS people.
Roy: You clearly don't.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 19:39 | ||
I don't know any actually. I find the subject interesting. I find human sexuality interesting in all its weird and wonderful variety. I used to have a book called The Encyclopedia Of Unusual Sex Practices. The flood got it. It's still in print though. We're talking really strange things like blowing up the scrotum all the way to what's considered normal these days - oral sex.
Encyclopedia of Unusual Sex PracticesAmazon has the first few pages. One of the first entries is Acousticophilia. Oh I see they have the glossary in the sample pages as well. Go there if you dare. Edited by Slartibartfast - June 21 2012 at 19:43 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Textbook
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
Posted: June 21 2012 at 20:10 | ||
Well what I meant and should have said if I was being careful is that you've read something about it.
I'm actually quite interested in unusual sexual practises. *cue hilarious jokes* Not because they turn me on, but for the exact opposite reason- I have no idea at all why these things are done and so they fascinate me because I would like to understand humanity. For example, adult babies. Some people like to dress up like infants and soil their diapers, drink bottles etc, while another adult role-plays a caregiver who spanks them etc. From my POV this is completely insane and not even a little bit sexy. I wouldn't want to take part in it if I was paid. And yet there apparently is a group of people sizable enough to make this a known thing in society, with a little industry that runs websites, produces video, sells adult baby clothing and equipment etc Are such people simply perverted? Or do I lack understanding of something? It's probably the former but that still leaves us wondering how/why people acquire such a perversion. People like to say sexuality is innate but that has always been something of a get-out-of-jail-free card for homosexuals and homosexuals only. We don't allow pedophiles or necrophiliacs or zoophliacs to say it, and I'm pretty sure someone saying "I was born an adult baby" would be laughed off the stage. I think the question of how such things develop is much more complicated than "they're born that way".
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