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Joren

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 19:28

1001 degrees centigrades is fantastic! But MDK stays the best, I think!

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 19:40

Only problem I have with Magma, is remembering the song titles

I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 21:47

me too

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Posted: May 25 2005 at 04:26

Me too, but I've been practising a lot these past months, and in fact I'm able to actually memorize the "lyrics" and sing-along to many parts from MDK, it's quite funny, surely a recommendable thing to do

I feel there is a big leap from the 2 first Magma albums to MDK, and for me it's really hard to tell which album I like the best, the more "jazzy" style of the two first, or the dramatic operatic feel of MDK. They are almost equally great, but where the two first albums (the debut & 1001 degrees centigrades) perhaps each are a 4.999 star, MDK is a 5 star. Magma must truly be the best progressive band of all time (imo).

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Posted: May 25 2005 at 05:15

ummagumma08 wrote:

I feel there is a big leap from the 2 first Magma albums to MDK, and for me it's really hard to tell which album I like the best, the more "jazzy" style of the two first, or the dramatic operatic feel of MDK. They are almost equally great, but where the two first albums (the debut & 1001 degrees centigrades) perhaps each are a 4.999 star, MDK is a 5 star. Magma must truly be the best progressive band of all time (imo).

I've been a big fan for over 25 years now. Even on these boards they're a bit of a minority interest, but it's nice to know that there are other Zeuhl heads out there.

IMO the studio album which captures Magma best is Kontarkhosz, which has elements of the earlier, jazzy Magma mixed in with the trademark style of MDK. Live - Hhai also features a stunning version of Kontarkhosz, and is probably the best place for newbies to start.

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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

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Posted: May 25 2005 at 06:26

The only Zeuhl I know is Magma.

As a side discussion.

Which other Zeuhl artists/bands are equally likeble. top 3 should suffice for the comming months

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Posted: June 10 2005 at 16:16

It's amazing. Over the last month I have done a complete 180, and have changed my opinion on Magma. It's not all that bad. It does need some serious adjustment time though.

I've been listening to Hhai (Live), MDK, and 1001 Degrees C, they are all good. I can't tell if I really like them, or if I am just fascinated by them. It is just so f*cking strange! Never heard anything like it. Similarly, I have also started to like some of Univers Zero's output, especially Ceux Du Dehors (1981). Very captivating album once you adjust.

Still haven't been able to appreciate Henry Cow.

I still don't hold any of this stuff in as high regard as the better symphonic stuff, it gets a little repetitive and un-emotional, but once you adjust, It's not bad!

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Posted: June 10 2005 at 17:35

NetsNJFan wrote:

It's amazing. Over the last month I have done a complete 180, and have changed my opinion on Magma. It's not all that bad. It does need some serious adjustment time though.

I've been listening to Hhai (Live), MDK, and 1001 Degrees C, they are all good. I can't tell if I really like them, or if I am just fascinated by them. It is just so f*cking strange! Never heard anything like it. Similarly, I have also started to like some of Univers Zero's output, especially Ceux Des Hors (1983). Very captivating album once you adjust.

Still haven't been able to appreciate Henry Cow.

I still don't hold any of this stuff in as high regard as the better symphonic stuff, it gets a little repetitive, but once you adjust, It's not bad!

I'm glad to hear that

Give it a few more months and Magma will be in your top list!

That's how it started with me too: First the fascination, then you really start loving it!

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Posted: June 10 2005 at 18:27

Have you tried Art Bears (i.e., Henry Cow writing tunes

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Posted: June 10 2005 at 19:48

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Have you tried Art Bears (i.e., Henry Cow writing tunes

I planned on it, but then i found out that witch Dagmar Krause was their vocalist. I think she has the worst voice in prog.

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Posted: June 10 2005 at 20:11

NetsNJFan wrote:

It's amazing. Over the last month I have done a complete 180, and have changed my opinion on Magma. It's not all that bad. It does need some serious adjustment time though.

I've been listening to Hhai (Live), MDK, and 1001 Degrees C, they are all good. I can't tell if I really like them, or if I am just fascinated by them. It is just so f*cking strange! Never heard anything like it. Similarly, I have also started to like some of Univers Zero's output, especially Ceux Des Hors (1983). Very captivating album once you adjust.

