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Smurph ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 11 2012 Location: Columbus&NYC Status: Offline Points: 3167 |
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WTF. carbohydrates do make you fat. I'm a fatass, take it from me. I have eaten a lot of carbs in my life.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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^word!
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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What I meant is that doesn't have HDL Cholesterol The problem is that you eat the bacon fried, and that increases even more the LDL (Remember, even vegetable oil saturates when fried). That's the problem that USA has on children obesity, they eat a lot of LDL cholesterol saturated food (Burgers, bacon fried eggs, etc). Iván |
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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Parents let their children eat that stuff as early as age 2!!!! Children should not be be allowed to eat anything like that until they're in first grade or something, and even then, it should be very moderate. I don't care if it's homemade for from MACdonalds.
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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Do you? It isn't necessary. A huge amount of people grill it. If I do fry I use a scant amount of oil and then I use kitchen tissue to drain the excess.
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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I know most restaurants around here cook their bacon in the oven. Don't know about fast food places though.
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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My daughter ate fatback before she was a year old. ![]() |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Heating unsaturated fats at very high temperatures does change their molecular structure - what they do not do is become saturated - to saturate fat you need to add more hydrogen to the chain of carbon atoms - heat alone does not do this.
Eating high cholesterol foods does not cause obesity and does not result in high cholesterol levels. Eating too much anything causes obesity, obesity is caused by excessive calorie consumption - whether that is saturated or unsaturated fat, protein, sugars, starches - whatever, eat too many calories and you body tries to store the excess as fat. Obesity causes many problems, high cholesterol levels is one of them, diabetes is another - the causal direction is that obesity induces high cholesterol, not that high cholesterol causes obesity.
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dtguitarfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
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I remember when I was in college I worked at this snack shop that had burgers and philly cheesesteaks and such. And every single night I'd see these guys from the cross country team come in and eat a 2nd dinner that would rival most people's first dinners, and they were as skinny as rails. |
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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I just meant on a regular basis. |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Well, lets see
8 grams of bacon (One strip) has 9 Mg of cholesterol..OK This means 1,12 Mgms of BAD cholesterol for each gram of bacon OK? With 10 strips of bacon, you have eaten your 1/3 day ration of cholesterol...OK? This: ![]() or this: ![]() Have at least 10 times the level of bad cholesterol for a week That's what I said. Now, you are right, the vegetable oil doesn't saturate when fried, but if it reaches the smoke point, is also very harmful. Iván |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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and I said:
That sandwich contains 1 lb (453.6g) of bacon [that is the actual value, not a random guess at the number of strips] - which is 2 times your daily allowance, not 10 times your weekly allowance.
OK?
Yes- as I said, the molecular structure changes, the chemical formula does not.
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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A heated argument about bacon? Must be Prog Archives.
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Tapfret ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8602 |
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Cheese, like all dairy products do contain carbohydrates. Mind you the protein/carb ratio is high. Remember milk's purpose is to feed the offspring of whatever creature it comes from and requires some sort of sugar. Meat, except liver and processed meats, are carb free. (muscle=protein and fat) |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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I stand corrected - cheese is low-carb, not zero-carb - but in relation to a philly cheesesteaks the percentage carbs added by the cheese is miniscule compared to the bun it's wrapped in.
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Tapfret ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8602 |
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^What is not miniscule is my sudden desire for a philly cheesesteak.
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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I'm so hungry right now.
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Triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
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But he read it on the internet! |
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