Still haven't been able to appreciate Henry Cow.

I still don't hold any of this stuff in as high regard as the better symphonic stuff, it gets a little repetitive, but once you adjust, It's not bad!

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Posted: September 28 2005 at 04:57

Syzygy wrote:

I completely agree.

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Posted: September 28 2005 at 05:11

mirco wrote:

I happen to download a bunch of canterbury and zheul songs from the archives, for make a compilation: Magma, National health, Gong, Picchio, Egg, Samla, Soft machine and Shub Niggurath. Very challenging to get from the beginning, but awesome stuff. Magma, very operatic: it brings to my mind memories of Carmina Burana.

Good point about "Carmina Burana", because Magma are definitely influenced by Carl Orff.

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Posted: September 28 2005 at 05:31

ummagumma08 wrote:

HORTZ FUR DEHN STEHKEN WEST
HORTZ ZI WEHR DUNT DA HERTZ
HORTZ DA FELT DOS FUNKEHR
HORTZ ZEBEHN DE GEUSTAAH
HORTZ WIRT TLAIT UTS MITLAIT
HORTZ WIRT TLAIT UTS MITLAIT
HORTZ WIRT TLAIT UTS MITLAIT
HORTZ WIRT TLAIT UTS MITLAIT
HORTZ FUR DEHN STEHKEN WEST
HORTZ DA FELT DOS FUNKEHR
HORTZ ZEBEHN DE GEUSTAAH
HORTZ WLASIK KOBAIA (twice)

Fuh mehn fuhl ehndoh litaah , ehndoh litaah, ehndoh litaah (4 times)
Dowisehndo siwehn do loi, siwehn do soi, iuwahn sin doh (4 times)
Iss iss wihl iss wowosehndo (4 times)
Dowisehndo siwehn do loi, siwehn do soi, iuwahn sin doh (twice)
Iss iss wihl iss wowosehndo, iss iss wihl iss wiwidondai (twice)
Wiwidondai (8 times)

owerïsi wehlo woseweh, owerisi wehlo woseweh (16 times)
Fuh mehn fuhl ehndoh litaah , ehndoh litaah, ehndoh litaah (16 times)
Fuh mehn fuhl ehndoh litaah (4 times)

Ioss owehri, oh oh rehbidoi (4 times)

eweleweh soi soi, eweleweh loi (4 times)
Ist iih dowehriso (8 times)
Ehl ehl ehl ehl ehl Wlasik KOBAIA (8 times)

Can anyone translate this?

Also ... anyone here speak Vogon?

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Posted: September 28 2005 at 07:38

Snow Dog wrote:

I'm listening to "Da Zeuhl Wortz Mekanik" by Magma that I downloaded from the site!

Whats that all about then?

Me too. I haven't been able to get into it at all.

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Posted: September 28 2005 at 07:46

I love Magma, probably because I came across them at a time when I "needed something different". They really struck a chord with the whole jazz opera schtick.

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Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster.

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Posted: September 28 2005 at 08:02

The first Magma album I heard was "Üdü Wüdü", and I loved it immediately.

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Posted: September 28 2005 at 08:55

Personnaly, I really think their concept of new language is absolutely stupid !! Why did they created that ?? It make the music three times weakest ! I don' like their music either...maybe some good points, but not a lot. No.....I really don't like his band !

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Posted: September 28 2005 at 09:13

OldFatherThames wrote:

Personnaly, I really think their concept of new language is absolutely stupid !! Why did they created that ?? It make the music three times weakest ! I don' like their music either...maybe some good points, but not a lot. No.....I really don't like his band !

OK, I'll bite. What is so stupid about it? Or is it because you don't understand the 'words'?

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Posted: September 28 2005 at 09:30

Doesburger wrote:

OK, I'll bite. What is so stupid about it? Or is it because you don't understand the 'words'?

I reverse the question...what do you like about it ? I just find it to be a stupid idea to speak in a non sense langage. Why ?? Is it bring something to the music ? Like someone said before, it's like a science fiction concept, and I absolutely hate science fiction !